Listening to Governor Lu's words, Yang Lian's face showed a solemn expression, he raised his head to look at Governor Lu's calm eyes, sighed and said, "Lord Lu can say this shows that Lord Lu is a person with a heart and a person who does things wholeheartedly. To tell the truth, Lord Lu said that over the past six months or so, the Metropolitan Procuratorate has conducted many investigations and discussions on the issue of supervision of officials, but it has not been able to come up with a safe solution. The latest free chapters of the book can be found here. The person who supervised the person mentioned by Master Lu has also been discussed many times in the Metropolitan Procuratorate, but they have not dared to let it go and use it yet. ”

Governor Lu nodded and asked, "What does the Metropolitan Procuratorate think?" ”

Yang Lian said: "After summarizing all the violations in the country, the Metropolitan Procuratorate found that it is not that the laws in Daming are not enough and not strict enough, on the contrary, many laws are too strict and too trivial. The Da Ming Law has been around for hundreds of years, and many legal provisions are no longer suitable, but Taizu has strictly ordered that no one is allowed to modify it without authorization, and whoever proposes to revise it will be guilty of rebellion, which has become a forbidden area that no one dares to touch. Since these strict laws cannot be moved, they can only be used flexibly when they are enforced, and if the overseers are to be strictly supervised, it means that they cannot be used flexibly and can only be used with one nail and one eye, which is unthinkable. ”

Governor Lu secretly sneered in his heart after listening to Yang Lian's explanation, and said in his heart that these nerds are really too pedantic, so he whispered: "Since Lord Yang admits that the current implementation of the law is being used flexibly, then why not distinguish it?" In other words, it is necessary to distinguish between specific affairs, which need to be used flexibly and which must not be touched at all. For example, in the case of economic examination, since the emperor attaches more importance to the economic examination system than to the imperial examination system, he should use the second-level supervision method in the matter of economic examination to avoid the occurrence of private accommodation between the supervisor and the supervised. ”

Yang Lian nodded and said, "What Lord Lu said is true, but in fact it can't be done, at least not at present." One reason why it can't be done now is that there are too many things and there are not so many people available to do this kind of thing, and the second reason is that this itself is a big circle, and it is better to directly modify the Da Ming Law to be direct and simple, but who dares to say this? The third reason is that it is easy to have problems, the reason why the imperial court wants to use the law to govern the country is that there is no need for people to deal with affairs according to their own likes and dislikes, and if all affairs are to be divided, they are afraid that someone will put their opinions above the law. ”

Governor Lu thought for a while and said with a smile: "Actually, we can look at it this way, whether it is to revise the Da Ming Law or make other changes, this thing must always be done. It is better to stipulate in advance that everyone has a number in their hearts in order to be fair, than to let the executor get up and ♀ down in the process of implementation, although there are many things in the world, but they can be done one by one, and one less is not necessarily done at one time. And it can be said that many things are related to each other, and doing one thing well may be able to solve another thing, or at least give it reference value when solving another thing. ”

Yang Lian's heart moved when he heard Governor Lu's words, and he thought for a while and said, "Lord Lu is worthy of being a senior, can you elaborate on Gao Jian?" ”

Governor Lu shook his hand and said: "There is no high opinion, it's just that he has grown a few years older in the lower idiot, and he has done a comparison in the court and in the local government. Identify the main key points and start doing it as soon as possible to avoid things going bad, and then sit down and think about the rest. Just like if there is a problem in this economic review, it is right to lock up the people concerned first, and the others will naturally be afraid to do things honestly, otherwise there will be more and more people who violate the law, and it will be troublesome. ”

Yang Lian nodded and said: "Yes, if there are many criminals, it is a situation where the law does not blame the public, unless Taizu is resurrected and kills as many as he wants, otherwise it is really difficult to do." Master Lu began to say that there is any specific way to strictly supervise the people in charge of supervision? For example, under what provisions will be supervised? Who makes this provision? How can we prevent two overseers from violating each other's laws and accommodating each other for personal gain? ”

Governor Lu thought for a moment and said, "It is impossible to completely avoid favoritism, and it can only be said that the number of favoritism should be reduced. In the following way, if Zhang San is allowed to supervise a group of people according to a certain system, it is regarded as a first-level supervision, if there are Zhang San's relatives and friends in this group, he will show favoritism, and if the favoritism may account for 30% of the 10%, 30% of the affairs will be affected because Zhang San's supervision is not in place. In addition, if Li Si is called to specialize in supervising Zhang San and other supervisors, it is also a second-level supervision, and it is also possible that 30% of the supervisors who engage in favoritism will occupy 30 percent, and 33 will see 9, that is to say, under Li Si's second-level supervision, Zhang San's favoritism may not be 10 percent. ”

