The punishment does not avoid the doctor, and the reward does not spare the husband. There is nothing incomprehensible about this sentence.

Cheng Yi's worry was not that he couldn't understand these two sentences, but that he thought in his heart that Gan Qi must have had a rehearsal before the question, and he must have some high opinion on these two sentences, so Cheng Yi wanted to think as much as possible before answering, and try to be as good as possible.

Gan Qi didn't say anything to urge, still maintaining his personable appearance.

Cheng Yi finally replied: "I thought that if I did it, I would not avoid the doctor, this is what Shang Ying did in Qin, and it is intended to be fair and just." Reward the good is not spared, the same is true, the husband has merit, privately think, than the doctor's meritorious service, more rare, more rewarded, so as to unite the hearts of the people in the world, usually can inspire people's hearts, chaos can tide over the difficulties together. It is the foundation of governing the country. If the doctor breaks the law and does not punish him, if he does not reward the man for his merits, the country will be in chaos. ”

After Cheng Yi finished answering, he immediately looked at Gan Qi, waiting for Gan Qi's reaction.

Gan Qi's reaction was beyond his expectations, because Gan Qi nodded again and again, and praised him: "Brother Cheng's talent, Brother Cheng's words are deeply in line with my heart, and it is my understanding of this statement." ”

Cheng Yi smiled when he heard this, he thought that Gan Qi would make some big arguments to suppress himself, and when he heard Gan Qi say that he and his understanding were the same, it meant that Gan Qi did not have any lofty words, so this question was over.

Unexpectedly, Gan Qi asked next: "Dare to ask Brother Cheng that the current imperial court can do what he said?" ”

Debate and contention, staying at the stage of theory, is not what Ganchi wants, Ganchi must combine theory with reality, so that he can truly express his views.

Cheng Yi replied with a smile: "Today's imperial court, that is naturally doing very well, today's saint, is a great benevolent and righteous king, benevolent to the people, very strict with scholars, and never tolerates mistakes." This is something that everyone in the world knows. ”

"How so?" Gan Qi said again, which means to let Cheng Yi give an example.

This kind of example is in the dynasty of Renzong Zhao Zhen, there are too many, Cheng Yi came easily: "The so-called punishment does not avoid the doctor, today's saint is in this way, there are too many examples, not to mention those petty officials, even if it is the respect of the prince in the court, it is also said that the punishment will be punished, but there is a fault, and the dismissal of the official can not be counted, and not far away, just say the matter of the recent three envoys Zhang Fangping, just say it." Besides, rewarding kindness is not sparing, then it is needless to say, Your Majesty's benevolence, not only in rewarding kindness, Your Majesty does more good, you see all dynasties, which son of heaven will let the peddler pawn beg for a living at the gate of the imperial city? Only today's saints, thinking of the suffering of the people, do not even drive away the peddlers and pawns at the gate of the imperial city. Your Majesty today, that is a rare saint in the ages, distinguishing between right and wrong, benevolence and righteousness in the heart, listening to the clear, and speaking widely, never being guilty of words, you and I are born in this dynasty, how fortunate it is. ”

Cheng Yi's words were not flattery, but really heartfelt, and he really thought so in his heart.

Not only Cheng Yi, but even any scholar on the spot thought so.

The Renzong Dynasty, probably the most reader-friendly era in history, surpassed not only other dynasties, but also any emperor of the Song Dynasty itself. Scholars live in the Renzong Dynasty, and that is really the happiest thing.

Even if Bao Zheng answers this question, the answer must be similar to Cheng Yi. Bao Zheng sprayed Renzong, that is also a matter of facts, it is always a matter, if you really want to talk about the moral character of Renzong, even if it is Bao Zheng Ouyang Xiu's generation, he can't say a bad word.

Gan Qi shook his head when he heard this.

Cheng Yi Gan Qi shook his head, a little unhappy, and asked rhetorically: "Could it be that Brother Gan Xian doesn't agree with my evaluation?" Could it be that Brother Gan Xian feels that today's saint is at a loss for benevolence and righteousness? ”

Gan Qi nodded: "I don't dare to agree." ”

Gan Qi said a word, and the audience was in an uproar, Cheng Yi was even more shocked, and hurriedly asked: "Gan Daojian, do you disagree with my words?" Does it mean that the court has avoided the scholars, or that the court has neglected the doctors? Or do you think I praise the words of the Holy Ones today, and you don't agree with them? ”

Gan Qi said again: "I don't dare to agree. ”

This time, there was an uproar in the audience, even Cai Qu and Li Ding looked shocked, and Hu Ying stood up directly, looking at Gan Qi with a surprised face.

Gan Qi today, I don't say whether there is a suspicion of rebellion, but Gan Qi really challenged the cognition of everyone present today.

Even if it is Hu Jin, for Renzong Zhao Zhen, the emperor who has been in office for thirty-seven years, he can't say a bad word. Renzong Zhao Zhen is perhaps the emperor who is most in line with Confucian values. The great Confucian Hu Ming, how could he not agree with Zhao Zhen?

But would Gan Chi even disagree with the current emperor?

Today, Gan Qi seems to be challenging the values of Confucianism as a whole.

Hu Ying couldn't help but remind Gan Qi of a word: "Dao Jian, don't talk nonsense." ”

Hu Ying reminded Gan Qi that he was really afraid that this proud protégé and heir to the mantle would say something that would discredit him.

The people around Hu Ying shook their heads again and again. In today's world, there is no problem with spraying the court, and there is no problem with spraying the emperor, but it depends on what you spray, spraying the specific matter of the court, spraying well, others will think that you have a good opinion.

