[0714 Wang Ji nodded]
Convincing Shoufu and the Criminal Department Shangshu is not the same as persuading Wei Zhongxian.
Wei Zhongxian is much older than them, but these two are high-ranking civil officials, and this is a new topic for Wei Bao.
Fortunately, Wei Bao is very calm and unhurried.
The most important thing is not here, they are not all for the sake of the emperor, the key is Wei Bao's method, which is very difficult for them to operate.
There's a gap between the old and the new.
"Master Wei, what if the Criminal Department doesn't do this? You can do this in the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple, that's because you Master Wei is powerful, the old man asked himself if he didn't have this ability, the Criminal Department decided the case, and the rules at each level were formed over thousands of years, where is it said that it can be changed? Wang Ji said unhappily.
Wei Bao smiled: "Lord Wang, don't be angry, and listen patiently, okay?" You say that if the criminal department is like this for thousands of years, I will say that one day, is this the case in the Taizu Dynasty? Do the officials of the Criminal Department dare to try the case indiscriminately? If you take a bribe or a tael, you will be caught and peeled the daylily. ”
"Master Wei, if you say so, go and picket corrupt officials, I have no opinion! But you don't want to make trouble with the Criminal Department to fight against the Metropolitan Procuratorate, and make trouble until the judiciary is paralyzed in various places, and the world is in chaos. Wang Ji threatened: "Don't say it, if there is anything, let the imperial history of the Metropolitan Procuratorate and the Dali Temple of Dali Temple tell me!" I can't tell you. ”
Wang Ji had already realized what Wei Bao was going to say, and he had completely lost his patience, and he didn't want to listen, "Lord Shoufu, I still have something to do, so I'll leave first!" ”
Gu Bingqian also realized what Wei Bao was going to say, and he was also very embarrassed, and wanted to persuade Wang Ji and the others to leave, but he couldn't open his mouth.
In the judicial field, the Criminal Department is mainly responsible for adjudicating cases, the Metropolitan Procuratorate is mainly responsible for supervising the people who judge cases, and the Dali Temple is mainly responsible for reviewing whether the judgment is correct or not.
Major cases will be tried together, which is often referred to as "three divisions will be tried".
The Criminal Department is one of the six departments, which is in charge of criminal decrees and examination of criminal names.
The Metropolitan Procuratorate is in charge of monitoring, impeachment, and recommendations.
In the Ming Dynasty, the status of the Imperial Procuratorate was lofty, and the imperial history of the capital and the six books were called the Seven Qings.
Dali Temple is in charge of the trial of criminal and prison cases.
The three are also known as the three legal divisions, and together constitute the judicial organs of the Ming Dynasty.
Among them, the criminal department has the most work, and it has to review criminal cases in various localities, especially death penalty cases. At the same time, it is necessary to hear cases and major cases in the Gyeonggi area.
In addition to this, there are amendments to the law, the administration of mitigating sentences, the administration of fines, and so on.
The Metropolitan Procuratorate was mainly equivalent to the supervisory organ of later generations, and the Ming Dynasty's speech officials were quite active, and in fact they were in charge of everything. As the eyes and ears of the Son of Heaven, as long as he feels that any official is doing something wrong, he can report it to the emperor.
In the judicial field, it is mainly to supervise the trial of cases. Of course, there is also the right to picket, and the minor punishment of minor officials can be decided at their own discretion.
The main function of Dali Temple is to review cases, ensure judicial fairness, and prevent unjust, false and wrongful cases.
For cases approved by Dali Temple, the Criminal Department and the Metropolitan Procuratorate can be sent to prison. If Dali Temple thinks that there is a problem with the case, it can protest, and eventually it will generally play a holy ruling.
It can be seen that although the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple both have the function of supervising and reviewing cases, the Metropolitan Procuratorate focuses more on managing people, mainly to see whether the judge has engaged in favoritism and malpractice, and Dali Temple focuses more on business, mainly to see whether the judgment of the case is wrong.
From the perspective of status, Dali Temple is relatively low, and the chief officials of the Criminal Department and the Metropolitan Procuratorate are all one of the Seven Qings, and Dali Temple is not so important.
From a professional point of view, the Criminal Department is relatively poor, doing the dirtiest and most tiring work, and is subject to the dual supervision of the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple.
From which point of view, the Metropolitan Procuratorate is the most powerful, but it is a pity that the Metropolitan Procuratorate is usually each taking care of its own and doing its own thing, and it is not as complete as the Criminal Department and Dali Temple to form a whole.
