Section 21 Question of weapons
"What kind of weapon to choose depends first of all on the environment we are in and the enemy we are facing." Xi Yaya paused, probably in order to organize the language, "There are three main opponents of ours: the Han armed forces with a large number of improvised firearms + cold weapons mixed infantry as the main force, representing the Ming Dynasty army, including Li Chuang and other late Ming Dynasty rogues, their main force is basically from the defective deserters of the Ming army, and the equipment and tactics are basically the same; the Manchu army, with cavalry as the main force and a small number of firearms; Chinese and foreign pirates who are extremely active off the coast of China, mainly with all kinds of firearms.
"Not only are we small in number, but we are basically people with no actual combat experience, and our psychological quality may not be as strong as these ancients, so our weapons must adhere to two points:
"With a large enough range, you can fire at as far as possible to suppress the enemy's charge, and it can also be used to hit the enemy's artillery gunners and commanders. The 8-pounder and 12-pounder field guns of the Napoleonic Wars had an effective range of only 900 meters, and in the 17th century they were even lower, estimated at a maximum of 400 meters. The rifle should have at least this range.
"Our first two opponents will use cavalry as a surprise attack in battle, so the weapon must have the ability to instantly and massively deliver a large amount of ammunition to suppress the cavalry onslaught. It's better to use a machine gun, but it doesn't seem possible for the time being. After listening to the introduction just now, I'm afraid that the North American rudder will not be able to get machine guns or automatic rifles. â
"So why doesn't SKS qualify? I think it all fits: 400 meters effective range, 10 rounds magazine, maximum rate of fire 40 rounds per minute. The performance is not outstanding, but fortunately, the structure is simple, and everyone has basically touched it. â
"I don't have a good impression of the 7.62*39 M43 bullet," Xi Yaya smiled hesitantly, "This rifle bullet uses a corrosive primer, which is very corrosive to the body barrel, and it must be wiped and maintained frequently." Hainan itself has a harsh environment, and most of the people here have no experience in the military and do not know much about guns, so it is very likely that the guns will rust into a piece because they do not clean their guns frequently. It didn't take long for it to be scrapped. â
"Can you still be a soldier if you don't even wipe a gun? This reason is too untenable. â
Xi Yaya ignored the opposing voices: "Corrosive primers are also very corrosive to cartridge casings. It has a great impact on bullet reloading. â
"It's something to think about. Reloading was the only way we replenished ammunition in our early days. â
"The weapons of the Warsaw Pact system are based on what is good and sufficient. In other words, they have the ability to make weapons better, but they are first and foremost cost-conscious, and from this point of view, a long-lasting, but excessively resource-consuming force is not in line with their military principles. â
"In this time and space, of course, it doesn't matter, if the gun is broken, it will be replaced, and we have no way to replenish new modern weapons, so the full life of the weapon must be considered."
"Do you mean that the service life of the SKS is too short?"
"Yes, not only SKS, but also weapons like AK." He stretched his legs and feet, "In addition, the SKS is a standard semi-automatic rifle. It is semi-automatic as standard. "That is, it can't be turned into an automatic rifle." â
The people at the venue were stunned for a moment, and suddenly understood, and those who were dissatisfied with his speech also frowned.
Yes, there are no automatic weapons in the civilian gun market in the United States, but those civilian AK\AR semi-automatic rifles made on the basis of military automatic rifles can actually be converted into fully automatic weapons. Of course, U.S. law strictly prohibits this, and the offender is a felony. But the FBI can't control Daming!
AK47, M-16, these words that everyone is too familiar to be familiar with are suddenly flying in the conference room, and everyone fantasizes about brandishing an AK or M16.
"Then buy civilian AKs in large quantities!" Shi Yuanren also became excited, "This gun has been on the market a lot since 2004, and the goods are quite sufficient, and our mechanical ability will not be a problem to change the gun." â
"weishenme wants AK, I want M16!"
"You know what, that's called AR15."
"If you change it, it will become an M16."
"Hehe, I'm still saying that: I'm not optimistic about the M43 bomb." Xi Yaya was very satisfied with the effect of his words, "Similarly, I don't recommend using small-caliber rifles like the M16. It's not just a matter of stopping action, it's about power at maximum range. In addition, small-caliber rifle cartridges also have higher requirements for the production of jishu. I recommend a semi-automatic rifle with 7.62mm NATO rounds. Civilian versions of rifles such as the M-14 and FN-FAL. Directly changing to an automatic rifle does not need to be urgently equipped with machine guns. â
âMīŧ14īŧ I heard that the accuracy is very good, but the power is excessive, and the weight is also large. â
"Isn't this gun a little complicated? It seems that the guns of the Americans are complex in structure and difficult to maintain. â
The controversy over the gun lasted for half an hour, and Shi Yuanren was suffocated, seeing that such an argument had no result, he proposed to talk to Xiao Rui directly on the Internet, after all, Xiao Rui knows more about the gun market in the United States, and he has seen a lot of strange things in civilian guns, unlike the domestic killing, he knows that AR15 is the M16 semi-automatic civilian version.
