Section 21 Grandfather and grandson talk heart-to-heart

Zhu Yunwen arrived at the Qianqing Palace, Zhu Yuanzhang was having dinner, saw Yunwen coming, put down the chopsticks, and asked the eunuch to prepare one for Zhu Yunwen, Zhu Yunwen sat down and ate with Zhu Yuanzhang. After eating for a while, Zhu Yunwen opened his mouth and said, "Grandpa Huang, the Lanyu case has been tried." Sun Chen ....." Zhu Yuanzhang interrupted him and said, "Eat now, and talk about this matter after eating." ”

After the two of them finished dinner and cleaned their hands and faces, Zhu Yuanzhang asked Zhu Yunwen to sit down, let everyone go out, and then asked, "Okay, after eating, how are you doing over there?" ”

Zhu Yunwen took out a copy of the recital from his arms, handed it to Zhu Yuanzhang, and said: "Lan Yu recruited, admitted to the rebellion, but only confessed that Zhan Wei was the same party, Zhan Wei recruited a lot of people, and some were monitored by Jiang Xuan, all of them were tortured today, and there were a total of Jingchuan Hou Cao Zhen, Heqing Hou Zhang Yi, Puding Hou Chen Huan, Zhu Shou, Dongguan Bo He Rong, He Rong's younger brother Shang Bao Si Cheng He Hong, Governor Huang Ke, the official department Shangshu Zhan Hui, the household servant Fu Youwen, the commander Zhuang Cheng, Sun Rang, and the government army avant-garde hundred households Li Cheng, A number of soldiers of the avant-garde of the government army. ”

Zhu Yuanzhang took the fold and read while watching: "Cao Zhen, Zhang Yi, Chen Huan, Zhu Shou, Zhan Wei, Fu Youwen, hehe, Fu Youwen, there are so many people in the avant-garde of the government army, it's really okay, Lan Yu." ”

Zhu Yuanzhang read it and put down the fold: "Yun Wei, what do you think should be done?" ”

Zhu Yunwen remembered the famous Lan Yu case in his dream, the killing of tens of thousands of people, he couldn't help but shudder, was silent for a while, and said: "Grandpa Hui, Lan Yu is rebellious, the evidence is conclusive, all the main culprits will be executed according to the law, and the nine clans will be exterminated." ”

Zhu Yuanzhang laughed: "Yun Wei, the imperial grandfather is very happy, I am afraid that you have compassion and be soft on these people." ”

"Grandpa Huang, Lan Yu's rebellion is forgivable, and the sin is unforgivable. The grandson hopes that the emperor's grandfather can be lenient with others. ”

"Smack", Zhu Yuanzhang threw the teacup in his hand on the ground, which scared Zhu Yunwen a trembling, and the little eunuch outside the window was also trembling, and subconsciously wanted to go in, Changfu grabbed the little eunuch: "You don't want to die?" The emperor is talking to the grandson, and you dare to go in? ”

"But, the emperor ......."

"It's nothing, stay here, the emperor told you to go in again."

"Okay, got it, thank you, Chief."

In the house, there was silence, and Zhu Yunwen knelt on the ground: "The imperial grandfather is angry, the grandson is not filial, please pay attention to the dragon body." Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Zhu Yunwen and seemed to see his father Zhu Biao, the same eagerness, the same generosity, and couldn't help but feel soft-hearted. After a long time, Zhu Yuanzhang sighed: "Yunwen, you get up, the imperial grandfather will talk to you." ”

Zhu Yunwen sat up, helped Zhu Yuanzhang, and said, "Grandpa Huang pay attention to the dragon body, and Grandpa Yunwen listens to Grandpa Huang." ”

Zhu Yuanzhang let out a sigh: "Yun Wei, do you think Ling Chi is too cruel?" Is it too cruel to exterminate the Nine Clans? ”

"Grandpa Huang, Yun Wei ....."

"Yun Wei, I also know, but you said that in the past dynasties, why are there always people who rebel?"

"You can be an emperor if you rebel."

"Yes, you can be the emperor, do you know how much power the emperor has? Hundreds of millions of people are prostrate at your feet, your joys, sorrows and sorrows will affect hundreds of millions of subjects, you can determine anyone's life and death with one word, you are rich all over the world, you have endless wealth, and the beauties of the world are at your disposal. The most important thing is that when you become an emperor, you will not look at anyone's face, but let everyone see your face. That's the allure of supreme power, you know? Zhu Yuanzhang stood up and waved his hands when he said he was excited.

