Hearing Emperor Hongzhi's question, Liu Jian and Li Dongyang also pondered.

There is no doubt that the abolition of the military household system, the introduction of a compulsory military service system, the opening of military academies, and the establishment of a strong army are obviously not in the interests of the civilian clique.

For the civilian clique, they still prefer the current system, and it doesn't matter if the military power is in the hands of the emperor, in fact, nothing else has changed.

Under the current system, it is destined that it will be difficult for these military generals and noble groups to rise again, and they will never be able to compete with these civilian groups.

However, the abolition of the military household system, the implementation of the compulsory military service system, and the establishment of military academies are completely different.

According to the theory that the ass determines the head, the vested interests of the civilian bureaucracy should instinctively oppose this new system, because the new system will create destabilizing factors and have an impact on their vested interests.

Moreover, the proposal to open a military academy made the two of them instinctively feel very scared, the military generals and honors group have not been able to play with these civilian groups, and a very important point is that there are very few knowledgeable people in the military generals and honorable groups, and many of them are big and coarse, unlike these people from the civilian group, who all came out of the imperial examination.

In addition, schools are used for inheritance, and Confucianism can have today's status, in the final analysis, it still attaches importance to education and inheritance, generation after generation, endlessly.

On the other hand, the inheritance of military generals is generally passed down from father to son, from family to family, and all kinds of military books and the like have not been passed down at all, and are only in the hands of a very small number of people.

Therefore, many times, the generals of the past dynasties are basically wild people, belonging to the kind of generals who continue to grow up in actual combat, rather than relying on inheritance from generation to generation to cultivate generals.

The opening of a military academy now means that this military academy will be able to inherit and train generals on a large scale in the future, and it will naturally and slowly be able to compete with the civilian clique, which will definitely seriously damage the interests of the civilian clique.

"Your Majesty, the minister thinks that it is inappropriate to abolish the military household system~"

After pondering for a long time, Liu Jian slowly spoke, and then he added: "The military household system is the foundation of my Ming military system, and once it is hastily abolished, it will inevitably cause violent fluctuations. ”

"In addition, the implementation of the compulsory military service system, it is very likely that it will be difficult to recruit enough soldiers, there is a saying among the people, good iron does not hit nails, good men should not be soldiers, under the implementation of the compulsory military service system, the people are very likely to evade military service, unwilling to go to military service."

"Second, under the compulsory military service system, in terms of four years of service, a young and strong labor force may not even be able to live if there is a lack of labor force at home."

"Third, the implementation of the compulsory military service system will inevitably cost more money than the current military household system, and the treasury of our imperial court has always been very empty, and it is simply impossible to support hundreds of thousands of troops completely out of production."

Liu Jian expressed his opposition, and he was also very sharp and saw some problems in the compulsory military service system at once.

After listening to this, Emperor Hongzhi also nodded slightly, this compulsory military service system is indeed very good, but if these problems are not solved, it will definitely not be implemented.

"Zhang Mao, what do you say?"

Emperor Hongzhi looked at Zhang Mao, this restructuring plan was proposed by Zhang Mao, so it was naturally better for Zhang Mao to say it.

"The military household system must be abolished, and I think Liu Gong should know very well that the military household system has been eroded, and he is completely unable to shoulder the responsibility of protecting his family and defending the country, and he has lost his combat capability."

"If we don't abolish the military household system, no matter how we change it, our Ming army will always be like this, even if we win the grassland people this time, in a few years, they will still continue to go south."

"So we must take advantage of this time to build a strong army out of the military system."

Zhang Mao thought for a while and said slowly.

"As for the problems that Liu Gong said, we can also find a way to solve them."

"The first problem is that we can't recruit enough soldiers, because we implement a compulsory military service system, so being a soldier is an obligation, recruiting soldiers from all over the country, even if someone evades military service, we can still recruit enough soldiers, and we have a hard set of how many soldiers must be recruited in each county and every prefecture."