Therefore, the three divisions have always been in a state of balance, and the distribution of silver also depends on the specific case, the officials in this case, whether it is the Criminal Department, or the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple, the relevant officials can get a piece of the pie, and the biggest, the officials in power can get a piece of the pie.
Wei Bao did this, obviously to take away the power of the biggest chief official, and Wang Ji naturally didn't do it.
The Imperial History of the Metropolitan Procuratorate and the Dali Temple Qing did not want to follow Wei Bao's set, but they were temporarily suppressed by the celebrant supervisor, and Wei Zhongxian did not send back the recital that rejected Wei Bao's self-transformation of personnel in the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple, and they had no way to target Wei Bao.
Wang Ji is the secretary of the Criminal Department, and the Criminal Department is not under the management of the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple, everyone is on an equal footing, why listen to you Wei Bao?
Wei Bao was still very patient, and stopped Wang Ji with a smile: "Lord Wang, no matter how busy you are, you can only take a break for a while, just give me a stick of incense, okay?"
"What are you doing? Do you still want to get your hands dirty? It's so presumptuous! The old man is the secretary of the criminal department appointed by the imperial court! Wang Ji was startled when he saw that Wei Bao was coming over and had a tendency to make a move, he had seen Wei Bao beat a group of big people in the palace with his own eyes, and he himself was pushed by Wei Bao in the chaos at that time, but fortunately he did not resist desperately, but ran away, otherwise he would have been knocked to the ground by Wei Bao like those people.
Gu Bingqian also remembered that scene vividly, and was also afraid that Wei Bao would beat Wang Ji, so he quickly got up and said, "Master Wei, don't worry, don't do it!" ”
"Where am I going to do it?" Wei Bao Waterfall Khan, "I just want to ask Lord Wang to wait for me to finish speaking, so as not to misunderstand that I want to share Lord Wang's power and wealth!" Not only will our Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple not be stuck in the Criminal Department in the future, but I can also guarantee that Lord Wang will get a more lucrative income than now in the future, and his power and prestige will also increase! ”
Wang Ji stopped, on the one hand, he was a little afraid that Wei Bao would do it, on the other hand, he was confused by Wei Bao, according to Wei Bao's practice in the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple, it will definitely damage the interests of the chief officer, if there is any case before, the chief officer must nod, the chief official must be the one who takes the biggest head, but Wei Bao's approach, all the people below have the final say, and the silver that the chief official can get is transparent, and this can be said to be able to get a more lucrative income than now?
What is done by the people below, so can it be said that the prestige of the power will also increase?
Do you think I'm a three-year-old?
Wei Bao saw that Wang Ji didn't go out again, forcibly pressed Wang Ji back to the official hat chair and sat down, and said with a smile: "Lord Wang, just a stick of incense, no matter if you listen to it or not, you always want to leave, I will never stop it, will it succeed?" ”
"Lord Wang, since Master Wei has said so, you can let him go, he is young after all, let's listen to what the young man has to say." Gu Bingqian persuaded from the side.
Wang Ji sighed and glanced at Wei Bao, "Then Master Wei will say it quickly!" The old man doesn't like this very much! Unless it's Ouchi, no one can stop me from getting in and out. ”
Mainly because Wei Bao is only the fifth grade, he is a Shangshu! Even the squire of the Criminal Department is also a third-grade person, and he is too far from Wei Bao's level, four levels more than Wei Bao!
In Wang Ji's opinion, Wei Bao didn't even have the qualifications to talk to his squire, let alone talk to him?
If it weren't for Wei Bao blocking the door of Lord Shoufu's mansion today, Wei Bao would not have been willing to meet him in his mansion.
"Yes, yes, I never wanted to collide with Lord Wang." Wei Bao smiled and continued: "I know Lord Wang's difficulty, the officials of the Criminal Department in Beijing and the magistrates are the same line, but they are not together, and it is difficult to control. ”
"It's good that you know, the people from the Metropolitan Procuratorate and the Yamen of Dali Temple are together, and you are good at managing people." Wang Jidao: "The rules formed over thousands of years, where can they be broken?" The Criminal Department's decision on cases has never reached the point where they are all unjust, and I admit that there may be individual cases that need to be corrected. ”
"Lord Wang, I'm discussing issues with you, not to raise the bar with you, not individual cases, more than ninety percent, or even more, more than 30 cases of the Criminal Department that I personally inquired about today have problems! None of them are without problems! Wei Bao retorted: "The cases in the Metropolitan Procuratorate are all major homicide cases, and this is already the case, so the local punishment is according to the case of the Yamen of the Prosecutor's Office, are these situations more serious?" If the unjust cases are not cleared, how can the people have confidence in the Ming court? ”
"What do you say, Lord Wei? Officials all replaced? The Criminal Department is in charge of the world's criminal names, and the officials are so scattered, as soon as you make a move here, the world is already in chaos, and no one cares about the cases in various places, is there even more serious incident? Wang Ji still refutes this view.
