142 The old king laughed at you for being too young
Everyone has nothing to say about Mr. Zhao's explanation, and obviously everyone thinks this topic is quite interesting.
Nowadays, everyone is showing more and more interest in the era that they are about to travel to, especially when it comes to the daily life of that era, which always leads to a variety of discussions.
According to Zhu Beiguo, a recognized historical expert in this traveling group, salt is a very special commodity, and from the perspective of the government's control of salt, it can reflect the general attitude and management mode of commerce in the society of that era.
"The official salt system of the Ming Dynasty is tight and loose, tight at the top and loose at the bottom, and the official salt system of the Qing Dynasty is tight and tight, and the upper and lower orders are prohibited, and it is really a new atmosphere in the new dynasty."
For this reason, Zhu Beiguo commented lightly to the partners around him.
"But for the people, this new dynasty and new atmosphere are not necessarily all good things."
At this time, Xu Zhi interjected next to him and made a comment.
"What do you mean by that?"
A friend next to him asked him, Xu Zhi smiled indifferently and said:
"However, if the government intervenes in all market and commercial matters, it will inevitably make a mess, and this visible hand often interferes with the invisible hand to the extent that it is unable to regulate the market economy normally, so the more powerful the government is in this regard, the more the market balance will be destroyed."
For Xu Zhi's explanation, many people nodded frequently after hearing it, especially the group of people who were older and had been in society for a while, obviously deeply touched by this.
"Xu Zhi is right, and this is also a fact that has been proven countless times in human history, for business prosperity, the intervention of the visible hand always has more advantages than disadvantages......"
"Yes, even if you are cautious and careful out of fairness, at most it will have a short-term effect, which will definitely be harmful in the long run."
"By analogy, it is obvious that the strength of the Qing Dynasty is definitely not as weak as the weakness of the Ming Dynasty."
Zhu Beiguo finally summed up and sighed, but did not say anything more.
At this time, high school students are also talking about this topic:
"I heard that our Daming's salt is also **, Jianghuai salt merchants understand it, it's rich and rivals the country!"
"It's still the Ming Dynasty, according to the time error, it may be which Qing Dynasty!"
"I think it's the same regardless of the Ming Dynasty and the Qing Dynasty, the key is that we can sell our products to the mainland?"
"yes, that's a huge market!"
"I agree with Mr. Zhao's opinion, we can just engage in salt for ourselves, and the salt chemical industry also needs it, and we can't afford to transport salt all the way to sell it."
"Selling glass mirrors and sugar to the Qing Dynasty is profitable, business, of course, efficiency is the first, selling salt is better than selling sugar."
"In fact, it is better to sell sugar than glass! The Fujin Gege in the Qing Dynasty definitely love our glass mirrors and glassware. ”
It was the handsome guy Ren Ke who said this, but as soon as this remark came out, it actually caused another group of people to refute:
"What Daqing? It's Tatar Qing! Haven't you heard a saying, clear wear does not rebel, chrysanthemum set electric drill! ”
"I didn't expect you Ren Ke to be like this! Still not a fan of Da Ming anymore? Want to do business with the Tartars? ”
"It's true that he is indeed a fan of Daming, but strictly speaking, that product is a fan of Daming's sister."
"No, it's necessary to build the Qing Dynasty, but it's not contradictory to going to the mainland to sell things, right?"
Ren Ke hurriedly argued.
"I don't care about the Ming Dynasty or the Qing Dynasty, as long as I am willing to do business with us and open the market, I can be friends."
It was Wei Dongli who said this, and then the partner next to him said:
"You listened to what Brother Zhu said just now, the law is strict and there are many restrictions on business, how can it be open to you to do business? It's still good, although it is strict, but in fact it is very loose, whether rich or poor, so that everyone has their own way of living. ”
"Yes, yes! This is a fact, I don't believe you know the difference between the two dynasties with reference to the sea ban, may I ask you are a businessman, are you willing to do it with that side? ”
"Of course it's Da Ming!"
"So the Qing wear does not rebel, the chrysanthemum ......"
"Chrysanthemum, you big-headed ghost! Hey, a bunch of stupid roe deer, why can't they wake up their innocent children! ”
Boss Luo, who was sitting not far away, sighed in a low voice to Lao Wang next to him.
