Chapter 129: Taixue Debate (2)

"In the next study, Fang Teng, the time has come, and today's debate will begin immediately." The Tai students who were standing in the field suddenly spoke, and the Tai students who were sitting around and the outsiders who came in to watch suddenly quieted down.

Scholar Fang Teng glanced around, saw that no one spoke, and then said: "I and other students have not been able to confer officials, and we need to take the provincial examination in the early spring of next year." The first two times have been respectively debated on the meaning of the scriptures and the arguments on poetry, and today we are going to carry out the discussion of the policies. As in the previous debate, participants in the debate also voluntarily signed up and appeared at any time, with two people on one topic, discussing first and then discussing, each topic lasted half an hour, and there was no limit to the number of participants. Can you have any objections? ”

No one on the field objected, but someone urged them to start quickly.

Fang Teng immediately announced: "The first question, in a county, in a disaster year, there are many displaced people, how to appease?" The debate begins! Then he stepped back.

As soon as the words fell, a student got up, saluted everyone, and announced to his home in a loud voice: "Dou Chun in Xiachuzhou." Then he sat down, picked up the pen and put the pen on the paper.

Immediately, another student stepped forward, and after saluting everyone, he also reported to his home: "Xu Yao in Xiaguang." After reporting his name, he immediately sat down, picked up the pen, thought for a while, and then put down the pen.

After a while, the two of them put away their pens and finished their decisions.

Dou Chun smiled: "Brother Xu, please." ”

Xu Yao excused himself and said, "Brother Dou, please first." ”

Dou Chun said: "Okay, then I'll sacrifice the ugly first." ”

Xu Yao said "please", and saw Dou Chun pick up the paper on the table, show it to everyone, and said loudly: "Give food to calm the hearts of the people, and restore agriculture and mulberry on credit." ”

Then he put down the paper and said: "In the land of a county, there are no more than 100,000 people, no more than five households, the land is far and near, people are rich and poor, rich households have surplus grain in good years, they can also live in disaster years, and the poor can live in good years. Therefore, in the year of disaster, the surplus grain of the government treasury should be quickly mobilized and widely already, so that the victims of the disaster will not wander around and stay away from their homeland. The water and soil grow grass, the duckweed is difficult to satisfy hunger, and the victims do not leave their hometowns, so there is hope for the recovery of agriculture and mulberry. In a disaster year, the poor have little overnight food, and there is no seed for the coming year, and the heart will be uneasy. Therefore, in the year of disaster, we should focus on providing food to calm the hearts of the people, and the root is to restore agriculture and mulberry with luxury money. ”

When he had finished speaking, he bowed to the crowd and sat down.

Xu Yao got up, picked up his inscription paper and showed it to everyone, and said loudly: "Plant mulberry brocade and go back to Yi's place." ”

Put down the inscription, and then argued: "There are many people, the land is fat and thin, the large fields are many and wide, the harvest year is worry-free, the poor and small households have no one-third of an acre of land, there is no square inch of foothold, it is difficult to take care of food and clothing in the harvest year, and the disaster year is also a homeless person, and the root is in the poor and there is no land." Regardless of the harvest year, all the fields in a county need to be planted mulberry trees, silkworm spinning, the home of the landless poor can be turned into a weaver dyeer, the rich can rent to pay the wages, the government can also rent all the year round, weave silk brocade, you can return to the exchange for money and grain, the landless in addition to the craftsman, can also organize to participate in the return to the trade, the land is divided into the north and south, everything is different, a brocade in the south of the Yangtze River can be sold for fifty yuan, the ocean can be exchanged for more than 100 yuan, and the silver money obtained from the return can buy grain. In the land of a county, there is grass in the fertile land, and there is mulberry in the thin land, and the poor are weavers or participate in the return to the trade, do not farm the fields, get wages, and have no impact on the harvest and disaster years. Therefore, in the land of a county, for the officials to prepare as soon as possible, widely plant mulberry trees, agriculture and mulberry are mutually beneficial, the rich and the poor depend on each other, supplemented by the return to Yi, then there are no displaced people in the disaster year. ”

