293 Unity of Knowledge and Action (II)
As soon as Gao Panlong's words came out, everyone felt that it seemed to be like that, it was also an auxiliary political department, why were the local departments so much worse than the central departments in Beijing? Although the quality of local personnel is lower, the affairs they encounter are also much smaller and far less, so how can they accidentally handle general affairs into special affairs? Even if their ability is lacking, those supervisors are all former alternate officials and imperial historians in the Metropolitan Procuratorate, usually when it comes to the concept of governing the country, they are all talking about lotus flowers, and their heads are the way, they won't all be Ma Yan-like characters, they will only speak well, and they will be helpless when they encounter real affairs, right?
Apocalypse said: "From the beginning, I felt that this problem had something in common with the problem we were going to discuss, so we made it clear what we said at the beginning, and we will solve it wherever there is a problem. The latest free chapters of the book can be found here. ”
Liu Zongzhou asked: "How is the emperor going to divide it?" ”
Apocalypse said: "As I have just said, the ownership of the state is divided into three parts, which can be divided into past, present, and future according to time, and the rights of people in these three periods must be embodied in the present people, so there must be three different groups of people to represent these three parts of people, and the different representatives representing the three kinds of people must also play a role in governing the country." For example, there are people from the Holy Academy, there are people from the Doctoral Academy, and there are also people from the Metropolitan Procuratorate and the Government Council, and the people in the Holy Academy are all experienced veterans, and the people in the Doctoral Academy can discover or invent new things, and they can represent the past and the future. ”
Everyone nodded when they heard the apocalypse, thinking that this made sense, the people of the past did not have to say that they were dead, as long as they left the main post can be counted, and the people of the future do not necessarily have to refer to the fact that they have not been born, as long as they have not become the protagonists of governing the country but will eventually come, they can also be regarded as the people of the future. Who knew that later people found out that the outdated ministers were experienced, and the scholars were not all crooked.
Needless to say, there are other calendars and arithmetic, just say that the drought-tolerant and high-yield varieties that Xu Guangqi has developed have solved the problem of many people being hungry, and the grenades and new cannons jointly developed by Ni Yuanlu and the people in the Bo Academy have made the Ming army, which feels endless pressure in the direction of Liaodong, feel confident and proud. In terms of government affairs and governance, the Holy College and the Doctoral College also have a lot of suggestions, to avoid unnecessary conflicts between officials due to poor communication, sometimes experience is very useful, and the theories summarized from books are also very useful, and experience plus theory is even more perfect.
Liu Zongzhou asked: "The emperor's division of the Holy Academy represents the past, and the Bo Academy represents the future, so do the Government Council and the Metropolitan Procuratorate represent the present?" ”
Tianqi thought for a while and said: "I'm afraid I can't say that, I also said at the beginning that the ownership is divided into parts, but the governance power cannot be divided indiscriminately, and the different representatives representing the three kinds of people must play a role in governing the country, but it does not mean that they must preside over government affairs." Governing the country can generally be divided into two things, one is to govern things and the other is to govern people, this governance is to manage government affairs, that is, to manage officials, the government affairs Yuan and the Metropolitan Procuratorate are mostly listening to opinions rather than expressing opinions in the Supervision Yuan, do you think about it? ”
King Xin said at this time: "Brother Huang is right, after Brother Huang put aside government affairs, his brother was indeed a little nervous at first, but after having the Prison Yuan, his heart is much more steady. Whether it is a matter of the Government Council or the Metropolitan Procuratorate, after discussing it with a few people here, the final conclusion is generally feasible. ”
Seeing that King Xin said this and Gao Panlong couldn't help nodding, Tianqi said: "Since the Government Council and the Metropolitan Procuratorate rarely express their opinions in the Supervision Yuan to listen to opinions, can it be said that there is still a lack of some people to assist in government affairs on behalf of the current people?" ”
Liu Zongzhou asked: "The emperor thinks that the ministers and Lord Xu cannot represent the current people?" ”
Apocalypse said: "Of course not, anyone who has the approval of the majority can represent the present people, the problem is that if you represent one type of people, you cannot represent another type of people." For example, two people are competing, just like the previous sports meeting, you chase me, if you ask Lord Liu to represent one side, you can do it, but if you want to represent two or three parties, can you compete with yourself? ”
Liu Zongzhou was silent when he heard this, Gao Panlong nodded and said: "Yes, the three representatives of the three parts of the people are together, and they must try their best to fight for the rights and interests of the party they represent, otherwise others will not want you to represent." If one person represents several parties, it is inevitable that they will think about how to balance, and the consideration of balance should not be a matter for the representative to consider, but for the adjudicator. ”
