Chapter 461, the first confrontation between the old and new forces
"Your Majesty, there are more and more factories, workshops, etc. in our capital, and the number of workers is also increasing, which also means that more people will come to our capital, and the housing problem in the capital will be a big problem in the future."
In the Sun City community, Liu Jin took Emperor Hongzhi, Liu Jian, Li Dongyang, Xie Qian, and Zhang Mao to walk around and visit the community very casually.
The people present are the people at the center of the power of the entire Ming Dynasty, although they said that they came out to see this Sun City community, but naturally they will also talk about national affairs.
While Liu Jin took them to visit, he also explained to them the current situation inside and outside the capital.
"This is indeed a problem, the capital was not so congested before, but now it has become very congested, and there are many temporary shantytowns outside the capital, especially around some large factories, the number of shantytowns is very large, and a large number of people live."
After Li Dongyang listened, he also nodded and said.
He had always been aware of this matter, and he had noticed it a long time ago.
"Because a large number of people have flowed into our capital, it has also brought all kinds of problems, such as public security problems, and now the security of our capital is relatively poor, all kinds of crimes often appear, and gangs are rampant, dividing large and small spheres of influence and so on."
Liu Jin nodded slightly, and then said again.
Hearing the words of Liu Jin and Li Dongyang, Emperor Hongzhi frowned slightly, he is a good emperor, and he is also an emperor who cares about the people of Li.
"How can these problems be solved?"
After thinking about it, Emperor Hongji asked.
"The scope and size of the capital are already limited and cannot be changed, which means that no matter how much it is renovated, the population it can carry is always limited."
"Therefore, it is necessary to develop a lot of outside the city and build more places like Sun City outside the city, so as to better meet the people's demand for housing."
"As for the issue of public order, my suggestion is to crack down hard, severely crack down on local ruffians and gangsters, gang forces, and so on, these ruffians, gang forces, and so on are rampant and domineering, bullying men and women, and almost all kinds of evil, if we do not crack down hard, the social atmosphere and the people's customs will be damaged."
This problem mentioned by Liu Jin is very common, and it is also the same in later generations, with the rise of industry, with the rapid development of a city, all kinds of problems will also appear.
Generally at this time, if the imperial court is strong enough to crack down on all kinds of forces, then a civilized and harmonious city can be created.
If the power of the imperial court is not enough to effectively fight against all kinds of forces, then there will be Shanghai Tang in later movies, and there will be gangsters in South America who are so powerful that they are not afraid of the government.
"However, if we vigorously develop outside the capital, without the protection of the city wall, once the foreign enemy invades in the future, won't these ordinary people be left to the mercy of others?"
Xie Qian thought for a while and asked.
"Since ancient times, all cities have been protected by city walls, and without the protection of city walls, once an accident occurs, the casualties will be very heavy."
"The population of the capital is increasing, which is very unfavorable for the capital, and the construction of ministers should strictly restrict the number of people who come to Beijing, strictly implement the household service system, and strictly prohibit the private circulation of the people."
"In this way, these outsiders in the capital will naturally return to their places of origin, and the security and other problems in the capital will naturally be solved."
Xie Qian is a southerner, in fact, he can be regarded as the representative of Southern Shilin in the imperial court, and his position is naturally on the side of Southern Shilin.
Historically, Ma Wensheng, the former secretary of the Ministry of War, once suggested that Emperor Hongzhi levy commercial taxes because of the lack of military spending, which was strongly opposed by Xie Qian, and the matter was over.
It can be seen from here that he is actually the representative of the big merchants, big landlords, and gentry in the south of the Yangtze River, who opposes the imposition of commercial taxes, and also opposes the many changes in the current Beijing-Tianjin area.
Hearing Xie Jin's words, Emperor Hongzhi and Zhu Houzhao couldn't help frowning slightly.
If the household service system is strictly enforced, then all these factories and workshops in the Beijing-Tianjin area will die, because there will be no one to recruit people, and there will be no one to work at all.
Now these new capitalists in the Beijing-Tianjin area are already active, demanding that the imperial court abolish the household service system and allow the common people to come and go freely, so as to attract more people to work in the Beijing-Tianjin area.
The demand for labor is simply too great.
The number and scale of various factories and workshops are increasing and growing, and because of the restrictions of the household service system, only people from the surrounding areas of Beijing and Tianjin will come to work.
This has hindered the development of capitalism and caused discontent among the emerging capitalists.
