Chapter 794: Promise or Refuse?
After Innocent X once again expressed his gratitude to Emperor Chongzhen, Emperor Chongzhen directly threw out a question, and Innocent X didn't know how to answer this question.
"I heard that after Pangu opened the world and died, there was Haotian Jinque, the Supreme Supreme, and naturally Miluo, the true Jade Emperor God incarnated thousands and ruled the heavens.
And the creator is the innate saint Nuwa Niangniang, and there are three ...... of the creators."
After a specious theory, Emperor Chongzhen himself was a little confused - where am I? What did I say? What do I want to do?
By the way, I'm in Europe, bragging with Pope Innocent X, I want to fool Innocent X!
Judging from the immediate effect, Emperor Chongzhen's flickering Dafa has obviously seen some results, although Innocent X did not immediately change his position, but the whole person's brows have been tightly wrinkled.
Innocent X was confused.
Religion, no matter how it is, is made up by people, regardless of whether it is Taoism or Buddhism or other religions, its essence is deepened by human legends and then made up by people.
Stories made up by people can basically find flaws and loopholes, and all religions are no different, which is also where there are some contradictions in many religious stories.
It is precisely because of this that those who are basically in high positions in religion are often not too devout believers, and the same is true of Innocent X.
However, these theories thrown out by Emperor Chongzhen not only sound fine at first glance, but even if they are carefully scrutinized, there is no problem.
From Pangu's opening of the world to the incarnation of all things after his death, and then to the Jade Emperor's enlightenment, the relationship between man and God, the causes and consequences of the movement of the continental section, the origin of human beings, and the causes and consequences of different languages, almost all theories cannot find flaws.
Although Emperor Chongzhen himself does not believe in this kind of, there is an old saying that a lie is said ten thousand times and becomes the truth, and it is no problem for Emperor Chongzhen to fool Innocent X with these theories.
Innocent X, who was at a loss, looked at everyone present - if there was any problem with Emperor Chongzhen's theory, then it was impossible for those people in the Ming Dynasty to behave at all.
However, what made Innocent X even more confused was that all the Ming people thought deeply about this, and when Emperor Chongzhen pulled out these theories, they actually had such expressions.
It's weird.
Mixed with the position of the Pope, Innocent X saw more treacherous methods, and also saw more ordinary people who were brainwashed into fanatical believers.
But the top brass still had this expression, Innocent X asked himself if he had seen it, and what scared Innocent X even more was the cardinals and purple bishops he brought.
What kind of urine are those archbishops under his command, Innocent X is simply very clear, playing **, raising lovers, there is almost nothing they dare not do.
If you add the missionaries, whose illegitimate sons and illegitimate daughters together can circle the globe, they have no less money in their hands than the vampire country of France......
However, it is such a group of people, who are basically in the same state of confusion as themselves at the moment, and even a few people have a thoughtful look on their faces.
Thinking about what?
At the moment just now, Innocent X believed the that Emperor Chongzhen had just said, and these people were probably thinking about the same questions as themselves, and they were also thinking about whether Emperor Chongzhen's words were true or false.
If it's true, then it's very easy to do, the religion of the world is one, everyone believes in the Jade Emperor, the difference is that they believe in the different doppelgangers of the Jade Emperor, which is not a big deal.
If it's fake, then what does Emperor Chongzhen want to express when he says such a lot? What did he want to achieve?
After a long period of silence, Innocent X spoke: "What does Your Majesty mean?" ”
Emperor Chongzhen suddenly laughed in his heart.
From the very beginning of "His Majesty the Ming Emperor" to the current "Your Majesty", I am afraid that Innocent has already believed the nonsense he just said in his heart.
It's good to have more talents, Zhang Xianyong plus the monk on the other side, Chen Mo and Duan Xiaorong, these four guys who are roughly equivalent to the level of street writers at the starting point of later generations, led a large group of apprentices and grandchildren to make up a good story, almost plugging all the loopholes!
At the very least, I've already seen some effect when I fool Innocent X, right?