But if you don't agree with the moral character of today's emperor, then you must be crazy, this is not singing praises of virtue, this is the desire of the people, this is the consensus of the world, not only the consensus of the world today, but also the consensus of all subsequent dynasties. During the Ming and Qing dynasties, whoever educated the emperor would definitely take Song Renzong as an example to learn.

Renzong has been an emperor for more than 30 years, and he has already proved his moral character again and again countless times, and the world is convinced.

Whoever dares to say that Emperor Renzong is not a good person, the whole world will not be able to get along with you.

"Everyone, be quiet, and let me finish speaking." Ganchi spoke loudly.

Cheng Yi immediately said: "Gan Daojian, you say, look at what you can say, what is there in today's saint that makes you dare to say such arrogant words." ”

At this time, Cheng Yi's face was no longer shocked, the shock had passed, but he was a little excited, just now he was worried about how to find Gan Qi's loophole to defeat Gan Qi, at this time Gan Qi actually sent the loophole to the door himself, and even Gan Qi did not send a loophole, but committed suicide, it had become a sensationalism.

How could Gan Chi not say it? Immediately said loudly: "If you have been punished, you don't avoid the doctor, dare to ask Zhang Fangping about it, bully the people, force you to buy and sell, and bully others, can you be punished by criminal punishment?" ”

Cheng Yi immediately replied: "Hasn't Zhang Fangping already dismissed?" The three envoys are so high, just say it, decades of hard work, say no, it's gone, so it's not a punishment? ”

Gan Qi immediately retorted: "Is dismissal a punishment a punishment? What is the difference between bullying and robbing by force and robbing by bandits in the mountains and forests? If the mountain and forest bandits are punished, what is the punishment? If it is heavy, it will be beheaded, and if it is light, it will be stabbed and filled with troops. Why did he Zhang Fangping commit this serious crime, and he could be dismissed? The dismissal of the official is nothing but a loss of his virtue and inability. On the surface, it seems that I have been punished and cannot avoid the doctor, but in essence, I have never been punished by the doctor, why do I say this? If an official has done it, it will inevitably affect the vital interests of hundreds of people, and this is a crime, and he should be punished by criminal punishment, but the officials of our dynasty have always been demoted and dismissed, and they have never really been punished. What makes sense? ”

Gan Qi's remarks are actually very simple. For example, in later generations, if an official is found to be corrupt, dismissal is the most basic, recovery of stolen money is also the most basic, and more importantly, you have to go to jail or even be shot.

But in the Renzong Dynasty, if an official found something corrupt, he was more likely to deal with it by demoting or dismissing the official, and that's it. Just like Zhang Fangping's incident, not to mention where he got so much money to buy land, is there corruption and bribery, just say that he forced to buy and sell, it is a crime, a crime, just dismiss the official?

This concept has a great impact on the people in the audience.

Cheng Yi couldn't agree, pointed at Gan Qi and said: "Clever and eloquent, a scholar, countless years of cold windows, entered the officialdom, and worked hard to be promoted step by step." Letting decades of hard work go to waste, how can this not be considered a punishment, how can this not be considered a punishment? ”

Gan Qi immediately replied: "Zhang Fangping's generation, take it by force, can you break the law?" In my Great Song Dynasty law, one by one, which one stipulates that dismissal is a punishment? Since the law is violated, it should be decided in accordance with the laws of the Great Song Dynasty, whether to beat the board, whether to go to prison, or to assassinate the army, or beheading, that is all by the law. Dismissal was never a punishment in the law. Zhang Fangping's dismissal from office, isn't it just an extrajudicial escape? If one day, in the laws of the Great Song Dynasty, the dismissal of officials is written as one of the punishments, I Ganqi will never say what I say today. But now, he, Zhang Fangping, and even Zhang Fangping's generation, can avoid the law by dismissing and demoting officials, and this is impunity! ”

Gan Qi said a word, and the audience was silent. Everyone looked at Gan Qi dumbfounded, this kind of truth, Gan Qi can also say it?

Not everyone was convinced by Ganch. It's that everyone thinks that Gan Qi's perspective on things is too peculiar, beyond the cognition of everyone in this era. And it's so well-founded that you can't find any loopholes at all.

Gan Qi can't convince others, nor can he change everyone's perceptions with just a few words. But there's no denying that Gan Chi has a point.

Cai Qu looked at Gan Qi dumbfounded, Li Ding stabbed Cai Qu, and said: "Hurry up, write it down, Mr. is so high, it must be recorded in a book." ”

"Oh." Cai did come back to his senses and hurriedly raised his pen to write.

Gan Qi walked to the middle of the lobby and looked around, not only looking at Cheng Yi, but also turning his head to look at Hu Yin. No one in the audience answered his words.

Gan Qi said again: "Everyone, what you said below, is there any reason? ”

There is a truth, but no one will admit that Ganchi has a point. Why? Because all the people present were scholars and scholars, they were all in the same camp as the officials in their hearts, and many of them would also become officials in the future. If you become an official in the future and make a mistake, it is not enough to dismiss the official, and you will go to jail?

Man is selfish, and selfish people, at this moment, how can they admit that Ganchi has a point?

No one answered.

Only Cheng Yi spoke: "Ignore this for now, and then ask you, what do you disagree with about the conduct of the saint today?" Where is the loss of the Holy One above morality? ”

This is probably the technique of debating, and the topic just now is dead. Then immediately change the topic and focus on the other party's weakness.

Gan Qi dared to say that the emperor was morally at a loss, which was the weakness of Gan Qi's defeat with one blow. The old emperor of more than 30 years, benevolent and righteous, admired by everyone in the world, how dare he Ganqi be so sensational?

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