Zhu Yunwen looked at Zhu Yuanzhang, he realized that Zhu Yuanzhang had been the emperor for twenty-six years, and power had been soaked in every cell of him, and his intoxication with power, the fear and anger of those who threatened his power and those who rebelled were unimaginable to Zhu Yunwen.

"Grandpa Huang, my grandson knows, but ......"

Zhu Yuanzhang interrupted Yun Wei's words and said, "No, you don't know, if Lan Yu succeeds, what will happen to our Zhu family?" Have you thought about it? It is difficult for every male in our Zhu family to live, and even if he lives, it is better to live than to die; The women of the Zhu family may have been given to the heroes of the new dynasty, or they may have been reduced to prostitutes. Have you thought about all this? No one is born to be an emperor, they all fight in the power field, on the battlefield, in the court, and in the end there can be a survivor. Now it's me Zhu Yuanzhang, but don't others covet it? ”

Zhu Yunwen was stunned, he remembered the Ming history in his dream, the son Zhu Wenkui, who had been imprisoned for fifty years, after the fourth uncle seized the throne, he demoted his brother to a concubine, and his son was imprisoned until he was in his fifties, and it was the great-grandson of the fourth uncle Zhu Di who released him, but after being imprisoned for a long time, Zhu Wenkui didn't even know cattle and horses, and died after a few years of life. Although he doesn't have a son yet, he can't help but tremble when he thinks of this.

"Yun Wei, what is rebellion? Do you understand? For any royal family, rebellion means that someone will not only kill you, but also your loved ones. Yun Wei, if someone wants to kill you, do you still have to be lenient to people? ”

Zhu Yunwen said, yes, someone is going to kill me, do I have to hand over my life? And, what about your own family? Do the imperial grandfather, mother, and his younger brothers and sisters have to give their heads to others and wait for the mercy of others?

"No, I won't, Grandpa Huang, I understand that the use of torture for rebellion is not enough to curb the covetousness of the world, the reason is that the imperial power makes countless people yearn for it, and even take risks."

"Yes, Grandpa Huang is old, time is running out, and there is not much I can do for you, so I am a little impatient, in fact, I know that someone must be wronged, but I can't tell it, and I don't have time to tell it. Yun Wei, it's difficult to be an emperor, I don't have time to look back on whether I did anything wrong in the past, I can only move forward, because there will always be things for you to deal with, and only by dealing with the future will there be a future. ”

"Your father said that there is a king of Yao Shun and a minister of Yao Shun, which is purely the words of a scholar, the reason why Yao Shun is Yao Shun is that they can command the ministers and reuse the talents, so they can be praised by the world, and the most important thing is that no one succeeds in rebellion, otherwise everything is empty."

Zhu Yunwen felt that what the emperor's grandfather said seemed to be right, but there seemed to be something wrong, and he didn't know what to say.

Zhu Yuanzhang said that he was tired, so he sat down, picked up the teacup to drink, and found that there was no more, Zhu Yunwen hurriedly went up and poured a cup of tea and handed it to Zhu Yuanzhang. Zhu Yuanzhang moistened his throat and said, "Yun Wei, I said a lot today, let's talk about other topics casually." ”

"Okay, Grandpa."

"I built it in Jinling, but I am very dissatisfied, do you have any opinions?"

"Grandpa Huang, building the capital is indeed a big problem, the advantage of building the capital at present is that it is located in the south of the Yangtze River, the financial and tax areas are heavy, and the disadvantage is also that the people of Fufu are abundant, and it is easy to have the style of extravagant comparison.

"yes, I'm worried about that, too. Therefore, let your father go to Shaanxi and Bianliang to inspect to see if he can build a capital in Shaanxi, and the dynasty that built the capital in Shaanxi will last longer. But since the Tang Dynasty, Shaanxi has declined and is not suitable as a capital, and Bianliang is similar. There are also suggestions that in Beiping, Beiping has been the capital of the Yuan, surrounded by mountains, and the capital can also be built. ”

"So think about it, there is no place that is particularly suitable, except for Jinling, other places can not be self-sufficient in food, need to consume people's power to transport food, Yuan Jiandu Beiping, seaborne rice up to 3 million stone per year, depleting people's power."