"Of course, the reason why everyone is reluctant to become a soldier is because under the current military system, our military households in Daming are very poor, they can't eat, they can't wear warm clothes, and they have no social status, so naturally everyone doesn't want to be a soldier."

"But during the Qin Dynasty, the Qin Dynasty implemented a military merit system, and everyone competed to be a soldier, and even a soldier had to squeeze his head to do it."

"The reason for this, presumably Liu Gong and Li Gong are also clear, in the final analysis, it is still a matter of interests."

"Implement the compulsory military service system, you only need to be a soldier for four years, and you will not be a soldier for generations, nor you need to be a soldier for a lifetime, plus we can give appropriate subsidies, such as four years as a soldier, a total of twenty taels of silver subsidies."

"In addition, if someone becomes a soldier, then they can come with taxes and conscription for free for four or five years, and after they are discharged from the army, they can also go to the local yamen to catch fast and so on."

"I think that after this set of policies, it will never be said that people cannot be recruited, and for those who are soldiers, their lives at home can also be guaranteed, and they can also have arrangements after they are discharged from the army."

"One last question about expenses."

Zhang Mao had already discussed this compulsory military service system with Liu Jin for a long time in advance, and all aspects of the content were discussed clearly, so in the face of Liu Jian's question, he answered fluently, and he almost didn't need to know how to answer.

"The implementation of the military household system, the imperial court can indeed save a lot of expenses, but to turn a strong army into a peasant, the expenses of the imperial court are reduced, but in the same way, the combat power of my Ming army is also weakened, so that the grassland people have repeatedly gone south to plunder, wantonly burning, killing and looting."

"With the implementation of the compulsory military service system, there is no doubt that the expenditure will definitely increase dramatically, and judging from the current situation in our Daming treasury, it will definitely be difficult to maintain."

When it comes to military spending, Zhang Mao did not object, but gave a simple admission that under the new military system, the military expenditure of the Ming court will increase a lot.

"If you want to build a strong army, you must be willing to spend money to invest in it, and there will be a return on the pay."

"So in terms of expenses, the minister thinks that you still need to bear your majesty's internal funds."

Speaking of this, Zhang Mao said helplessly.

The finances of the Ming court are really very tight, the treasury can be poor and starve to death rats, counting on the Ming court to increase military spending, it is even more difficult, even if it can increase some, it is also sprinkled with water, and it has no effect at all.

So after thinking about it, Liu Jin also felt that it was more appropriate for Emperor Hongzhi's internal funds to bear this part of the military expenditure.

Emperor Hongzhi is rich now, very rich, if it is Zhu Houzhao's industry, their father and son are definitely the biggest capitalists in the Ming Dynasty now, and they are also the richest people.

With the many industries that Liu Jin has set up, any one of them is a hen that lays golden eggs, even if it is the least profitable, it is also the earliest Xishan coal industry, and now it can bring hundreds of thousands of taels of silver to Emperor Hongzhi a year.

As for a series of industries such as the First Bank of the Ming Dynasty, the Miyun Iron Works, the Changlu Salt Factory, the Tianjin Cement Factory, the Tianjin Port, the Tianjin Shipyard, the glass factory, the textile factory, and so on, they can bring millions of taels of silver to the Hongzhi Emperor and the crown prince a year.

In addition, there are fleets that go to sea to fish, and fleets that go to sea to do business, which are also very profitable, especially the fleet that goes to sea for business, and every time they go back and forth between the Japanese and North Korea, they can earn millions of taels of silver.

Just from here, you can know how rich the current Hongzhi Emperor and Zhu Houzhao are, last time Emperor Hongzhi could take out 1.5 million taels of silver in one go, and at the same time deposited millions of taels of silver in the first bank of the Ming Dynasty, which shows that Emperor Hongzhi is rich.

