Chapter 8: The Turning Point (8,6600 Votes)

Molotov is a veteran diplomat of the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs for many years, and he has his own understanding and experience in political negotiations, and he has also dealt with all kinds of people for many years, and he is also familiar with Ribbentrop. Pen | fun | pavilion www. biquge。 Therefore, although the overall situation on the battlefield is inferior, the negotiating table is as calm as ever, and there is no timidity at all.

According to the normal negotiation process, such matters concerning major issues between the two countries need to be discussed by low-level representatives first, and then the high-level representatives and foreign ministers should come forward, but he is well aware that the current situation is tense and cannot adopt such a calm approach, so he has decided to go into the negotiation policy of going it alone.

Before the negotiations, he thought about many aspects and how the Germans would persecute them, but he still had never heard of such serious nonsense as Ribbentrop. So he duly changed the subject, and instead of bragging with Ribbentrop, he decided to talk about some useful terms.

The first breakthrough point he also carefully thought about and chose -- he could not talk about major and crucial terms such as territory as soon as he came up, otherwise it would be easy for the talks to collapse, and he had to first make a small to a large one, and slowly detour.

He first said: "Since you think that you are seeking common ground while reserving differences, but now that we are willing to sit down and negotiate, does this reflect the spirit of seeking common ground while reserving differences?" Could it be that a ceasefire can be started for a period of time to reduce unnecessary losses? ”

He thought that the other party would refuse or prevaricate, but Ribbentrop actually nodded subconsciously: "It's okay to cease fire, and people will die in war, but I will add that not only should there be a ceasefire, but also the movement of troops should be adjusted, so as not to cause unnecessary miscalculations." ”

Molotov's smile froze, the question was stuck.

Now that the Red Army as a whole is in a situation of being surrounded by German troops, and the route of transporting equipment, materials, and supplies from the Ural industrial zone to the southern flank has been basically cut off, if the ceasefire is followed by a cessation of mobilization, it means that the main force of the troops is still in the German encirclement, and the Germans can calmly mobilize materials and supplies, and the Red Army can only stare at it dryly, and once the fire is reopened, the situation will be even more unfavorable.

He explained: "This, some troops should be retracted, our side ......"

Ribbentrop nodded in agreement: "Or do you gather the troops from Stalingrad and go to Astrakhan?" ”

Yes, the second amendment was also stuck, so Molotov had to change the topic and break through: "On the issue of our troops after the armistice, the scale of 2 million is too small, which is not only incommensurate with the status of a great power, but also does not meet our security needs." And your country has to garrison 1 million troops, so ......"

"It is precisely for security reasons that the Führer recommends that your army be limited to about 2 million." Ribbentrop earnestly explained, "This is also for your own good, because Vlasov will limit his army to about 1 million, so that with our 1 million, the strength of the two sides is roughly balanced." When the time comes, the Soviets will deploy 500,000 troops on the Urals front, 500,000 on other borders, and 1 million in the Far East, and we think that we will be able to meet our needs. ”

"You know, the neighbors in the Far East have some ill intentions."

"Then you have to have strength." Ribbentrop sighed slowly, "1 million well-armed, brave and fearless officers of the Red Army who have fought for many years are enough to defend the eastern territory of the Soviet Union. ”

Molotov was stunned for a moment, "heroic and fearless" actually came from Ribbentrop's mouth, which always sounded strange.

"The Führer believes that the Soviet Red Army is still very powerful, more powerful than the French, British, and Americans, and if the German Army is the first in the world, you can be ranked second in the world, so 2 million Red Army troops are enough to defend their homeland. As for us, don't worry, we don't intend to continue fighting under such favorable circumstances, and most likely we will not choose to fight in the future - unless we are forced to. Ribbentrop rolled his eyes, "Or is it that the Red Army is not convinced by the war, is always thinking of revenge on us, and will fight in the future?" ”

"No, no ......"

"It's good if you don't have it."

"But 2 million is really a little less, how about 3 million?"

Ribbentrop shook his head: "2 million is enough, we can't sleep if we have more, Vlasov can't sleep, and others can't sleep, so why bother?" And since we are talking about an armistice, of course, it is peaceful and sincere, and we will send 500,000 troops to block the Ural Mountains. Vlasov can't beat you past us, and you are the same, you are both safe for each other. In the future, the head of state, as the leader of the European Union, will of course have comprehensive arrangements and considerations. In this world, it is not us who really have to put Comrade Stalin and the Bolshevik Party to death, it is the Russian Liberation Army and Vlasov, you know the specific reason......"

Now it was Molotov's turn to nod, and some people within the Bolsheviks said that the Russian Liberation Army was the most vicious enemy, and the most feared thing was that after the Soviet-German armistice, the Germans ostensibly did not participate, and secretly encouraged Vlasov to continue fighting.

