Li Po was very willing to chat with He Chou.

He Chou is different from the literati of this year, his main business is science and engineering, so he will not come out with a few words from time to time like others that Li Po can't understand.

And He Chou is old, he has seen too many things, and the elderly always like to fall into memories, so when chatting with He Chou, you can always hear some previous stories.

For example, now, after He Chou lost his breath, he talked to Li Po about the past when he and Liu Long and Yu Wenkai supervised the construction of Daxing City, and the main framework of Daxing City, which took one year and seven months.

The speed is so fast, even Yu Wenkai himself praised again and again, hearing this, Li Po smiled secretly, if it is true that He Chou supervised the construction of Luoyang City, then when he supervised the construction of Daxing City, He Chou estimated that he was just fighting with others.

But people are so old, they have to allow them to brag or something.

One year and seven months, a big city like Chang'an was built, that is, the construction started in the second year of the emperor's reign, and it was completed in the third year of the emperor's reign, and then Emperor Wen Yang Jian moved into the new city with hundreds of civil and military officials and many people.

Such a speed should indeed be admired, how much labor was used during the period, and how many people died, it is conceivable that Li Po can finally know why Yang Guang likes to build a city so much, heredity.

For Yu Wenkai, He Chou is highly respected, even if He Chou is very conceited in his achievements, but he still feels that compared with Yu Wenkai, he is really inferior.

It's a pity that such a craftsman met a faint monarch like Yang Guang, and ended up depressed, so that He Chou himself almost died in the rebellion.

Thinking of this, He Chou is angry, and he has to nag for a while every time.

Li Po deeply felt the same way, Yu Wenkai is a pity, he may not be able to produce such a person for hundreds of years, it is much rarer than famous generals and ministers.

Talking about it, before I knew it, more than an hour passed, the lights were lit in the hall, the wine had been warmed several times, and the tea had been boiled for a long time.

Li Po drank a lot of water, and when he moved, his stomach began to rattle, and he had already decided in his heart that Lao Hetou's house would come less in the future......

He Chou was very interested in talking, and he was still talking, but the topic changed a few times, and he was finally pulled back by Old Man He.

He began to talk about some things when Yang insisted on being the emperor, to the effect that it was logical for Yang Jian to be the emperor, and there were not many objections to the choice of the country name, but Yang Jian was still widely accepted, and even asked his opinion about He Chou, before he set the country name.

At that time, he He Chou was a free rider.

Listening to him complain, Li Po smiled silently, his posture has already been put out, if you were still the free rider of the year, you would definitely not be able to say this, otherwise I will definitely let you go around without eating.

But you're so old, it's right for us to let you go, old man, don't be too serious.

When He Chou said almost, Li Pocai said: "Emperor Wen's eloquence is obvious to all, and we also admire it...... There is a matter of indecision today, you always think about it, if Emperor Wen is on the throne, how to deal with it? ”

He Chou was a little tired, but when he heard this, he still lifted his spirits, he liked this feeling of being noticed, and he was still complaining in his heart, you just ask me, what else is Emperor Wen, if he is entrusted with a dream again, he will not have to fight with Emperor Yao? Will you be able to stand it?

"Your Majesty, please speak."

"Li Yuan has only been in charge of Kansai for six or seven years, not to mention how many official positions he has sealed, let's just say that the titles he has rewarded him have not even been counted.

Let me tell you this, Li Yuan's own subordinates, as well as his sons' subordinates, as long as they welcome him back to Guanxi as emperor, almost all of them have been knighted.

When I led my troops south, there was a county order on the road, and he dared to ask me for a reward, and roughly said that Li Yuan had knighted him, and I couldn't be worse as the king of Han......"

Speaking of this, Li Po took a sip of wine and said with a smile: "I am also an enemy of Li Yuan, but to be honest, Li Yuan is not bad in my opinion, at least much stronger than Wang Shichong and Li Mi, and he is also quite disciplined in politics, if he is not always my enemy, I want to be friends with Tang Gong." ”

After speaking, he shook his head a few times hypocritically, and made a rather emotional look, if Li Yuanquan knew about this, he would definitely have to deal with this guy.

"But on top of this knighthood, Li Yuan did really badly...... You also know that there are only a few titles under my rule, and the so-called rare things are expensive, and it should be good to be noble, otherwise everyone has them, what else is it shown, what is expensive?

Every time I think of this, it is quite annoying, what the pseudo-king did, I have the heart to deny it, I am afraid of committing public anger, if I admit it, when I reward my merits, I will also have a big title, otherwise it will be difficult to convince the public, in this way, will not it be a trend of adding fuel to the fire?

You always say, what if Emperor Wen and I change places? ”

He Chou is terrible, there is no good way to do this kind of thing, recognizing the title and official position of the previous dynasty is the first choice to appease people's hearts, unless you don't want to go over, you will carry out a large-scale purge and install cronies.