Zhu Yunwen thought for a while, pondered and said: "The capitals of the great unified dynasties are all in the north, generally in Chang'an, Luoyang, Bianliang, and Beiping. ”

"The problems that need to be considered in building are tangible and secure, convenient transportation, and centered. All three must be in place to build the capital. ”

"This dynasty built the capital of Jinling, the advantage of Jinling is that the land is fertile, do not need the support of Cao Yun, there is a big river barrier, but at present the Yangtze River is not enough for the moat, the river surface has been narrower than in ancient times, shipbuilding technology has progressed, so the Yangtze River is not enough to rely on. In terms of convenient transportation, it is located in the southeast of the Ming Dynasty, and it is beyond the reach of the northwest whip, so it is difficult for the Ming Dynasty to open up the Western Regions like the Western Han Dynasty. Therefore, the grandson of Jinling Jiandu believes that there are some shortcomings. ”

"Guanzhong, since ancient times is the land of four stops, North Xiao Pass, South Wu Pass, East Tong Pass, West Dasan Pass, but since the Qin and Han dynasties, the water conservancy facilities have been seriously damaged, and gradually can not be self-sufficient, starting from the Sui and Tang Dynasties, it depends on the southeast rice to help, the Yellow River is no longer suitable for shipping, so Guanzhong Chang'an can not be used as the capital, because the capital will inevitably gather heavy troops, and the troops will be scattered if there is no food."

"Luoyang, west of the Qinling Mountains, east of Songyue, north of the mountain barrier, south of Longmen Yique. Luoshui traverses the whole city from west to east, surrounded by mountains and rivers, warm in winter and cool in summer. Military advances can be attacked, retreats can be defended. Moreover, it is in the middle of the world, and it is convenient for the Quartet to pay tribute. However, since the Tang Dynasty, China has relied heavily on rice from the southeast, and Luoyang is inconvenient and unable to be self-sufficient, so if this problem can be solved, Luoyang is still the best choice. Located in the middle of the world, it can take into account the northwest, northeast and southwest. However, Luoyang was dilapidated, and there were difficulties in the early stage. ”

"Bianliang is located in the east of Luoyang, Cao Yun is convenient, but there is no danger to defend around, if Shanxi and the land of clouds are not guarded, then Bianliang is difficult to protect, the five dynasties and the Northern Song Dynasty are deeply affected, so in the terrain, Bianliang has a fatal problem, if the northern defense line is breached, the Mongols may drive straight in, then it will be dangerous."

"Let's talk about Beiping, Beiping is the capital of the Jin and Yuan dynasties, and the Jurchens and Mongolians were born by water and grass, and they can rely on their ancestral land. In the topography, the north pillow is Yong, the west is Taihang, the east is adjacent to the Bohai Sea, and the south is adjacent to the Central Plains, so according to Beiping, you can overlook the Central Plains, the Anshi Rebellion started from this, and the end of the Tang Dynasty, Youzhou has always been a strong domain, and the Han army of the Yuan Dynasty to destroy the Song Dynasty is mostly the Han people of Youyan. Therefore, the topography of Beiping and Xi'an is similar, but there are some problems, its hinterland is much smaller than Xi'an, and it is too close to the Great Wall, if the Great Wall is breached, then the Hu people will come to Beijing Division. At this time, the Beijing division will mobilize the world's elite soldiers to serve the king, and after a long time, the people will be tired. In addition, there is not enough food in Beiping, and it needs to be transported or transported by sea, and if the elite soldiers are mobilized, then the pressure on food will be even greater. ”

Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Zhu Yunwen and couldn't help nodding frequently, although it may not be all right, but it is not easy to have this insight at this age. But what he didn't know was that Zhu Yunwen was a brigade chief of staff in the world in his dream, and he knew these issues very well.

"So, Yun Wei, do you have any suggestions for Jiandu?"

"Back to the emperor's grandfather, the grandson tends to Beiping, followed by Jinling, but both have some problems to solve, Beiping to build the capital, need to push out the defense line, completely solve the Mongols, otherwise Beiping will drag down the country. To build the capital of Jinling, it is necessary to solve the problem of the Japanese invaders, as well as the problem of controlling the northwest. ”

"Have you figured out a solution?"