Emperor Hongzhi and the crown prince Zhu Houzhao are the biggest capitalists, and there are too many industries under their command, too much, if the household service system is strictly enforced, then the industry under their command will go bankrupt, and then there will be no silver in vain into their pockets.
All this will go back to a few years ago, the days when there was no money, Emperor Hongzhi had enough, and it was very uncomfortable to want to be scolded back for everything.
"Xie Gong's words are wrong, the so-called easy time shifts, in our Beijing and Tianjin area, because major factories and workshops have sprung up like mushrooms after a rain, and they continue to develop rapidly, so that more people can earn more silver."
"A few years ago, hiring a person to do things in the capital was already very high for one tael of silver a month, but now, in the Beijing-Tianjin area, it is impossible to take care of people by hiring a young man without two taels of silver, even if it is a female worker, working in a textile factory, she can have an income of almost two taels of silver a month."
"This is enough to show that the emergence of a large number of factories and workshops has brought more benefits to the people of Daming."
"Therefore, the imperial court should not only not restrict the movement and circulation of the common people, but also abolish the household servitude system, so that the common people can freely come and go and engage in all walks of life."
Zhang Mao stood up first, he is also an emerging big capitalist, if the household service system is strictly enforced, he, a big capitalist, will suffer, what will happen to the many industries under his command?
Originally, there was already a labor shortage in the capital, and the slaves from the grassland have now been sold for dozens of taels of silver, which is enough to show the demand of the emerging capitalists for labor.
They all wanted the imperial court to abolish the household service system, so that not only people from the surrounding areas of Beijing and Tianjin would come to work, but also people from Shanxi, Henan, Shandong and other places could come to work on a large scale, and they capitalists would not have to worry about finding workers.
And once there is a large influx of people, the wage can be lowered, which is more conducive to reducing costs and improving the competitiveness of their products.
Now there is no way, because of the shortage of labor, everyone has to take the initiative to process money to retain these workers, otherwise, capital is cannibalistic, counting on these capitalists to take the initiative to improve the treatment of workers? Dream on.
"Your Majesty, you must not abolish the household service system, this is the foundation of my Ming Dynasty, since ancient times, there is a strict demarcation between agriculture and industry, just like the way of the monarch and the minister, the way of the father and son, once the household service system is abolished, this is not the outline of chaos, the society is shaken~"
When Xie Qian heard this, he immediately became anxious, and hurriedly objected.
Liu Jin on the side looked at it silently and coldly, Xie Qian and Zhang Mao each represented their own interest classes, and Xie Qian represented the interests of these traditional big landlords, big businessmen, and gentry.
Naturally, what they hoped for was everything that had been, the monarch and the minister, the father and the son, everything was under their control, and they were also the beneficiaries of the old system.
As for Zhang Mao, he represents the interests of the new capitalists, who desperately want to break some traditional shackles so that they can be more conducive to the development of capitalism.
Of course, none of them knew what capitalism was, but they all proceeded from the perspective of their own interests and tried their best to come up with policies that were beneficial to their own interests.
"Is this a struggle between the emerging capitalists of the Ming Dynasty and the traditional forces?"
Liu Jin couldn't help but smile.
That's right, Liu Jin is indeed laughing.
Xie Qian and Zhang Mao are both ministers of the imperial court, pillars of the country, and things have reached their level, what does this mean?
This shows that the capitalism of the Ming Dynasty has also developed to a certain extent and has a certain strength, so it will fight with the traditional old forces here at the highest level.
If the development of power is not enough, there is definitely no way to reach the highest level.
Liu Jin's mind could not help but recall the history of the development of capitalism in Europe, which had gone through an extremely long process.
First, the germ of capitalism in the Age of Discovery, relying on the bloody plundering of the colonies for primitive capital accumulation, and after the advent of the steam engine, capitalism can be regarded as a real rapid development, and finally the war between capitalism and traditional feudal forces broke out in European countries, and then determined the status of capitalism.
Now the situation is a little different on the side of the Ming Dynasty, because of the emergence of Liu Jin, Liu Jin also knew from the beginning that he wanted to transform the largest traditional feudal power into a new capitalist.
Whether it is the emperor or Zhang Mao, these noble groups, which are the largest feudal forces, are now successfully transformed into new big capitalists, which is conducive to the development of capitalism.
This is also the reason why, in a very short time, the forces of capitalism have been able to confront traditional forces at the highest level.
Now the confrontation between Xie Qian and Zhang Mao has only just begun.