Apocalypse said: "This also answers the original question of King Xin, what should I do after the power is relinquished, I think I am suitable to be the person who adjudicates this sentence, and I am only worthy of being the person who adjudicates this ∞ I am in the deep palace and cannot communicate with the people in person from time to time, I can't represent the people of the present, and the people who represent the past and the future do not have so much experience and knowledge, and I have to let the Holy Academy and the Bo Academy assist me in doing things." I don't have the time and patience to manage government affairs and officials, and I need the assistance of the Government Council and the Metropolitan Procuratorate, but I can work together with everyone, put different people in the right position, and make everyone work together. ”
Gao Panlong asked: "According to the emperor, the central government is like this, and the local government should be like this, whether it is the chief official or the supervisor at the local level, it cannot represent the people of the present, and the people of the local auxiliary departments can at most represent the people of the past and the people of the future, is this also the reason for the problem?" In this case, who should represent the present people? ”
Apocalypse said: "It's true, we really still lack some people to represent the people now, and that's why there are problems everywhere. ”
Gao Panlong said: "The minister didn't understand this, or the beginning of the sentence, why can the central auxiliary departments do well, but the local auxiliary departments can't do well?" Even if the auxiliary government department has no experience, how can those supervisors who are usually eloquent and those who used to be well-versed in everything suddenly know nothing? Could it be that there are too many people who can't do things? ”
Tianqi said: "I don't know what the specific reason is, I believe you can't understand it across the mountains and rivers, but I guess maybe the person who responds is different." If you think about it, the affairs you have to deal with in Beijing are all in front of some officials, and these officials will directly say what they have to say and ask for when they arrive in Beijing, and even if they are not satisfied with something, they can express it euphemistically. Locally, it is different, they meet mostly ordinary people, who have not read any books and are not very reasonable, but only know how to make demands according to their own ideas, and if their demands cannot be met once or twice countless times, they will definitely vent their grievances. ”
Gao Panlong said: "It seems that local officials, especially auxiliary political officials, have to learn more about the people's situation, and only by knowing what the people need can they handle things better." ”
Tianqi thought for a while and said, "Maybe there is no need to be so troublesome, didn't you say at the beginning that there is a lack of some people to represent the current people?" Nowadays, there are tens of thousands of people who cannot be represented by a single person, and the so-called unspeakable truth is ∞ wonder if it is possible to add some people to each auxiliary department, these people must be elected by the local people, they are only responsible for expressing the real needs of the people, and if the people have dissatisfaction, they can also go to solve it. For the people, the people they choose must be people they trust, and it is certainly better for them to explain them than for a living person to do such a thing. ”
Liu Zongzhou said: "The emperor's mention reminded the ministers of the conversation two years ago, and whether it was correct for the emperor and the ministers to discuss a matter at that time when there were many people who agreed, and it is not known what the conclusion was. If the emperor really wants the people to elect some people to represent them, it is necessary to use the form of the minority obeying the majority to elect the deputies, and the method of the minority obeying the majority must be correct? Or is it that the emperor has recognized that the people elected by the minority and obeying the majority must be correct and competent? ”
Apocalypse shook his head and said, "Until now, I still have that view, the people or things that are elected by the minority in the form of obeying the majority may not be correct, but the people elected in this way will definitely be trusted by the majority. As long as you get the trust of the majority of people, even if you fail, it won't have much impact, because everyone can bear it, and it is impossible for a person to see in advance whether this person is capable of doing it, and it is impossible to directly choose the most suitable one, just like a gamble, but people are chosen by themselves, even if this person loses in the end, everyone will be willing to gamble and lose. ”
Xu Guangqi didn't speak for a long time, and when he heard Tianqi say this, he also said: "The minister's opinion on the emperor has a certain amount of truth, and the main reason for discussing here now is that we are afraid of loopholes, if we really need the people to choose some people to represent them, then you can give it a try." When trying to test new varieties, Xiangchen did not start to roll out in an all-round way, but found one or two places to conduct experiments first, and when there was a certain effect, it was popularized on a large scale. ”
Tianqi said: "Lord Xu, this is the old way to take care of it, and it is also a method that has been verified after testing, I think that it can be said that the content has yet to be tested, but this method of first small-scale testing and then large-scale promotion has been tested and successful, so I have confidence that you should also have confidence." ”