"My grandson has some ideas, but they are not yet mature, and they need to be studied and perfected slowly."

"Yun Wei, you've thought very well, you have time today, do you have anything else to ask?"

"Grandpa Huang, how do you think we can solve the Northern Yuan?"

"Yun Wei, do you want to ask me what I think of your last wargame deduction?"

"Hehe, Grandpa Huang is wise."

"Yun Wei, Hongwu's five-year northern expedition is indeed a bit careless, at that time Xu Da, the king of Zhongshan, was also the main battle, although I didn't agree very much, but I also believe in Xu Da's military talent, I didn't expect to be defeated in Lingbei, as you deduced, at that time, Beiyuan had been driven into the corner, and he was almost the last stick, but he was defeated. In response to Liu Bowen's statement, we can't despise Timur too much. As for your cousin Li Wenzhong, the king of Qiyang, he was too disappointed and the attack was too slow, if the king of Zhongshan could get his support in the decisive battle, he might be able to complete the battle, but the early stage was delayed, and he heard that the king of Zhongshan was defeated, but he lightly advanced the enemy, and finally did not dare to fight the enemy, and almost lost his way on the way to retreat, and the whole army was annihilated. ”

"But then I thought about it, even if the decisive battle of Lingbei was successful, the result was actually similar to the victory of fishing in the sea, Lan Yu was indeed a talent, and almost wiped out all the elites and statistical agencies of the Northern Yuan Dynasty at once, which is equivalent to the Jin State conquering Bianliang that year and plundering all the civil and military officials, but the Southern Song Dynasty still rose, and the Northern Yuan Dynasty was the same. I have to admit that Genghis Khan is indeed a generation of Tianjiao, who brought the martial arts of the Mongols to the extreme, and the territory of our Ming Dynasty is actually only a part of the Yuan Dynasty itself, excluding Mo Nan and Mo Bei, and we deal with it is actually the Yuan Dynasty itself, and other khanates are not involved. Moxi Mongolia is the Oirats, and the so-called people in the forest did not participate in the war against the Ming Dynasty, but if the Ming Dynasty defeated the Southern Mongolia and the Northern Mongolia, then the Western Mongolia would emerge, and there would be other khanates after defeating the Western Mongolia. It was too difficult for the Ming Dynasty to reach the territory of the Tang Dynasty. ”

"Grandpa Huang, Yun Wei feels that the advantages of our Han people over the nomads are becoming less and less obvious, there are two reasons, the technological leadership of our Han people is not large, when Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty was a Han enemy of Wuhu, it is because the iron technology is ahead of the Huns, today we have no such advantage over Mongolia, in addition, the organization of the nomads is tighter, more unified, the Xiongnu and the Turkic, its interior is lined with large and small ethnic groups, but today the people on the steppe call themselves Mongols, so the Ming must have a new understanding of the new war, Otherwise, you will inevitably suffer a big loss. ”

Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Zhu Yunwen in surprise and asked, "Yunwen, did you think of it yourself, or did others tell you?" ”

"Grandpa Huang, it was Yun Wei himself who thought of it, and Yun Wei was busy with war games recently, and summed it up."

"Yun Wei, the emperor's grandfather is also aware of this problem, so he is not so interested in going out of the fortress to eliminate Mongolia, because there are too many Mongols, much more than the previous Huns and Turks, and there will always be people who want to inherit the glory of Genghis Khan. Therefore, in recent years, the national policy of the Ming Dynasty has become defense, establishing guards outside the Great Wall and relying on the Great Wall for defense. ”

"But Grandpa, this is not a long-term solution."

"Yes, I know, but there's no better way. Do you have one? ”

"Yun Wei doesn't know now, but he will try to solve it."

Zhu Yuanzhang paused: "Yun Wei, kneel." ”

Zhu Yunwen hurriedly knelt down: "Yes, Grandpa Huang." ”

Zhu Yuanzhang said sharply: "Mongolia must not be underestimated, don't think that you have deduced it on paper a few times, just underestimate Mongolia, understand?" ”

"Sun Chen understands."

"Alright, you get up."

Zhu Yunwen hurriedly stood up, he was scared just now, and the emperor's grandfather started a fire, it was too scary.