Emperor Hongzhi used internal funds to support the army of the Ming Dynasty, there was absolutely no problem, and Emperor Hongzhi could afford to spend millions of taels of silver a year.

Even in the future, as more and more industries are invested, and at the same time the foreign expansion is carried out, the scope of business is getting bigger and bigger, establishing colonies overseas, mining gold mines, and so on.

Emperor Hongzhi's income will be more, and when the time comes, he will earn tens of millions of taels of silver a year, and it will be very easy to spend 10 million taels of silver to support the Ming army.

"From within?"

When Emperor Hongzhi, Liu Jian, and Li Dongyang heard this, they immediately said in surprise.

"Yes, from His Majesty's inner sins."

Zhang Mao nodded solemnly and said.

"This..."

When Emperor Hongzhi heard this, he was immediately a little unhappy, this is the emperor's small treasury, and this army is actually from the emperor's small treasury, it seems a little too much.

Although the current Hongzhi Emperor is also very rich, it is not a trivial matter to raise an army, the expenses are very huge, and more importantly, they need to be spent every year, and they need to be raised by one.

This also means that once the military reform is completed, all the expenses of the Ming army are paid out of the emperor's internal funds, then the internal income of the Hongzhi Emperor must be enough to maintain the army's expenses every year, at least speaking.

Although he has made some money now, in the long run, it is still unknown whether he can make money all the time, this is an extremely heavy burden, and Emperor Hongzhi does not dare to agree to it.

"If it comes out of the inner treasury, it is possible, and His Majesty's inner treasury is said to be full of silver."

Li Dongyang smiled and nodded and said.

Aren't you going to change the military system?

Do you want to abolish the military household system?

Yes, the implementation of the compulsory military service system is very costly, the treasury is empty, it is difficult to support it at all, and if you want to change the military system, then it is better to take money from your emperor's small treasury.

As long as your emperor is willing to give this silver, then we have no opinion.

Even Li Dongyang was thinking that if the emperor's internal funds were really used to spend on the military, then when formulating various expenditures in the future, this figure would go in the general direction as much as possible.

Military service cannot be done in vain, and it is not too much to give a few dozen taels of silver for four years of military service, but this expenditure alone is an incomparably large number.

A soldier is given 20 taels of silver in four years and raises 10,000 taels of silver, and in four years he is given 200,000 taels of silver, and if he raises 100,000, he is given 2 million taels of silver in four years.

The Ming Dynasty is so big, let alone have to keep an army of 300,000, and this expenditure alone can give you six million taels of silver in the past four years.

In addition, the food expenditure is a large amount, weapons and equipment, etc., and when the time comes, you will never stop if you don't give you the entire millions of taels of silver a year.

"That's a pretty good idea, and your majesty has money anyway."

Even Liu Jian couldn't help but nod his head in support after hearing this.

Only Emperor Hongzhi looked at Zhang Mao with a dark face, if this military expenditure comes from the inside, you can also say it, you are not the rhythm of bringing me to death?

I can't save some silver, you won't be willing to toss all my money.

"Your Majesty, on this point, in fact, the minister has also been carefully considered."

Zhang Mao smiled and said confidently.

"Oh?"

"Tell me about it."

Emperor Hongzhi looked at Zhang Mao with a dark face, but he really wanted to hear what Zhang Mao could say.

The pit emperor doesn't bring any pits.

"Your Majesty, it stands to reason that the expenses of this army should be borne by the imperial treasury, but the treasury is empty, and it has no way to support the normal expenses of a strong army."

"Unless we don't like to change the existing military system and continue the military household system, otherwise, if we want to reform and build a strong army, either the imperial court will levy heavy taxes and increase the revenue of the treasury, or we will find a way to support the expenditure of the army."

First of all, Zhang Mao pointed out very directly that it is very difficult to do something in the case of an empty state treasury, especially when it comes to such a big thing as military reform, and it is simply impossible to maintain the expenditure of a strong army under the current state treasury revenue.