Such a big blood exchange will inevitably provoke a fierce resistance, and there is no need to think about the consequences, most of them will come to the jade and burn, and no one should think about it.

When Emperor Wen came, he did not hesitate, when he took over the throne, he performed the ritual of Zen concession, the mildest form of dynastic change, and there was not much bloodshed between the political transitions.

That is to say, most of the inheritance of the Northern Zhou Dynasty was accepted by the former Sui, and at the same time, it also took over the capital of unifying the world, otherwise, there would be an internal strife in Kansai, and it was not sure what the world would look like now.

Mature politicians know how valuable a smooth transition is, and that includes official titles, you can replace some people, you can remove some people's titles, but you can't engage in large-scale purges, that will cause panic.

Li Po's fear of offending the anger of the public is actually what he means, the title that people have worked so hard to get is ready to pass it on to their descendants, and if you say that you don't admit it, you won't admit it, and what will be aroused will inevitably be deep resentment.

This is very bad for a regime that is in a period of expansion.

Looking at He Chou's frowning, Li Po couldn't be happy in his heart, look, find something for you, you can't solve it, don't find something for you, let you be more leisurely, you are still crying, you are really an old naughty.

This is just one of the problems Li Po is facing, and if he throws out two or three more pieces, He Chou will not have to sleep tonight, which can also show how much pressure Li Po is facing.

But there is no way, the world has been in chaos for so long, it is naturally full of problems, entering Jinyang, it is necessary to solve the problem of merging states, entering Chang'an, it is natural to solve the problem of Kansai, and when the world is unified, then he is the real Son of Heaven, and what he wants to solve is the problem of the world.

After thinking about it for a long time, He Chou finally said with a bitter face: "Such a dilemma needs to be delayed, and the king must not be in a hurry." ”

In fact, this is the benefit of the old ministers, they are definitely not as radical as young people, they always want to find a more stable way, slow is slow, but most of the time the rulers have to slow down.

People who have an idea in their heads, and another idea in their eyes, had better stay away.

Li Po nodded and smiled, "You don't have to be embarrassed when you are old, I just said in passing, the matter of rewarding merit is not far away, and it is almost inevitable to be knighted in a big way, but the title can be awarded, and there is no way to do it, we can't afford it."

So Su Yuanzai and the others came up with an idea, only those people I personally rewarded can receive the real seal, and the rest are all false titles, and even Lu Mi doesn't have to think about them. ”

Speaking of this, Li Po himself laughed, this must be a helpless move to put the cart before the horse, in fact, Li Yuan has already started to do this, otherwise Li Tang would not be able to hold on to it now.

He Chou also smiled when he heard it, "This is really not a new method, Emperor Wen also had it when he was there, but although there are many titles in that meeting, there are many origins, and it is not so flooding, Li Dalang is really a lot of evil." ”

In fact, they all understand that the proliferation of officials is not Li Yuan's business alone, Xiao Miao, Dou Jiande, and even Li Liang of Xiliang, Liang Shidu and others, and which one of them does not have a bunch of national princes under his rule?

Therefore, this problem has become no longer a problem, because the root of the problem cannot be solved, so it can only be delayed, and for Li Po, there is no need to consider it for the time being, so what is the problem?

He Chou glanced at Li Po a few times, and finally realized that this was the king using something else to gag him, but it was not good to say anything more, for fear that Li Po would throw something again, if he still squeaked and whined, it would inevitably give people the appearance that you only lost your temper, but you couldn't solve the problem at all, then you would lose your old face.

So He Chou finally stopped being stubborn, and reported his own things normally, there were a lot of things, but they were trivial, for Li Po, it was not a big deal, but it was all entrusted to He Chou.

He was just thinking about sending a few capable assistants to He Chou, so as not to exhaust the old man, as for what everyone wears in the court in the future, what etiquette they keep, what utensils they use, what music they play, what doctors they watch, and so on, he is not very interested.

He only asked He Chou, is the cook in the palace also under the care of Taichang Temple?

He Chou told this guy who didn't learn and didn't know how to tell him with certainty that Taichang Temple didn't care about this, it was a matter of Menxia Province during the Kaihuang period, and now he also knows that it seems to be under the management of the Shangshi Bureau of the palace province, but it is also under the jurisdiction of Menxia Province, but it has been changed from direct jurisdiction to indirect jurisdiction.

In other words, the status of the Shangshi Bureau has declined, maybe Li Yuan has put too many beasts in the banquet, and he is afraid that someone will poison him, so he found the palace supervisor to take charge of it, and added a procedure to it.

Li Po just asked in passing, after all, he is still very particular about food, those cooks in the palace are all women, there is no need to doubt their skills, they are all selected people, and that skill is not comparable to Jinyang's famous chefs.