Emperor Chongzhen, who accepted it when he saw it, laughed twice and said: "I don't mean anything else, it's just that all the people in the world are people created by Nuwa Niangniang, and the people in the world believe in thousands of incarnations of the Jade Emperor God."
If I don't come to Europa, forget it, since I have already come, then I should tell you these secrets of the fairy world, and then tell the people of Europe through you, I really don't want to see Europe like this. ”
If it weren't for Emperor Chongzhen's last words, Innocent X would have been touched by Emperor Chongzhen's great selflessness, but with the addition of the last sentence, Innocent X would have come to his senses.
Europe is in chaos like this, and you, the Ming Emperor, really don't have any numbers in your heart?
Who sells the arms? Who bought the piglets? How many wars in Europe, large and small, are there without the shadow of the Ming Dynasty?
Now say that your old man can't bear to see Europe in such a mess? Fool the hell!
Innocent X, who had already seen through Emperor Chongzhen's thoughts, immediately bowed down and said: "Your Majesty's great love, I will definitely spread Your Majesty's favor and glory throughout the entire European continent." ”
Emperor Chongzhen smiled and said, "Since they are all a family, why are they so polite?" I also intend to allow the Catholic Church to preach to the Ming Dynasty, but at this time, I just want to talk to the Pope first. ”
It was only then that Innocent X understood.
The so-called great love and grace are basically, just listen to it, and no one needs to take it seriously.
The real purpose of Emperor Chongzhen was to let himself revise the original scriptures and change them into scriptures with the characteristics of Ming Doctrine and can adapt to the folk customs of the Ming Dynasty.
It's a poison with honey!
If you don't eat, you can only look at the large land of Daming and can't preach, not only will you feel uncomfortable, but the bishops and priests below will also be uncomfortable.
If you eat it, then the doctrine will face revision, and revising the doctrine is a double-edged sword.
After the doctrinal revision, it is possible to preach to the Ming Dynasty, but those religious ideas of the Ming Dynasty have also entered the Catholic Church, and will the Catholic Church still be the original Catholicism at that time?
Don't say anything about revising only the part that was dedicated to the Ming mission, because all cultural influences are two-way, and the flow of Ming religious ideas into Europe is inevitable.
So, should you agree or not?
Without waiting for Innocent X to make a decision, Emperor Chongzhen took the lead in diverting the topic.
The deal that is rushing is not a deal, whether Innocent X agrees or not, it is impossible to make a decision in such a short period of time, and he is now entangled with him on this topic, the biggest possibility is to scare Innocent away and mess things up, although it is not a big deal to mess up.
As for now, it is better to talk about the war situation in Europe first, after all, as a responsible big country, the Ming Dynasty has the responsibility to contribute to the stability of the world, right?
Innocent's heart also breathed a sigh of relief.
Before coming to see Emperor Chongzhen in advance, the Holy See had already made countless plans, and also imagined the questions that Emperor Chongzhen might raise, but no matter which plan it was, he did not expect that Emperor Chongzhen would play his cards so unconventionally.
After being disrupted by Emperor Chongzhen's train of thought, even if he was extremely eager to get Emperor Chongzhen's promise to allow him to preach, Innocent X did not raise any more questions about preaching to the Ming Dynasty, for fear that Emperor Chongzhen would pull out something more exciting.
Now that Emperor Chongzhen has taken the initiative to turn the topic to the European war situation, it is also an excellent opportunity for Innocent X.
A pope who doesn't want to be an emperor is not a good pope, and Innocent X has long been dissatisfied with the present in Europe - think about how Gregory VII treated Henry IV back then?
What an honor it is for a worldly king to kneel for three days in the snow and ice?
Although Gregory's fate was not very good later, but after all, people have been awesome, how can they be like themselves now, they have to be careful to sell a indulgence, if it weren't for the chaos in Europe now, they wouldn't dare to sell it!
After settling down, Innocent spoke: "As His Majesty the Emperor said, Europe is now in chaos, and it is not a good thing for anyone, and it is the common people who suffer in the end. Therefore, it is better to end the war as soon as possible, or to tie the knot as soon as possible. ”
Emperor Chongzhen nodded and said: "The current situation, presumably the Pope also knows, all countries are going to war, and a real fire has been fought, and no one can easily stop." At this point, a powerful force is needed to force countries to stop. ”
Innocent suddenly became even more confused.