The Ming Dynasty is now less than five million taels of silver a year (capital development, more taxes, and two million a year in Changlu Salt Farm), even if it is counted as grain, cloth, silk, and so on, which are levied from all over the country.

These are only enough to maintain the daily expenses of the imperial court, and there is not much silver taels, food, etc. to use on the army, so naturally there is no way to build a strong army.

Hearing Zhang Mao's words, Emperor Hongzhi also nodded, the imperial court levied heavy taxes, is this realistic?

It is not realistic at all, the taxes of ordinary people are already relatively heavy, and if they continue to levy heavy taxes, the common people will not be able to survive.

As for the introduction of a commercial tax, there is no need to think about it.

In the past, some people proposed to levy a commercial tax, but it was instantly drowned out by countless voices of opposition, and it was a hundred or a thousand times more difficult to impose a commercial tax than to recover military power.

So if Emperor Hongzhi wants to change the military system and build a strong army, what should he do when there is no way to increase the revenue of the treasury?

Of course, the silver was taken out from Emperor Hongji's own treasury.

In the final analysis, this world is still your old Zhu family, so don't be so clear.

What's more, this military power has been withdrawn into the hands of the emperor, should this military expenditure also come from your internal side?

After listening to Zhang Mao's words, Emperor Hongzhi nodded slightly, he had experienced the feeling of being scolded without silver.

In the past, I wanted to do something, Zhou Jing said, without silver, Emperor Hongzhi was instantly discouraged, and wanted to rely on the treasury to reform the military system, dreaming, it was not realistic at all.

If you want to change the military system and build a strong army, you must have enough money, and since the treasury is not good, you must take it out of your own internal funds.

It's just that if it really comes out of the internal funds, it means that in the future, your own internal funds must have enough income, which means that these current industries must make money, and they must purchase more industries and earn more silver.

This also means that Emperor Hongzhi is absolutely inseparable from these industries under his command, and once these industries have problems, he will not be able to earn enough silver to maintain military spending.

Of course, this is also a method that Liu Jin thought of, a way to tie the emperor firmly to the capitalist chariot, once this article is done.

Whoever becomes emperor must support the development of capitalism, otherwise there will be no way to get enough silver to maintain the Ming army.

In the same way, relying on the current market of the Ming Dynasty, it cannot meet the demand for capital, and it must expand externally, whether it is foreign trade or foreign colonization, in short, it needs to continuously obtain enough wealth from the world outside the Ming Dynasty.

And once capital embarks on the road of rapid development, Liu Jin believes that Daming will inevitably dominate the entire earth.

"Your Majesty, there is a good saying, the food of the king, the matter of loyalty to the king~"

"This military expenditure comes from the inside, everyone knows that this silver belongs to Your Majesty, and you are raising the thousands of troops and horses of the Ming Dynasty, so naturally the army of the Ming Dynasty is more loyal to Your Majesty."

Zhang Mao thought about it and continued to add.

At this point, it is said that Emperor Hongzhi's heart has gone inside, and if you think about it carefully, it is the same.

If you want people to be loyal to you, you have to give enough benefits, even if you are the emperor.

If you want the army to be self-centered, it is natural to invest this amount of money.

"I see, this must be the way that Liu Jin, a stinky boy, came up with, although Zhang Mao is a little clever, but he will never come up with such a clever plan."

Then Emperor Hongzhi quickly seemed to think of something, and immediately laughed.

This military power was finally recovered, and Emperor Hongzhi was actually afraid that he would be snatched back by the civilian clique, but if this military expenditure came from within, he would raise these troops himself.

If anything happens in the future, if this civilian-bureaucratic clique wants to take back military power, then the military expenditure alone will be enough to crush the national treasury.

Thinking about this clearly, Emperor Hongzhi immediately understood that these things were definitely not thought up by Zhang Mao.