As a result, Xiaorui proposed another gun on the Internet: the Saiga-308 rifle, which no one had heard of. This is a Russian-made civilian semi-automatic rifle that uses 7.62mm NATO rounds.
AKs that can shoot 5.56 bullets are not rare, and even NORINCO has exported five or six punches with 5.56 bullets. But this semi-automatic rifle of AK blood is a weapon that uses the full power of the American imperialist rifle cartridge. This is relatively rare.
Saiga-308 is a civilian sporting and hunting rifle developed by the Izhevsk plant, the main manufacturer of Kalashnikov firearms, specifically for international AK rifle enthusiasts. Outwardly, it retains almost all the features of the AK rifle, and the internal parts are basically from the AKM and AK74. The muzzle adopts a muzzle flame suppressor specially designed for the SVDS sniper rifle, and the side rails can be equipped with various Soviet-made and Russian-made optical sights. Saiga-308 has a good shooting accuracy: 10 rounds of bullets at a distance of 100m, and the radius of the dispersion circle is only 40~45mm. The weapon is also more reliable than the regular AK. In response to the problem of excessive energy of 7.62mm NATO bullets, a special cushion is installed behind the butt, which has a better effect, and ordinary adult men who shoot long guns for the first time are no problem.
"This gun has good performance, enough power, and a long effective range. THE EMPTY GUN WEIGHS 3.6KG AND COMES STANDARD WITH AN 8-ROUND MAGAZINE, BUT CAN ALSO BE EQUIPPED WITH A 20-ROUND MAGAZINE AND A HIGH-CAPACITY DRUM. Shi Yuanren relayed Xiaorui's proposal, "The price is not expensive, the unit price is 500 US dollars, and if you buy it in large quantities, you can also get a discount." Of course, you can also buy the M1A - that is, the civilian version of the M-14, which is much more expensive, and the market price is more than $1,000. â
"So Rui suggested we choose Saiga-308?"
He didn't say that, "What kind of person is Shi Yuanren, he has long been a workplace elite who can't keep his hands." This kind of weapon selection is a major matter of the country, and the right choice is just a reasonable suggestion, if you don't choose well and get into trouble in the future, the mistake will be all yours, and even if the leaders can understand, the masses will not understand. "Just a piece of advice to everyone. How to decide depends on the Executive Committee. â
This is tantamount to kicking the ball back to the Executive Committee. There is a lot of discussion here, and the commission will not be decided. In contrast to the passionate discussions among the amateurs, no one in the sports group was interested in the issue at all, except for one seat. In their opinion, five and a half is enough, so why pull out so many inexplicable things.
"Bolt-action rifles don't work?" Mr. Wen remembered that when he was traveling in the United States, he went to see a gun exhibition in the past, where there were many antique rifles of all kinds, such as Mauser, Springfield, Mosin-Nagan...... The whole nine yards. And the price is very cheap. Such a rifle with a long bayonet, black high hats, and soldiers in red and yellow woolen uniforms marched slowly in a horizontal row, and that was a spectacle.
However, he knew that it was impossible to cross the crowd to do this thing, so he didn't mention this little hobby.
The 7.62 NATO bomb VS the 7.62 Warsaw Pact bomb still did not lead to any results at this meeting. Zuihou has come up with six different options:
Adopt SKS semi-automatic.
M1A (M-14) semi-automatic
Saiga-308 was adopted
The civil semi-automatic version of AK47/74 or M16 is adopted, and the fully automatic version is changed later. Whether it is AK or M16 is another opinion.
A high-power long-range rifle and a medium-power rifle or a small-caliber rifle are used.
Bolt-action rifles are used
Obviously, every option has its supporters, and each has its advantages and disadvantages. Just as the discussion began to move in the direction of unfriendly haode, Wen Deji promptly turned the topic to personal self-defense weapons.
The personal self-defense plan originally prepared by the sports group for everyone was a dagger, but at this time, with the golden finger of the North American rudder, it is inevitable to have a luxury. Pistols are very popular in the American civilian market, and there are many models to choose from. However, for the sake of simplifying equipment, facilitating repairs and interchangeable parts, only one pistol can be selected.
There is no objection to using the 9mm Balabrum round, after all, it is a mainstream pistol ammunition, and as for the pistol itself, most people prefer the M9 - because it is handsome and well-known, and the heroic appearance of the little pony is unforgettable for this generation. M1911 is also supported, but it is a little heavier, and it does not please most petty bourgeoisie. As for PPK, S&W revolver, and Glock, there are people cheering.
Due to the ease of use, lightness, and ease of maintenance, the Executive Committee originally preferred the S&W's 9mm revolver, which had all the disadvantages of the revolver: air leakage, short range, low ammunition, and slow reloading. However, from the point of view of the Executive Committee, this thing is also used for self-defense within twenty or thirty meters anyway, and there is no need for too outstanding performance, the key is simple and durable.
The problem is that the sports team obviously doesn't like this weapon, the PLA has never had a tradition of using revolvers, everyone is not comfortable with this thing, and the shape of the revolver is obviously not cool enough, and the sight of this gun reminds most of the crossing people of the Royal Hong Kong Police who are poor in firepower. The consequence of the zuihou balance is that both M9 and S&W's M337 are included in the procurement list.