However, Zhuo Jing and Yu Xin were no longer newcomers to the Eun Sea, and they quickly reacted that the emperor was not going to discuss things with them, but to convey some information. The reason is very simple, since the emperor left Beijing, many things have happened in the court, such as the seizure of the Investigation Division, the entry of the Guards into Beijing to protect the imperial city, the imprisonment of King Ji in Zongrenfu, the amnesia of King Tai, and the assassination case that occurred in Jiangbei, all of which will inevitably stimulate the emperor, and this is easy to see from the emperor's slightly flushed face and cold eyes.

So the two of them quickly gave up thinking, but bowed down in unison to salute: "The ministers are stupid, and they still hope that the emperor will judge!" ”

"Well, please sit down, I do have something to say." Seeing the two of them on the road like this, Zhu Yunwen was happy in his heart and immediately ordered someone to give him a seat.

"Emperor Xie!"

After the two of them were seated, Zhu Yunwen asked people to hang maps of Zhou, Qin, Han, Northern and Southern Dynasties, Sui, Tang, Song, and Yuan, and then pointed to these maps and said: "What can you see when you look at the changes in the territory of the Chinese clan in the past dynasties?" ”

Because the car is still moving, the wall chart is also shaking slightly, but it can be seen in general. Zhuo and Yu are both rich and wealthy people, and they have actually seen and studied these maps, but they don't understand the emperor's intentions, so they were silent for a while.

"Back to the emperor," Zhuo Jing, who was still a little younger in the end, spoke first: "Since Qin Shi Huang annexed the Six Kingdoms, drove the Xiongnu in the north, and Baiyue in the south, the Han Dynasty, the Tang Dynasty and the eastern, southeastern, southern, and southwestern territories of the Ming Dynasty have basically been fixed, and the contraction changes are mainly in the northeast, north and northwest, etc., the successive dynasties expanded to the Han and Tang dynasties, the Han Dynasty opened up the Western Regions, the Tang Dynasty conquered the Turks, and once included the entire grassland. Commanded Mobei and Monan respectively, but unfortunately the good times did not last long, the Hanhai Protectorate was broken by the Turks in the last years of Gaozong, and the Shan Yu Protectorate was finally lost in the Khitan. ”

"At present, the territory of my Ming Dynasty is not as good as that of the Han and Tang Dynasties, the west of the Han Dynasty is far beyond the Yumen Pass and Yangguan, and the territory of the Tang Dynasty is still above the Han Dynasty, and I have shrunk more than a thousand miles to the east towards the west of the Han Dynasty, and the boundary is Jiayu Pass; In the east, Emperor Lai Tianwei has recovered the homeland of the Han and Tang Dynasties; As for the north, although Mongolia has been repeatedly attacked, but has not been able to exterminate, the Hongwu Dynasty has produced many famous generals, eight times out of the crusade, to this dynasty, the emperor sent Wei Gongsheng to capture Erleboke, but to subjugate the steppe, there is still a long way to go! ”

"Well, that's good! What about Yu Shangshu? Zhu Yunwen sighed slightly in his heart, a little disappointed, he thought that Zhuo Jing could say something thought-provoking, but unfortunately it was just a cliché.

Yu Xin is sixty-five years old this year, his hair has turned gray, so far, he has been in charge of the world's wealth for ten years, in the great turmoil of the last years of Hongwu, he can spend without danger, not only shows that he is meticulous, but also shows that he has a rare talent. So in the Jianwen Dynasty, he is still reused, during Zhu Yunwen's northern tour, into the Wenyuan Pavilion to assist the prince in charge of government affairs, in order to meet the needs of the army, Yu Xin conscientious, fulfill his duties, supervise the transportation of grain and grass for the front-line soldiers, and ensure that the army is worry-free, for this reason, Zhu Yunwen also personally issued an edict to commend him.

Yu Xin felt that the emperor's gaze turned to him, and he was a little hesitant in his heart, what Zhuo Jing said was actually in his expectation, he was his old subordinate, he had been a household servant under him for many years, but he was a little restless and liked to talk about the art of war, and because of this, he got the emperor's trust, and now the holy family is above him. However, Yu Xin didn't care about this very much, he was already old, and he felt less energetic recently, and he already had the idea of returning to his hometown, so he stood up tremblingly and knelt on the ground: "Thanks to the emperor's inquiry, the old minister has a few heartfelt words, I don't know if to say it!" ”

Zhu Yunwen was shocked, quickly stood up, walked in front of Yu Xin, and helped him up with both hands: "Yu Laoqing's family, I just want to talk to you today, but it's okay to say it!" ”

"Yes, Your Majesty!"

Yu Xin leaned back in his chair and arched his hand: "The emperor's ambition is admired by the minister very much, but the minister still has some contrary advice. There is nothing to say about the southeast side, on the northwest alone, Yumen Pass and Yangguan have long been submerged in the yellow sand desert, the Hexi corridor with abundant water and grass in the past has not been compared to the past, the four towns of Anxi in the Tang Dynasty and the Ganliang Prefectures have not been in Tubo, Western Xia and Mongolia, when the first emperor sent Feng Sheng and Yingguo Gong to recover the northwest, there was no Han sound in the local area, and there were Hulu everywhere, and the two generals could only build Jiayu Pass and return eastward. But even in the area east of Jiayuguan, it is sparsely populated, bandits are numerous, in the past, when the king of Su was in the domain, he had to first be in the domain of Pingliang, Hongwu 28 years before he became a fantasarian in Ganzhou, and in the early years of this dynasty, he changed the title of Lanzhou, which shows that it is difficult to govern. And since the Hongwu Dynasty, the local military tun can not be self-sufficient, and all the guards of Ningxia and Shaanxi need to allocate grain, at least more than 100,000 stone per year. ”