As soon as Xu Yaofang sat down, he listened to Dou Chun say: "Brother Xu planted mulberry trees and returned to the theory that it is easy to get rich, I don't agree with it." Planting mulberry trees will inevitably occupy farmland, affect the grain harvest, and the people will be uneasy without food, and the country will be unstable without food, which is a policy that will cause chaos. Moreover, Brother Xu said, a brocade in the south of the Yangtze River costs 50 yuan, and you will get 100 yuan when you go to sea, so lucrative and tempting, how can the people have the heart to concentrate on farming, if they all plant mulberry brocade and go to sea to return to Yi, even if they earn more money, they can't buy food, and they will be displaced everywhere, causing chaos in the world. Those who are in power should pay attention to agricultural affairs, return easily, and do not use profit to lure the people away from the land, otherwise the people will move around and it will be inconvenient to manage. In addition, the officials confuse the people with profits, and the people are the interests, and the kings do not see them, and the businessmen are all mercenary, regardless of morality and shame, and in the long run, the people will no longer be simple, and they will make small profits everywhere, which will make the people uneasy. If the people are uneasy, the world will be chaotic, and if the county is not governed, the country will not be governed. Brother Xu should be cautious in his words and deeds. ”

Xu Yao immediately retorted: "Brother Dou's words are wrong. The land of the east and west of the Great Song Dynasty is more than thousands of miles, the rivers are vertical and horizontal, the mountains are towering, the language of Wu Di Chu is incomprehensible, the north and the south have different native sounds, there is snow in Lin'an winter, and there is no cold winter in the south. The land of the world is different, there is winter wheat in the north, there is spring grass in the south, there are trees in the mountains, there are fish in the rivers, spring, summer, autumn and winter all year round, thin shirts in summer, cotton jackets in winter, two meals a day, porridge in the morning, dinner and dinner, lychees in summer and dates in autumn, rivers and lakes and fish leap over the mountains and cattle and sheep run, the people are tens of millions, the food, clothing, housing and transportation are different in the north, the south, the west, and the east, some people rely on the river, some people eat the mountains, some people plant mulberry, some people plough the fields, all things are interdependent, they are interdependent, paddy fields are cultivated, the dry land is mulberry, the land is planted when they are busy, they are weaving and spinning when they are busy, three hundred and sixty lines, each has their own leisure, supplemented by returning to Yi, The country is rich and the people are strong. ”

When the words stopped, they won the applause of the crowd.

Xu Yao asked again: "What do you think of this theory, Brother Dou?" But there are still deficiencies to be added below? ”

Dou Chun replied: "Brother Xu's strategy is not easy, I'm afraid it will be difficult. ”

Xu Yao said with a smile: "Those in power should take policies that benefit the people, and they should overcome all difficulties until they succeed." If we only seek simplicity, only treat the surface, not the inside, this year's problems will appear in the next year. Brother Dou just said, in the year of the disaster, the people will be relieved of the people's hearts, and the money will be restored to agriculture, I would like to ask Brother Dou, where does the grain come from, how much surplus grain is in the county treasury, how many months do the victims need to be relieved? ”

Dou Chun said: "The disaster victims can live by half a catty of grain, even if the disaster is serious, there are 10,000 disaster victims in the county, the daily ration is only 50 quintals, and the monthly ration is only 1,500 quintals, and the county with a population of 80,000 people can collect no less than 20,000 quintals of grain in a year, and the relief for half a year is more than enough. ”

Xu Yao asked again: "The government stocks grain owned by the imperial court, reporting disasters and disaster relief, it takes time, where there is a famine, there will be a disaster, even if the people in power are kind-hearted, and the treasury is opened to help the victims, but the distribution of disaster grain will inevitably go through the hands of corrupt officials and corrupt officials, and when the time comes, it is said that it is a day and a half catties of grain, and it is not easy to get to the mouths of the victims to have two taels, and two taels of grain to drink porridge can not be full, how can you rest assured?" What's more, even in a good year, the government treasury will not have enough grain to help the victims for three months, let alone half a year, how can it help tens of thousands of victims? ”

