Chapter 293: The Third Possibility
Liu Yu also took it to heart about Qi Guogong's admonition, thinking that it would be okay to avoid trouble in the future.
"What Guogong said is that I have written it down. There are no rules, there is no circle, since His Majesty has set up a separate function to deal with these Xiyi, and the matter of negotiating with these Xiyi is under the control of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Didn't Confucius also say, do what you want from your heart. ”
Qi Guogong showed a smile on his face, when he left, Liu Yu still had too much sharpness, and there were too many edges and corners on his body.
At that time, I was young, so I was nothing. When I asked Liu Yu to pay attention to some rules just now, I thought that Liu Yu would mumble something like "there are too many constraints, and it's too difficult to get things done", but he didn't want to be otherwise, but honestly agreed.
"I know that you have always regarded Westerners as great enemies, and so have your Majesty, in my opinion. Even though the founding of this dynasty was so difficult, there is one thing that I have to 'thank' the Dongyu back then. Western affairs, the DPRK and China will pay attention. ”
A word of thanks may sound like a counterword, but it is actually a true statement.
The events of the Jiashen year have made many people from the temple to the rivers and lakes have a strong sense of distress about external threats.
It's a bit like the founding of the Han Dynasty, and when it came up, it was bullied by the Huns, and the siege of Baideng was cultivated, and when Emperor Wu was in power, he was crazy to expand the border, pass through the Western Regions, and open the southwest.
Dashun also has a bit of such a meaning, and the difference is not small. When Houjin raised his army, he was very inconspicuous, but he almost sank the world, which is also the reason why Li Gan can listen to Liu Yu's "disaster in the East China Sea": The Dutch seem to be small, who knows if it will be another Houjin in the future?
Who can guarantee that those small countries that seem to have no threat at this time will not become the end of the Ming Dynasty in the future?
Taking history as a mirror, some truth has finally been learned at this time.
Qi Guogong knew that Liu Yu wanted to accomplish something, and saying these words was to comfort Liu Yu and tell him that the imperial court had set up a foreign ministry, although the powers and responsibilities were unclear at this time, but with the history of the late Ming Dynasty as a reference, the vigilance against Westerners was still high enough.
"Normal, Westerners are also people, there is some truth, it can be used here, and Westerners can also use it there. Before, it was nothing more than that apart from you, there was no one who knew Westerners very well. Those missionaries have their own hearts, and those who are not of our race will have different hearts. ”
"I heard that at the beginning of the military reform, His Majesty asked you about the new military art of war, and you said that everything you have learned in your life has been compiled into a book, and you have no selfishness."
"You're very clever about it. This is a matter of communication and negotiation with Westerners, and you should be just as smart. His Majesty needs a talent who is superior to others, not a genius who has to be him. Do you know the difference? ”
Thinking that his family will be more deeply tied to Liu Yu in the future, although some things have not yet been explained, when he speaks, he naturally has the tone of some elders.
is better than others, he has to be, the difference between the two, Liu Yu understands.
Qi Guogong also said it very clearly, and he hurriedly said: "The national peace of mind, I understand the difference." The more people who know and the more people who know, the more Your Majesty will be at ease with me. ”
"It just so happens that Guogong is not going to preside over the translation? It also happens that I need to translate the brief history and culture of these Western countries as a guideline for future translations. The affairs of the Western countries are written in more detail. ”
"I'm just a middle-aged person, it's nothing more than a building near the water, and I know some Western things before others. As long as more people know about the affairs of Western countries, how there are advantages and disadvantages, presumably the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will not lack talents. ”
When Qi Guogong saw him on the road, he smiled and said, "That's right." Don't talk about you, just me. I can occupy this high position, not because I can excel, but because I have the merits of my ancestors. The top three and the leaders of the Wude Palace who were born in the imperial examination are all from thousands of troops and horses, and it is difficult for us to compare with these who rely on the merits of our ancestors. ”
"You're smart. What you can think of, others can think of. They can't imagine that it's not because you're smarter than them, it's just because you know about Western things before they do. I've been able to handle some things since I was an adult, and it's not that I'm very smart, but it's just that I've been in contact with my family since I was a child. ”
Liu Yu said yes, but said in his heart that although this makes a lot of sense, it falls on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and that is not necessarily the case.
It's not because you're smart or not, it's because of the way you think.
Knowing that the history and culture of Western countries is only the beginning, knowing what primitive accumulation is and what colonial trade is, and knowing how to stand from the perspective of China, which is different from the Celestial Empire, can we make some decisions.
It's just that he can't say this, and he also understands that his background is determined, and the more he shares, the more the emperor trusts him.
As long as you share many things completely and don't hide your personal interests, the emperor will be more reused if he is less worried.
There is no need for Qi Guogong to say this, Tian Zhenyi said it before he went to Weihai to "train at a small station".
It's okay to train soldiers, but it must be able to reproduce, and others can draw gourds according to the method, and they can also practice. Otherwise, the Western Regions must be, the more the Qingzhou army can fight, the more likely Liu Yu is to be a marquis squatting in the capital, and there is no possibility of doing big things.
At that time, Liu Yu thought it was true, and he couldn't imagine that father and daughter were the same tune.
