It's actually very easy to talk to He Chou.

He Chou's age was there, and when it was time to do whatever he wanted, he had already lost the trembling he had when he first came in front of Li Po.

Now he speaks very casually, complains a few words when he is not satisfied, grins a few times when he is happy, looks happy and angry, and looks very comfortable.

You must know that He Chou is not only a nobleman, but also a high-ranking official.

Yang Jian is eloquent, but in his later years, he was extremely suspicious of the heroes, and he helped Yang Jian create a prosperous era, most of the famous people did not die well, but He Chou could still survive, and Yang Jian was entrusted with him on his deathbed, which must not be attributed to the simple word luck.

In fact, if he hadn't seen Li Po's temperament, he would never have been guilty of his subordinates for trivial reasons, and he would not have talked to King Han so freely.

After talking for a while, seeing that Li Po was not impatient at all, He Chou shook his head and said: "Look at the minister's memory, the lord summoned the minister to come, but there is something to discuss?" ”

Li Po put away his smile and nodded, "It's hard to say that we need to mobilize troops this year, the Ministry of Industry needs to be prepared, and I want to ask, what can be done to make the Yellow River a thoroughfare?" ”

This is really a big topic, He Chou stroked his beard for a long time and crossed the river to fight...... Then there is no need to ask, it must be to attack Li Tang, in terms of strategy, He Chou is not without ideas.

After hesitating for a long time, he asked a nonsense sentence as an introduction, "The lord intends to go west?" ”

Seeing Li Po nodding, he said again: "Now that there is a Fengling ferry in hand, why doesn't the lord take Luoyang to consolidate the foundation?" Obsessed with Li Tang, the so-called two tigers will fight, and one will be injured, won't he let others profit? After the previous war, Xiao Mill's power was quite strong, and this time he fought again, I am afraid that he will be married to others......"

Li Po raised his eyebrows, and he didn't like it in his heart, the courtiers in these years have both civil and military skills, and they can't be underestimated, especially an old minister like He Chou, who has led a lot of soldiers before, if you don't care about their statement, it may become a humiliating move.

It's just that he has made up his mind, and ordinary words can't shake his determination, so he shook his head lightly and smiled: "Shangshu is too worried, with today's situation, it is not difficult to go to Luoyang, but Dou Jiande went to Suidun to fight on the north bank of the Yellow River, waited and watched for a long time, and did not dare to cross the river. ”

"It's just taboo for the other two to attack each other, if I do it, I will definitely fight with Xiao Mo and Dou Jiande, and between the two of them, between each other, Li Tang takes advantage of the situation to sit big, and I have no worries about each other."

"Moreover, in the land of the four wars in Henan, there is no way to grow food, and it is impossible to get the convenience of the eastern capital, so it is useless to command the heroes."

"On the other hand, Li Tang, there are four stops in the land, easy to defend and difficult to attack, to peep into the world, its momentum is better than others, it cannot be controlled now, and it will be merged in the future, and now the one who is worried about it is the only one who holds the key passes along the Yellow River, so that I can not advance an inch."

Speaking of this, Li Pohe laughed, and continued: "If Shangshu can help me cross the Yellow River, and flatten Li Yuan only in charge, Shangshu's merit will be the head of everyone." ”

These strategic topics, He Chou has not heard of it, but once he came, he has been an official in the Eastern Capital for many years, and his impression of Luoyang is very profound, if you don't take a look with your own eyes, it is impossible for you to persuade him to give up the Eastern Capital.

Second, the various statements of others are far less convincing than those spoken by His Royal Highness the King of Han himself.

In fact, this is Li Po's own head and tail, and there is not much time to discuss strategy with his subordinates, so it has created a situation where the soldiers take the Han king as the leader, and the ministers concentrate on internal affairs.

There are many advantages and disadvantages, and it has become a very common thing for an old minister like He Chou to talk about the overall situation of the world when he sees the seams.

That's not all, in the long run, it's hard to predict what the consequences will be in the event of a major setback.

He Chou nodded with difficulty, as if he was persuaded, what did he think in his heart, he himself understood, His Royal Highness the King of Han, who was very good at observing words and feelings, also knew that the stubborn old man had a different opinion, but he didn't say it to argue with him.

Li Po was clear, but he wouldn't say anything more, because the strategy He Chou said couldn't change his mind, and it was useless to say more, what he had to do was to give full play to the strengths of his subordinates, rather than explaining his intentions to his subordinates one by one.

People are not aligned, it is not that everyone's ideas are consistent and inconsistent, but that what everyone is doing is beneficial to the overall situation, which can be called unity.

He Chou finally stopped challenging Li Po's patience and said: "The lord has been to the shore of Liaoshui, and he should know that the Yellow River is different from Liaoshui, the river is too turbulent, and those who can stand on it are mostly floating beams......"

Because of his age, He Chou's speech is indeed nagging, and the rhythm is also very slow, but when it comes to his attainments in architecture, not to mention the world, even if the people of the past thousand years are combined, there are only a handful of people who can surpass him, and some of them can barely win by taking advantage of the changes of the times and the conditions of technological progress.

