Hearing Fan Zhen say this, Ma Yun breathed a sigh of relief, although he didn't think that Fan Zhen was a person like Tuoba Heng who admitted death, but if Fan Zhen didn't agree, Ma Yun wouldn't be able to make things too stiff.

At that moment, Ma Yun asked with a straight face: "Mr. Fan, please speak, as long as Xiao Wang can do it, he will naturally agree." ”

Fan Zhen pondered for a while, and said slowly: "Since the late Tang Dynasty, the martial arts have been in power, the feudal towns have been divided, the world has been in turmoil, the scholars have been oppressed, the local morality has been degraded, and the emperor is recognized as the father. This is the first, in the next ask the prince to respect Confucianism, use scholars, abide by the way of sages, build schools, and implement the style of education, then the people of insight in the world will be cast in a hurry, and when the time is ripe, 'respect Confucius and thieves', and do benevolence and righteousness in the world. ”

This passage is half-literate and half-white, and Ma Yun has heard a rough idea, but he still thinks that what Fan Zhen said is quite right. So Ma Yun nodded and said, "This one, Xiao Wang promised you." ”

Fan Zhen took a sip of tea and continued: "Today, there are strong Khitan enemies coveted outside, and the feudal towns are dripping inside, and the Great Jin Dynasty is good at opening border provocations and angering the Khitan. Please ask the prince to practice the style of benevolence, learn the belly of Yao Shun, do not love money, do not be extravagant, do not make the world for one person, open the way of speech, be good at admonishment, even if what is not right, do not introduce sinners. The appointment of talents does not matter the background. ”

Ma Yun understood this passage, that is, he persuaded himself to be thrifty and good at employing people. Ma Yun peeked at Zhao Pu and Li Xiang again, and saw that they were also nodding, so he nodded again.

Fan Zhen continued: "The root cause of today's turmoil can be said to have originated from the fact that Tang Xuanzong set up a festival envoy, and the money, grain, supervision, and jurisdiction powers were all in his hands, and there was no moderation. Among them, the festival envoys are often martial artists, and they are even more incorruptible and shameless, poisoning the people and oppressing the monarch's father. In the future, I asked the prince to remove the military officials from their posts, put the civil officials in the army, and supervise the army, and the civilian officials are in charge of the Privy Council, responsible for the assessment of the promotion of military generals, and the money and food of the army should also be responsible for the imperial court. ”

Ma Yun was a little stunned when he heard this, Fan Zhen's words reminded him of his brother-in-law's famous "cup of wine to release military power", Zhao Kuangyin seemed to do this in the early Song Dynasty, of course, in the early Song Dynasty, there was nothing wrong with this policy, after all, Wufu has been in chaos for one or two hundred years (counting from the Anshi Rebellion), and proper moderation of military generals is also a due duty, but later the Song Dynasty did a little too much.

Before Ma Yun could speak, he saw Li Xiang and said, "Mr. Fan's words, I feel that something is inappropriate. ”

As soon as these words fell, the remaining four people in the room all looked at Li Xiang. Wu Ban was slightly stunned, Fan Zhen was surprised, Zhao Pu was expressionless, but Ma Yun had a trace of joy in his heart.

Li Xiang said: "When there is turmoil today, 'respecting Kong and Ping thieves' depends on the bloody battle of the officers and men of the whole army. ”

Fan Zhen sneered and said: "If the promotion of military generals is not strictly assessed, then even if the world is leveled, it is not the same feudal town division, but the name of the person who changed the territory has changed." In that case, why does the prince need to sweep the world? In the next or that view, we must control the generals. “

Li Xiang didn't give in at all, and said: "Moderation naturally requires moderation, but it is not your method of moderation, you will not only dampen the morale of the soldiers to forge ahead, but also lead to civilian officials exceeding their authority to command the battle, and Zhao Kuo's matter is inevitable." ”

Fan Zhen's momentum seemed to be suffocated, he sat aside angrily, no longer spoke, just looked at Ma Yun with his eyes, Ma Yun smiled indifferently, and said: "Two gentlemen, what you said makes sense, if in the future... Xiao Wang must be abolished for the position of envoy of this section, but the army maintains a certain combat effectiveness, which is the basic guarantee for the stability of the country, and it is not beneficial to weaken the generals too much. After all, before Xuanzong, the ** team was basically invincible, and at that time, it was not necessary to demote the generals to the end. Since we want to respect Confucianism, it is better to refer to the Han Dynasty, the Tang Dynasty, and the jurisdiction and law enforcement of military generals in all dynasties. In short, we must respect Confucianism and have a law to follow. We will do what the saints do. Mr. Fan, what do you think? ”

Fan Zhen blinked, Ma Yun's words were mixed and circular, only saying that he wanted to abolish the envoys, but he didn't say much about restraining the generals, and finally came to the sentence: What the saint does, we will do. Confucius ruled Lu, the road was not left behind, and the night was not closed, it was very famous, and Confucius had never heard of governing the army.

Zhao Pu next to him said: "Lord Shengming, the benevolent governs the country and pays attention to benevolence, righteousness, courtesy, wisdom, and faith, and the army pays attention to wisdom, faith, benevolence, bravery, and strictness, which should be the case." ”

"Benevolence, righteousness, courtesy, wisdom, and faith", the "five constants" of human life, were put forward by Dong Zhongshu, a Confucian master in the Han Dynasty; "Wisdom, faith, benevolence, courage, and strictness" are the "five virtues" of the general, which were put forward by the grandson of the soldier saint. If governing the country and the army can really be like this, it is really ignorance. At that moment, Fan Zhen nodded and recognized Ma Yun and Zhao Pu's words.

In fact, Zhao Pu's words were confusing, Ma Yun just mixed up the question, Zhao Pu seemed to be answering this question anew, and the answer was very clear, very clear, very classic, but it was a typical answer that was not asked. Fan Zhen actually recognized it like this, which made Ma Yun happy.

Fan Zhen paused, and then said: "There is one last one, although I am not talented in the next place, and the knowledge articles are not enough to practice, but Yuezhou, a hundred miles of land, does not need to be managed in the next place, if the prince can get four or five states within three months, then he will be the liver and brain in the next place, and the spring will reciprocate." Otherwise, please promise freedom under the prince. ”

As soon as these words fell, Ma Yun, Zhao Pu and others were stunned, one, two, three, put forward so many conditions, Ma Yun also agreed one by one, and he was about to raise a glass to celebrate: the cooperation was happy. In the end, Fan Zhen came to such a piece, and he just said it for a long time, but it was all in vain.

At this time, Li Xiang and Zhao Pu were a little unhappy on their faces, but Ma Yun smiled and said, "Xiao Wang, promise Mr. this." Ma Yunxin said: Brother-in-law, you can't say that I won't help you.