"You don't have to change everything, you can either change the chief officer or transfer it." Wei Bao said, "Only move a dozen or so people, and it will be solved." ”
In the case of the first instance or the trial, it is possible to face the plaintiff and the defendant; It is impossible for the review to bring all people from all over the country to the capital, so it should be based on copywriting.
Torture of prisoners and torture to extract confessions were legal at the time, and theoretically, except for scholars with meritorious reputation, they could be tortured during the passage of time.
Major cases that cannot be handled locally belong to the Ministry of Criminal Justice, and there may not be a clear division, which is roughly equivalent to the "Ministry of Public Security supervising and handling cases" in later generations.
In fact, the criminal officials of a province are only 1 + 1 deputy envoy and 1 + N, and the cases of various departments of the criminal department are much less, and it is relatively normal for two officials to do so.
The criminal work of the officials and soldiers is roughly in this order, and the status of the criminal department is not high.
"For a dozen or so?" Wang Ji was amazed at Wei Bao's imagination, he didn't dare to think so anyway.
"Well, after the completion of the personnel transformation, the criminal department is still Lord Wang's final say, and the world's criminal names are all decided by Lord Wang, as long as the criminal department does well, the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple will be more relaxed, the personnel of Dali Temple do not need to change, and the Metropolitan Procuratorate can even continue to lay off many people! But if the Criminal Department continues like this, the Metropolitan Procuratorate will have to take on more of the work of the Criminal Department. Lord Wang, if you don't reform the upper and lower levels of the Criminal Department, I can directly send the Imperial History to various places to replace the subordinate envoys! Although the official rank of the imperial history is not high, His Majesty who represents it, even the governor and governor, has to give face when he sees it. Wei Bao said.
Wang Ji knew that Wei Bao could do what he said, this was a lawless and bold person.
He suddenly regretted staying to listen to Wei Bao say this, he felt that he was led by Wei Bao and completely fell into Wei Bao's thoughts, if he left, no matter what Wei Bao said or did, he still insisted on his own set, the criminal department just didn't dump Wei Bao, he believed that Wei Bao had nothing to do.
Let the imperial history replace the officials of the criminal department, that is just talking, the promotion of the imperial history needs the imperial court, Wei Bao has now completed the personnel transformation of the Metropolitan Procuratorate and Dali Temple, many new officials, but these people have not been appointed by the celebrant and the cabinet, it is not justifiable, where will the magistrate pay attention to them?
"In the future, the name of the world's punishment, for example, we are going to change a death row prisoner to a military allocation, and ask him to receive 10 taels of silver, and the local punishment will be 2 taels according to the Prosecutor's Department, 2 taels will be awarded to the Criminal Department, 2 taels will be awarded to the Dali Temple, 2 taels will be obtained by the Metropolitan Procuratorate, and 2 taels will be obtained from His Majesty's internal funds, is this fair? Guilt is guilt, the punishment can be reduced, and spending money is allowed, but it is never allowed to reverse right and wrong, and the people must not be allowed to make the absolute court law useless and lose their trust in the government! This is not only a matter of the judicial yamen, but also the dignity of the entire imperial court! Shousuke-sama, do you say yes? After Wei Bao finished talking to Wang Ji, he asked Shoufu Gu Bingqian again.
In fact, in the judicial part, Gu Bingqian, an official of their level, can't get any silver at all, and he doesn't care if he gets very little.
But Gu Bingqian felt that if he could really follow Wei Bao's actions and clear up the unjust prison, even if the punishment scale was lowered and many people who were to be punished for serious crimes were covered, at least the innocence of the victim was returned.
However, Gu Bingqian didn't say anything, even if his heart was already inclined to Wei Bao's method, he wouldn't give his opinion casually, traditional high-ranking officials are like this, they run faster than anyone else when they collect cashiers, and they are silent when they make ideas.
"Master Wei, this matter is too involved, let's talk about it later, I have to discuss it with many people." Wang Ji changed his strategy, from direct resistance to prevarication.