"As for the newly recovered Lelang Mansion, for this land, the imperial court has sent 150,000 troops across the sea to conquer Korea, and it has not yet been pacified, but it has cost nearly 500,000 stone of food before and after, not counting the more than 500,000 stone of grain collected by the Marquis of Licheng in the local area. Most of these grain and sergeants were shipped from Shandong, and the local people were exhausted, and the garrison was sharply reduced. Moreover, in order to conquer Korea, the imperial court had a bad relationship with the Japanese state, and fought with the sailors of the Korean and Japanese countries on Jeju Island, although they won a complete victory, but they lost more than 50 warships and nearly 3,000 soldiers. ”

"The reason for this, the old minister thinks that the Korean Peninsula has been unified, the people are stable, and the Han and Tang dynasties have been completely different, the former Khitan, Jin, and even Mongolia are unable to destroy Korea, and now the Ming wants to achieve the goal, how easy is it to say? Now that our Ming Dynasty is stationed in North Korea, it costs countless amounts of money and food every day, and it consumes national strength. ”

"The Wa Kingdom is lonely overseas, since ancient times, it has never been conquered by foreign countries, in the past, Mongolia won a total victory, and the two Eastern Crusades were all wiped out, I rushed to war with the Wa State, and the old minister was very worried!"

Yu Xin opened his mouth, Zhuo Jing felt bad, just as Yu Xin knew him, he also knew Yu Xin, this old man did things with a clear eye, but he was too square, although there were not many words, but as long as he spoke, he would definitely have something to say. Now that the emperor has opened up the border and expanded the territory, and a large number of sergeants have been recruited to the north, the pressure on the household department is the greatest, so there will be no good words from Yu Xin's mouth. Zhuo Jing peeked at Zhu Yunwen's expression, and found that Zhu Yunwen's face was becoming more and more gloomy, and hurriedly interrupted Yu Xindao: "Boss, my Ming national strength is far above Mengyuan, they are unable to conquer Korea and the Japanese Kingdom, our dynasty may not be able to do it, the emperor Shengming, must have made a decision, the boss doesn't need to say much!" ”

"Lord Zhuo, this official is already old, and he will return to his hometown soon, can't he let me finish speaking?"

Zhuo Jing was stunned for a moment, and couldn't help but glance up at the emperor, but saw Zhu Yunwen smiling slightly: "Wei Gong, today's speaker is not guilty, you don't have to worry, Yu Laoqing's family, I still want to say it bluntly, I still have this measure." While speaking, Zhu Yunwen secretly told himself, don't be angry, these people have historical limitations, don't be angry, don't be angry!

"Emperor Xie," Yu Xin continued, "As for the Mongols in the north, please forgive the ministers for saying that the Mongols cannot be exterminated unless I kill every herdsman in the Ming Dynasty." Mongolia and the Xiongnu in the past, the Turks are completely different, the Xiongnu is called the 'chief of a hundred barbarians', it can be seen that there are many people in the upper part of the grassland at that time, so after the Eastern Han Dynasty general Dou Xian defeated the Xiongnu, the Xiongnu were immediately replaced by Xianbei; and the Turks are the same, after the Tang army broke the Turks, the Hui replaced the Turks and became the masters of the grassland. It's just that Mongolia is different, as the emperor said, Genghis Khan did something unprecedented, and all the herdsmen called themselves Mongols. So even if Erlebok is captured and the gold family is extinct, it doesn't make any sense. Because the later tribes will call themselves Mongols, just as our Chinese dynasties and dynasties have regarded themselves as Han Chinese. ”

"So my border troubles in the Ming Dynasty are different from those of the previous dynasty, and the old minister thinks that no matter how much effort is spent, it will not be able to eradicate the border troubles, so ......"

"So, what do you mean? I'm going to sit back and watch the Mongols recuperate, and when they're strong, then come and fight us? Zhu Yunwen was furious in his heart, and couldn't help interrupting Yu Xin's words, and asked coldly.

"Your Majesty," as if he hadn't heard the chill in Zhu Yunwen's voice, Yu Xin said indifferently: "That's not what the minister meant, since Mongolia can't be eradicated, and now Mongolia is extremely weak, you shouldn't send troops out of the fortress again, and it's useless!" ”

In addition, the ministers did not approve of the emperor's move of the capital to Beijing, which was a bitter cold place, and a large amount of money and grain and taxes needed to be levied from the south of the Yangtze River, which required a lot of people's power; In addition, sooner or later, the Mongols will recover their vitality and go south again, once they break through the Great Wall, they will come to the city of Beijing, in order to ensure the safety of Beijing, the imperial court will inevitably issue an edict to King Qin, but the army of King Qin is far away, and it also needs a large amount of food and supplies, which will greatly consume the people's money and food in the south of the Yangtze River, and these can be avoided. ”

"The first emperor was wise and martial, but he never thought of moving the capital to Beijing, his alternative plan was Xi'an in Shaanxi and Kaifeng and Luoyang in Henan, and the reason for this is that Beijing is too close to the outside world."

"The first emperor worked hard to build three lines of defense for the defense of Mongolia, the first is the line of the Great Wall, which our army can rely on the fortress of the Great Wall for defense; If the enemy breaks through the Great Wall, our army will retreat to the Yellow River and rely on the Yellow River antenna for defense; If there is a situation, our army can also rely on the Huai River and the Yangtze River to defend, so that everything can be done. ”

"Once the capital is moved to Beijing, if the Beijing division is besieged, the Qin Wang army will not be able to arrive for a long time, and at that time, I will be in danger!"

"Yu Xin, you are so bold!"