Dou Chun said: "Brother Xu can't agree with this, as an official and a politician, he reads the books of the sages and sages, and is taught by the sages, so he will be the people of the peace side, valuing fame over profit, corruption and exploitation of the rations of the victims should not happen, as long as the yamen officials are strictly disciplined, they can also put an end to taking advantage of the opportunity to withhold, and keep the daily rations of the victims half a catty, which should be able to calm the hearts of the people." Even if it is insufficient, it can be reported to the state government and ask the imperial court to allocate disaster relief, as long as the disaster victims are not kept away from the land and the displaced people cannot afford it, they can farm and survive in the coming year. ”

Xu Yao said: "Okay, whether the disaster relief money and food are enough or not, it doesn't matter for the time being." Speaking of the restoration of agriculture and mulberry, the victims have no money to spare, and if they borrow on credit in the coming year, who will they borrow on credit, the government or the rich households? How do I return my loan on credit? How will the victims survive while the crops have not yet turned into food, and what if some of them are hungry and eat the grain? ”

Dou Chun replied: "The victims can borrow credit from the government and wealthy households, use the crops of the season as collateral, and the grain collected in the season can be repaid. Before the crops are ripe, the victims can also borrow grain from the wealthy households or the government, and since they have already borrowed grain seeds, they must urge the victims to grow good food. If some people borrow grain and do not grow it, it is difficult to return it, and the government can directly take them into custody to deter them. If various measures are implemented together, we will be able to survive the disaster year. ”

Xu Yao asked again: "The victims borrowed seeds and borrowed grain, planted grain, and returned the government to the rich households, how much surplus grain can be left?" I am afraid that it will be a disaster and become a displaced person, and it will be difficult to cure the root cause, if this is the case, what can be done? ”

Dou Chun sweated on his forehead, and hurriedly replied: "The surplus grain is not enough, supplemented by omnivorous food, it is really not enough, and then go to borrow on credit, as long as there is land, there will be food, and it can be recovered in time." Heaven and earth are impermanent, but it will not be a disaster for many years, if this is the case, it is also the will of God, a county, also has its own court relief. ”

Xu Yao smiled: "Brother Dou, don't you think you didn't grasp the root?" ”

Dou Chun asked, "What is fundamental?" ”

Xu Yao said: "Crops grow and become food, in addition to the sun, there must also be land, without land, no matter how the poor farm, they still can't eat." You don't see, the rich man's fertile land is poured into thousands of places, living in the compound every day, or swaggering through the market, never going down to the field, taking a hoe, then sitting on the grain to collect 100,000 quintals, millions of quintals, new grain presses the old grain, the old grain becomes old grain, the barn is full, the rice is overflowing, you can't finish eating the wine, or let it rot. In the land of a county, the fertile land is limited, the rich and large households occupy seven or eight tenths, and the vocational fields occupy one-tenth and twelve, and these fields are five or six tenths, and they do not pay grain and taxes, but the treasury of a county cannot be empty, and the poor have three or three points of barren land per acre, and they have to pay taxes three or four tenths if they do not produce much, how can the poor not be poor? How can you not become a displaced person in the event of a disaster? The difficulty of the disaster victims and the displaced people is rooted in the uneven land, the rich households occupy a large amount of fertile land and do not pay taxes, and the poor are hungry but cannot afford not to pay taxes. Brother Dou, what do you think? ”

Dou Chun said: "The matter of land is complicated, and it is not something that we can negotiate. The disaster victims are displaced, and the land of a county can only do their best. ”

Xu Yao opened his mouth and was about to argue again, but was interrupted at the right time.

"Okay, that's the end of the first debate. Thanks to Dou Chun from Chuzhou and Xu Yao from Guangzhou for the wonderful debate brought to everyone. All topics, only debate problems, put forward strategies, no matter how high or low, those who dare to appear are heroes. Thank you again for the excellent debate. The scholar Fang Teng appeared in time to end the debate.

The land negotiation is related to the stability of the world, and it is not their business.

The two got up and saluted each other and walked off the field.

The onlookers were still listening, shouting to hurry up and start the next one.