Wei Bao smiled: "Who else do you want to discuss?" Dali Temple and the Metropolitan Procuratorate have already done this, doing this, it is good for Your Majesty, it is good for the nine thousand years old, and the officials in the yamen have not taken less silver, and there is no loss to anyone! I don't believe that Lord Wang can't figure out this account, are you willing to take the same silver, be annoyed by all kinds of things all day long, and be scolded by the people for being corrupt and mediocre officials, or are you willing to take the same silver, easily, and have a good official body, everyone praises Lord Wang as Bao Qingtian is alive? It's not hard to choose, right? As for the people from you to the nine thousand years old, I believe that after the nine thousand years old get the money, they will level the relationship, and there is no need for adults to worry about it. ”
"Master Wei, don't force me anymore, you always have to let me think about it, right? Do you want me to promise you now? Wang Ji said with a bitter face.
"Give Lord Wang a day to think about it, the local punishment will be changed according to the various yamen of the Procuratorial Department, and I will send the officials of the Metropolitan Procuratorate to cooperate with Lord Wang, and within a month, the national criminal officials will be replaced! I want the sky of the Ming Dynasty to be a blue sky, a blue sky, not a black one. Wei Bao decisively set a deadline.
Wang Ji and Shoufu Gu Bingqian glanced at each other helplessly, but did not speak.
Wei Bao smiled: "Who else can we discuss this matter with?" Discuss with 9,000 years old? Isn't one day enough? Tomorrow at noon, I will go to the king's house. ”
"Master Wei, the officials protect each other, it's not as simple as you think, the officials of the local criminal envoy department and the yamen, the political envoy department, and the local squire, it is all a relationship between broken bones and tendons, if you change it so hard, something big will happen, do you want to lead to the isolation of our criminal department? Didn't the local squires buy the accounts of the imperial court? It's not that simple. Wang Jidao.
"Lord Wang, there are some things that you have to say difficult, maybe you won't be able to do it in your lifetime! There are some things that you have to say are simple, and if you do them, you will do them. Before the first assistant Zhang Juzheng implemented the new policy, how much resistance was there? Isn't it just the same and just done? I have thought about the matter of the Criminal Department, in the past, officials committed crimes, and they were not to blame in the past, or they were punished lightly, and they must be strictly managed in the future, and we cannot recreate cases that make the people feel cold, and if we want to take silver, we have to do it to the big households, and we can't loot the people's fat and people's ointment! All officials of the Criminal Department can only watch from other places and are not allowed to return to their localities. Wei Bao said.
"What if the local magistrates and squires don't buy it? You haven't said that yet, whatever? "Wang Jidao: 'If they don't buy it, we won't be able to move an inch!'
"How can it be difficult to move an inch? As long as you handle the case impartially, the people will support you, this is enough, grab the evidence, catch the arrest, and escort the Jingshi to the Jingshi, isn't it easy? Could it be that Lord Wang still wants me to personally go to the Provincial Sentencing Department to replace a Sentencing Officer and do it for a period of time for Lord Wang? Wei Bao smiled: "I have a knife in my hand, and there is a sky above my head, I want to see who dares not to cooperate." The officials who did not cooperate happened to report to the Metropolitan Procuratorate and were removed as a whole. ’
Wang Ji has been completely brought into Wei Bao's thinking, although he is a big corrupt official, who is attached to Wei Zhongxian, who is not a big corrupt official? But he admits that if Wei Bao does this, if he really succeeds, how much influence he has on his personal wealth and power, and how much influence he has, he can really be more relaxed and get a better official reputation, and it can even be said that there is only benefit and no harm.
"Master Wei, you are still young, I am this age, how many years can I still be an official? What you said is good, but have you ever thought that this time, it is not a few people who are offended, but all the magistrates and local gentry who are offended! We are officials, as long as we can get by, is it necessary to work so hard? Wang Ji said: "Don't forget, we are colleagues and friends of officialdom who help each other, not those mud legs." No matter how much benefit you give to the mud legs, they will only say a few words verbally, if it is really like what you said, to clear up the unjust and wrongful cases, and if there is a little mistake in the case in the future, it will be counted out by the people, then what is the point? ”
"Peace of conscience!" Wei Bao said firmly: "Accumulate virtue and do good!" Lord Wang, you are a high-ranking official in this life, and your ancestors have accumulated virtue and done good deeds, and you only think about yourself, haven't you thought about your future generations? The Criminal Department will carry out this set of clean government system in your hands, you will be famous in the world, and your good official reputation will benefit future generations. ”