The main culprit who provoked the war in Europe was the Ming Empire, and the person directly responsible was Emperor Chongzhen, and now he suddenly said that he wanted to stop the wars of various countries?
Daming doesn't need slaves anymore? Or is the arms business not profitable? And what is the powerful power that Emperor Chongzhen said? Is the Ming Empire ready to end up in person?
If the Ming Empire personally intervenes in the battlefield in Europe, it is better to continue to let Europe go on in chaos, anyway, they are all the original vassal states, if the Ming Dynasty also personally participates, who knows what the final direction will be?
Fortunately, Emperor Chongzhen did not intend to continue to play any dumb riddles, but said straight to the point: "I think that the Holy Roman Empire and the Holy See, as a regional power and religion in Europe, should bear this responsibility. ”
The full name of the Holy Roman Empire is the Holy Roman Empire of the German nation, and Pope John XII crowned him as "Roman Emperor" in St. Peter's Basilica in Rome in order to thank King Otto I of Germany for his protection, recognizing him as the heir of the Western Roman Emperor, and the Holy Roman Empire was established.
In addition, the Emperor and the Pope signed the "Ottonian Privilege Agreement", which stipulated that the Emperor was the patron of the Pope, that the Pope was to be loyal to the Emperor, and that the selection of the Pope was to be decided by the Emperor. This initially brought the imperial power above the clerical power, and also opened the prelude to the struggle between the pope and the emperor that lasted for centuries.
Now Innocent X and Ferdinand III also faced this problem, although they were friendly forces under the terms of the "Otto Privilege Agreement", but in fact they belonged to the kind of relationship that longed for the death of the other.
Now that Emperor Chongzhen suddenly mentioned the Holy Roman Empire and the Holy See, what are the meanings in it? Are you going to support yourself or Ferdinand III?
Or, Emperor Chongzhen meant to let the two of them each pull up a team, and then fight with real swords and guns, so as to decide who is the final European hegemon?
If this is the case, then there is still a bit of capital under his hands - although the army directly under his command is a bit, but after the training of the Ming military instructors, it can be regarded as a little improved.
Not to mention, there are several countries that are loyal to the Holy See, which gives them a lot of room to operate.
If Emperor Chongzhen knew what Innocent X was thinking, he would probably laugh out loud with a pig's cry.
It is still possible to support Ferdinand III, after all, it can be regarded as a family of children, especially Ferdinand III also promised Bavaria to the third Zhu Cixie, and the entire Holy Roman Empire will be Ming sooner or later.
But what the hell is Innocent who supports you? Let the Holy See unite the church and government again, and then unify Europe and enjoy immortal blessings forever? Then you might as well take a few more mouthfuls of Fushou cream!
Judging from the current situation, a divided Europe is obviously more in the interests of the Ming Dynasty, and a weak and even hostile Holy See by all Europeans is a good Holy See!
After pondering for a long time, Emperor Chongzhen spoke: "My meaning is very simple, I will let the Northern Industries Group and the Southern Industries Group increase the production of arms, and then supply them to the Holy Roman Empire and the Holy See, hoping that you can calm down Europe in the shortest possible time." ”
Innocent is again in an endless tangle.
Emperor Chongzhen's meaning is obvious, export a larger amount of arms to the Holy Roman Empire and the Holy See, and then borrow the hands of the two families to make Europe a wave of chaos, and finally let his own two families calm the war in Europe.
It is an indisputable fact that the greatest benefit will definitely be taken by the Ming Dynasty, and the Holy Roman Empire and the Holy See can also get a lot of benefits from it.
And what about Europe? War and death are powerful for the spread of religion, but for ordinary civilians, they are definitely not a good thing.
Innocent X, who is known as the most inactive of all popes, is indeed not a suitable candidate for pope in some respects, and the fatal weakness of indecision determines that Innocent X is a good man, not a good pope.
Like now, is it a promise? Or rejection?