So Li Po listened attentively and didn't interrupt without speaking.

In the study, only He Chou's voice sounded.

"Therefore, during the reign of Emperor Wen of the former Sui Dynasty, the Ministry of Imperial Engineering built a canal, which had the meaning of connecting the north and the south and opening the world, and later became a great cause."

Speaking of this, the people sighed before continuing: "It can be seen that it is difficult to build a bridge over the Yellow River...... In fact, what is even more difficult is the Yangtze River, which stretches for thousands of miles, the water is wide and deep, surging forward, like the sea and abyss, and it is impossible to build a bridge on it. ”

Can you say anything useful about this? Li Po was stretched for a long time, and finally became a little impatient, and wanted to pinch the old guy's neck and let him get to the point quickly.

He Chou is still unhurried, the old guy doesn't care how anxious you are, unless you think about it, otherwise when thinking about things, they can't be like young people, they can talk about whatever they want, their thinking is actually intermittent.

"The two rivers in the north and south separate the world, making it a thoroughfare, it is difficult to climb to the sky...... In fact...... In the final analysis, it is just that the bridge piles are difficult to stand, if one day, something can sink but not float, hard and difficult to touch, and there is no concern about the rust of the water, maybe you can give it a try? ”

This is obviously talking about reinforced concrete, Li Po blinked his eyes and thought, even if you can imagine it, but I have to have the ability to get it for you.

He Chou may be very willing to discuss purely technical issues with Li Po, but this guy in front of him has always been man-made, no matter how good the technology is, it must be used by people, and more importantly, it is of practical significance, so he will not describe to He Chou how majestic the bridge across the Yangtze River will be in the future.

He just said in a deep voice, "So, do you want to cross the river with a rope bridge?" Alas, I'm afraid that the casualties will be very heavy at that time. ”

He Hou picked the corner of his eye, glanced at him, and said in his heart, is there a good thing about casualties when you storm the river? What is the difference between you throwing such a big problem to the old man and Yang Er throwing out the matter of building a bridge on the shore of Liaoshui, just moving your mouth.

In fact, the problem is very simple, the bridge across the river should be built steadily, otherwise the people on the bridge will fall down in a flash, or the bridge will fall directly, which is called bad.

In addition, the bridge deck is as wide as possible to allow the army to pass, and then there is someone guarding the opposite shore, and when building the bridge, we must take into account that Yu Wenkai fell into such a pit, and never climbed out again, and his soul was broken in Liaodong.

He Chou didn't want to end up like Yu Wenkai, but fortunately, there was still more time, so he could think about what to do, especially when the Royal Highness of the Han King in front of him was not Yang Er's wife, and he was very tolerant.

Of course, if you let him lose his troops on the bank of the Yellow River because of the bridge, and break his head and bleed, then it is normal to bury him He Chou in turn.

So He Chou thought hard, didn't think about how to build the bridge, first wanted to find a replacement for the dead ghost, and as expected, Yun Dingxing's appearance appeared in the old guy's mind.

Not to mention that people abolish the public for private purposes or something, such skills are the necessary qualities of officials and nobles, only with such a heart, and such thinking, can go further and more steadily, generally speaking, people who are dedicated to the public will be killed by others sooner or later, this is the iron rule of officialdom.

Li Po really didn't know that the old man was wandering this time, and seeing his embarrassed appearance, it was also in his "expectation", and without waiting for He Chou to speak, he smiled and comforted: "This matter is not in a hurry, Shangshu can go back and think about it, but when the soldiers move, the Ministry of Industry must be prepared......

Seeing that He Chou gave up his hand to listen to the order, he added, "What's the best way, report it as soon as possible, there are quite a lot of people stationed by the river, let them do it first." ”

In fact, he already had some ideas at this time, but he didn't say anything more, because the army was fighting, and there was no room for negligence, so he really had to go back and think about it, and then discuss it with the people in the Ministry of Industry, so that he could report to Li Po.

The old man was a little regretful when he left, and he said that he couldn't show his ability for a long time, which made him a little uncomfortable, and I have to say that the older this person is, the more conceited he is, and the Taifuqing who was ordered on the shore of Liaoshui back then, General Zuotunwei, and Doctor Yinqing Guanglu are different.

Li Po was not disappointed, called He Chou over, one is to build a bridge, and the other is to let the Ministry of Industry be prepared, this year's tough battle, whether it is facing Tongguan or the big river, makes the Ministry of Industry particularly important.

Speaking of He Chou, it has been more than two years since he came to Jinyang, and the role is obvious, whether it is Cangshui City, which was completed this year, or the battle of Pusaka, and then there is the crossing of the river to attack the Fengling crossing, the craftsmen in the army have played a significant role.

It can be said that He Chou made up for the shortcomings of the Jindi army, which was not good at attacking the city, and gradually gave the infantry army its due combat power, which made Li Po very satisfied.

Li Po didn't know if there was any surprise in this move, but he understood that the key to this battle was strategy, and it was also the performance of the Ministry of Industry.

And then, naturally, it is the turn of the household department, the so-called soldiers and horses have not moved, and the grain and grass go first.