Yang Lian thought for a while and said: "Lord Lu means that he does not seek to completely eliminate favoritism, but only wants this phenomenon to become less and less, which reminds me of what the emperor said when formulating the economic inspection system. The emperor said that it is inevitable that officials will intentionally or unintentionally take property that they should not take, and that anyone who wants to completely eradicate corruption is asking for their own suffering, and the economic inspection system is to give officials who have accidentally made mistakes a chance to correct their mistakes. Lord Lu's second-level superintendent suggested that his thinking was similar to that of the emperor in stopping corruption, and that it should be feasible to a certain extent. ”

Governor Lu was surprised when he heard this, and asked, "Did the emperor really say that?" ”

Yang Lian said: "How could I lie to you? At that time, I couldn't figure it out, and I couldn't wait to take a few guillotines to kill all the corrupt officials in the world like Bao Longtu, but now it seems that I am indeed a little arrogant. Lord Lu's ideas will be reported to the Prison Yuan after returning to the capital, and if possible, he will ask Lord Lu for advice. ”

Governor Lu said: "Lord Yang is polite, and I will definitely help if necessary." What are you going to do now? Were those locked up released or were they escorted back to Beijing by Lord Yang to be convicted? ”

Yang Lian shook his head and said, "It's not my duty to escort them, I'm just here to find out the truth." Now that there is a shortage of people, we can't let them lie aside and enjoy Qingfu, and tell them to do their own things and wait for the notice from the capital, and they can't run anyway. Lord Lu will call all the relevant personnel to come over tomorrow for me to see, and I will carefully inquire about the specific thoughts and specific reasons, and we will return to Beijing together after the two of them have finished their work. ”

Governor Lu sighed and said: "Under is the governor of Shaanxi, the military affairs and government affairs here have to be managed÷ west is located in the northwest border, Warat, Tatar, and Uszang are all eyeing the tiger, the border army has been abandoned for a long time to restore the combat strength is not an overnight effort, I am afraid that the two special envoys of the Military Affairs Yuan will be disappointed ☆ Your Excellency can take a look around after asking tomorrow, and by the way, taste the local products of Shaanxi." ”

Yang Lian saw that Governor Lu was not in a good mood, and said, "Lord Lu, I didn't know you very well before, but I have learned a lot from talking with you this time. Although I don't understand military affairs, I also know that the Ming army has been weak for a long time, and Lord Lu has superhuman ability and no good strategy? ”

Governor Lu looked at Yang Lian and said, "In fact, the problems encountered in military affairs and government affairs are the same, they are all short of people. There were no available people in the matter of economic inspection, so he had to bring in the prison guards who were originally intended for use in the army, but Lord Yang also saw what the roles of these people were, and it was estimated that sending them to the army would not be of great use. At present, the emperor's big iron company has stationed personnel in various provinces to prepare for mining and road construction, and all counties need people to cooperate, so that the army, all prefectures and counties, and all supervision departments will lack available personnel, and this is not something that can be done at the bottom. ”

Yang Lian thought for a while and said: "At the earliest last year, the emperor asked me to summon 200 people as pre-election officers, and after training for half a year, it was also very useful to send them to various places to preside over immigration and other affairs, and later sent to several military regions such as the front line in Liaodong to supervise the army. ”

In the afternoon of the next day, after lunch, Yang Lian received a report from the guards that an official from the Shaanxi Governor's Mansion had asked to see him, and Yang Lian knew that those who had made mistakes had been brought in, so he ordered someone to invite them in. After a while, I saw a blue-robed official walking in with a few depressed people, and the blue-robed official said: "Lord Yang, here are the Governor Governor's Dispatch, these are the criminals who have destroyed the emperor's economic inspection system this time, please send them down." ”

Yang Lian nodded to indicate that he knew, and ordered someone to send him out, secretly amusing in his heart☆ Lian Xin said that Governor Lu's courage was still not big enough, and he said that he could let these people go out to do things, and he also sent someone to say that these people were criminals and let him fall, it seems that he is also afraid that something will happen to him, and he will not be able to explain. Thinking of this, Yang Lian turned to a few people and said, "At first, the one didn't make it clear, and before you figured out the real reason, you just made a mistake, and you are not a criminal who committed a crime." But no matter what the reason, you can tell the truth, and if there is a mistake in the future, you can give him the opportunity to correct his mistake, and even if he commits a sin, he can also be punished, you understand? ”

Several people hurriedly nodded and said, "Understood, understood!" ”

One of them said: "Lord Yang doesn't know, we are at fault for this time, but we can't blame all of us, we just came and didn't know the rules, we just thought it was going through the motions☆ Earlier he said that he was going to send us to the army to supervise the army, saying that anyone who is willing to go can be promoted to two levels, and Lord Yang should know that the promotion of two levels of official status means that the number of people will increase a lot, and we all agreed." Later, he said that we should take over the internal security to inspect other people's family property, which is a bit rusty and difficult to grasp the importance, we think that there is no need to be too strict with colleagues, and it is not easy for everyone to be very hard now, especially in a poor place like Shaanxi, there is no need to do too much. ”

Yang Lian sneered: "So you take the orders of the imperial court as child's play? Do you know what happens if something like this happens to you? ”