From Hoffman's point of view, neither Stalin nor Vlasov can unify Russia, this is the way to maximize Germany's interests, and the best situation is a long-term confrontation between the two countries, and Germany plays the role of mediator, so he will neither let Western Russia annex Eastern Russia, nor let Eastern Russia counterattack Western Russia.

As for the territories of the Far East, Hoffmann did not want Japan to attack Stalin, and the two countries should maintain mutual containment, and weakening Russia too much would only lead to Japan's indigestion and end up -- this would be detrimental to Germany's global strategic deployment. Molotov understood this.

"Also." Ribbentrop sighed and said slowly, "We are all so acquainted, and some words are not hidden, it really makes Comrade Stalin anxious, he will not think of a way beyond the limit of 2 million troops?" At that time, there will be a lot of names such as the internal police, the Red Guards, the workers' pickets, the Young Guards, etc...... This is all a routine we have played, and it was limited by the Treaty of Versailles to arrange only 100,000 troops, and how much turmoil did it cause in the end? The Führer sincerely hoped that the Bolshevik Party would be stable and united, develop the economy, consolidate the people's livelihood, and that in the future they would jointly explore different socialist roads and values. ”

Molotov was stunned, is this still the same unlearned champagne seller? In the past two days, the level of political theory has been greatly improved, and being a member of the Politburo is more than enough, which is similar to Goebbels or Hess. He nervously asked, "What about the weapon restrictions?" ”

"Except for weapons of mass destruction, there are almost none, and of course you can't use weapons that are explicitly prohibited by international treaties!"

As for what weapons of mass destruction are, Ribbentrop is vague, and Molotov is not clear, anyway, airplanes, artillery, tanks, and warships do not belong to this category, as for such things as chemical weapons and rockets, the Soviet itself has limited strength, so naturally it is too lazy to care, and the Germans say that they are weapons of mass destruction.

Molotov thought to himself that this would finally have a bit of a positive result. The topic was pulled and pulled, and it was transferred to the national border.

He frowned and complained: "The level of border demarcation is too harsh, and the Soviets have lost too much traditional territory. ”

"Really? But Germany did not occupy your lands, these territories are still within the Russian structure, and they are nothing more than the administration of different union republics. "The proposed Führer of State for the formation of a Soviet confederation divided into Menshevik and Bolshevik republics has agreed, but the territory is limited to the traditional territory of Russia and cannot include other national powers." The demarcation of the Ural Mountains as a geographical fault is conducive to sorting out relations between the two sides -- Russia is originally a double-headed eagle. ”

"But Central Asia is still completely controlled by us, and you will carve out these territories at the slightest move."

"The independence of the national regimes is a consistent part of the Führer's Eastern policy, and in the future Transcaucasia will be divided into Georgian, Azerbaijani and Armenian states, all of which are independent regimes, and we do not want to get involved with the Turks. As for Central Asia, isn't the Ferghana Basin still under our control, and as for the political power of various nationalities, you and I know very well that we should not bother with more lawsuits. Ribbentrop laughed and said, "The Tatars of Central Asia are not of the same mind as you, and Comrade Stalin does not like them, so why do you have to take them to live together?" How awkward...... You see, we don't want it in the territory of the non-traditional German Zone. The Führer also intends to settle a part of the Poles independently, out of sight and out of mind. ”

"But there will be a lot of problems left over from such a hasty demarcation, such as Kazakhstan has a large number of Russians, and you can't just open your mouth and take away independence."

"Taking into account this reality, the Führer demanded only the restoration of the old territories of the Arash Autonomous Republic."

The Autonomous Republic of Arash was an independent republic formed after the October Revolution, initially biased towards White Russia, with Orenburg as its capital, and later joined the Soviet Union as one of the union republics, and its territory was smaller than that of the current Kazakh. In this way, it is equal to hundreds of thousands of territories, and 200-3 million Russians can be included in East Russia, although Molotov is not satisfied, but at least there are some positive results.

"As for other countries in Central Asia, we also have a comprehensive consideration." Ribbentrop elaborated on the systematic decomposition of the Central Asian territory.

In the future, the territory of Central Asia will be established on the basis of the Turkestan Soviet Autonomous Socialist Republic, which was originally the Turkestan Governorate in the imperial Russian era, and before the establishment of the Soviet Union in 1924 and the national demarcation, it also included Khorezm and Bukhara Soviet People's Republics, and was intended to be subdivided into Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Karakalpakstan, Khorezm, Bukhara and other republics. For example, Karakalpakstan was subordinate to Kazakhstan during the Soviet era, and this time it was pulled out separately and became independent. In summary, Central Asia is divided into eight republics, of which Turkmenistan is also involved in the transfer of part of the territory to Iran.

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