"Boss Luo, what do you say?"
A few high school students next to him had pointed ears and immediately listened to it.
"It means you can't see through it!"
Luo Zhengyi responded to the young people with a smile, at this time Wang Dashi shook his head slightly, suddenly smiled, patted the table with both hands in turns, and said to the group of young people who were still confused:
"I said, you young people, why can't you see through it! If you want me to say, you really traveled back to the Qing Dynasty...... Hey, Dr. Zhu, do you think it should be the emperor who is in power? ”
"There is a high probability that it is the Kangxi Dynasty, the early years of Kangxi......"
"Okay, Kangxi Dynasty, right? I think that if we really travel to the Qing Dynasty, it will be more beneficial to us than to travel to the Ming Dynasty! Because, it's easier to do business with the Qing Dynasty than with the Ming Dynasty, believe it or not?! As for the rebellion and the like, that's not a topic I'm discussing right now, and I'll talk about it later......"
Wang Dashi said indifferently, his voice was not loud, but it was very penetrating, and immediately attracted the attention of the surroundings.
"Elder Wang, why do you always think that the Qing Dynasty is more beneficial to us than the Ming Dynasty?"
"yes, why?"
"It is clear that the market of Daming is much more open than that of Daqing, Uncle Wang!"
"Yes, the Qing Dynasty had a strict ban on the sea, and by the way, there was also a vicious order to move the sea! But in the Ming Dynasty, from the people to the government, everyone wanted to share a piece of the sea trade, although there are many unspoken rules, but no matter what, it is actually a basically open market. ”
"Yes, the late Ming Dynasty, which was very prosperous in business, is recognized in history, but you always say that it is better to do business with such a Ming Dynasty than to do business with the Qing Dynasty?!"
"You guys...... Too young, too simple! I'll tell you, it's simple! Sit down, and listen to me......"
At this time, Lao Wang's tone became very resolute:
"First of all! Based on my limited historical knowledge, the Ming Dynasty did only have a sea ban in name, but in fact it has long been abolished, especially since the late Ming Dynasty after Wanli. It's the period we are likely to travel to. What you just said is right, at that time, from the government to the people, the sea ban was indeed a dead letter, right, Dr. Zhu? ”
"Mr. Wang, don't be a big doctor, just call me Xiao Zhu......"
"Okay, okay, I just can't change my habits for a while...... Xiao Zhu, you are a doctor of history, you should know a truth better: for the market monopolized by the government, whoever gets the government will get the market, right? ”
"That's the truth......
"Whoever catches the government will grab the money bag, right?"
"That's right, Mr. Wang...... You always say......"
Zhu Beiguo pondered for a moment, then nodded, as if he understood what Lao Wang meant, and at this time Lao Wang had already stood up and raised his voice and said to everyone:
"Alright, everyone! We all know that the Ming Dynasty, especially the late Ming Dynasty, was actually a place where some imperial power fell, and the officialdom of the Ming Dynasty was actually a place where various "parties" entangled with each other and checked and balanced each other, and from the court to the locality, the forces of all parties were intertwined, intertwined and complex.
In other words, it is actually very difficult for you to get the entire Ming Dynasty government, or you can't do it at all! Because of the complexity, because of the variety, but also because of the fact that the imperial power has fallen! So the end result is---- no matter how much you spend, you can't completely handle all the officialdom of the Ming Dynasty, right, Dr. Xiaozhu? ”
"Yes, this is almost impossible, because no one in the officialdom of the Ming Dynasty can cover the sky with one hand, including people like Wei Zhongxian, don't look at the Donglin Party members who were treated by Wei Zhongxian, but they only need a handwritten letter from the emperor, and Wei Jiu,000 years old has to obediently hand over power, but the emperor completely uses the party members to clear the stream and do the literati There is no way, it can be said that one thing is one thing! In fact, the officialdom of the Ming Dynasty has a system of potential mutual constraints......"
"Xiao Zhu, do you understand why I just said that it is easier to do business with Daqing than with Daming?"
"I see, I've figured it out......"
Zhu Beiguo lowered his head and thought about it and said.