Although the affairs of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are not comparable to military training, the emperor is determined to do this, not only hoping that the diplomacy with Western countries will continue, but also not wanting Liu Yu to become the only one in the imperial court who can deal with Westerners.
The establishment of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs can be regarded as Dashun bypassing the category of "the world" and beginning to try to deal with the outside world.
I am not afraid of bureaucratization, but I am afraid that there is no opportunity for bureaucratization. Anyway, it's a worse world now, and no one is more efficient than anyone else.
Moreover, Liu Yu also felt that it was really not a way to do it as before, and with more and more foreign exchanges, if he took care of it himself, he would really become a "foreign minister and naval minister". Instead of waiting for the emperor to feel guilty, it is better to let go now.
"Guogong, there is still something to be handed over to you. In Batavia, Nanyang, a strong man came to tell the story of the oppression of the Chinese in Bacheng. This person is also a character who has the heart to do great things. But this matter needs to be considered in the long run, and the people of the Celestial Empire in Eba City have to rely on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to solve it. ”
"As the saying goes, those who are good at fighting have no great merits, and those who are good at planning have no great reputation. It's best to press this before the Dutch do it. Don't wait for the Dutch to learn from the Spaniards in Luzon and then send a letter of condemnation. ”
Talking about Lian Huaiguan with Qi Guogong, he talked about the situation in Batavia in general.
Qi Guogong should be one of the few people in the court who knows that he will do something to Nanyang in the future, and he is a person who has been immersed in the dirtiest place in the world for decades, such as the court, and he knows what Liu Yu means when he hears it.
After listening, Qi Guogong couldn't help laughing.
"You have found a lot of work for my Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Otherwise, this matter will either be under the control of the Fujian Jiedu envoy or the government of Li. Now that you've got your hands on it, I'm ready to do it. ”
"But it's also a hot thing. If I don't take over, if the Dutch really start to slaughter, the government will probably say that the overall situation is the most important, and the people who go to sea are thousands of miles away and are traitors, and the Dutch will not be able to complain about them. ”
"But if I take over as the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, if I really don't control the situation and the Dutch start to slaughter, I will be referred to a book, saying that I ignore the people of the Celestial Empire. But I want to control the situation, and even advocate a war, but I am afraid that some people will say that it is not worth spending millions of dollars and food for the overseas remnants, and it is better to use it for river work and exemption. ”
"If you want to get corn from the fire, I can only restrain my hands and feet. After all, you've only considered one possibility. ”
"But, keep normal, do you think of another possibility? Let me ask you, if the Dutch send back all the overseas people of the Celestial Empire in Java, will the Celestial Empire accept it? ”
This question stopped Liu Yu at once.
He thinks according to the inertia of history, and thinks that there are only two possibilities: massacres and expulsion to Ambon, Banda, Ceylon.
But as soon as Qi Guogong reminded him, he suddenly came to his senses.
As Dashun began to get involved in official negotiations with them, the Dutch would probably be sent back to Fujian if they really felt that those who grew sugar cane were a burden.
If the Dutch did so, what to do?
After taking a breath of cool air and thinking about it, Qi Guogong smiled and said, "You can't accept it." Fujian, with many mountains and few lands, is difficult to feed too many people, so it is only when it goes to sea. If they all come back, they will have no land and no livelihood, and they will cause chaos. ”
"Besides, if you run Nanyang in the future, the hearts of non-my race will be different, and there must be immigrants."
"There are overseas people in Java, and there is Dutch oppression, and when I wait, I will relieve the people from hanging upside down, and the king will support them; If not, if you capture Java and force immigrants from Fujian, it will become a tyrannical government, and the flesh and blood will be separated. ”
"In the long run, if the Dutch want to send them back, we will not accept it."
Hearing Qi Guogong's attitude, Liu Yu was slightly relieved, nodded and said, "Extremely!" Extremely! If those people don't come back, we will go to relieve the people from hanging upside down. After coming back, not to mention making trouble, and migrating in the future, that's another way to say. Batavia and other ghost places are to go to Ili and Liaodong in the Western Regions, if the people are forcibly relocated, there are all kinds of complaints, and I don't know how many families and wives are separated, what about such places? ”
Qi Guogong smiled: "So I said, you gave me a hot trouble." But this matter can be settled, and you need to give me a letter. How long will it take for Weihai's navy to have seventy percent confidence in defeating the Dutch in the South Seas? ”
This time, Qi Guogong didn't ask why, nor why, but with an attitude of complete trust, he only hoped that Liu Yu would give a specific time.
Liu Yu thought for a moment and stretched out three fingers.
"Three years."
"Three years? That's easy to say. ”
Hearing the time of three years, Qi Guogong was also relieved.
"I don't dare to say more, I can still grind it through three years. When I negotiated with the Rakshasas, you fought in Heilongjiang, and I talked nonsense in the Selenga River, and I also talked with the Rakshasas for a year. Then that's fine. ”
"Now let's take a look. There are three possibilities for the Dutch. ”
"One, massacre."
"Second, move to Ambon and Ceylon."
"Third, repatriate to Fujian."
"Yes, we must ensure that the first possibility will not happen, and the third possibility will depend on diplomacy, and try to strive for the second possibility, right?"