Yang Huairen was awe-inspiring in his heart, and he had no intention of concealing it, and since Lu Dafang could ask like this, it seemed that he had already heard some rumors, or noticed the changes in the court and the forbidden army.

"The official family does have this intention, but the two ministers asked the boy about this matter, and the boy couldn't say anything, the boy was not in the court, he didn't understand, and he couldn't take care of the court."

Fan Chunren smiled, "That's a bad word. You say you're no longer in court, but how do you know? Who have you talked to about it? ”

"I ......"

Yang Huairen wanted to say what I knew from the history books, but when the words came to his lips, he swallowed them back stiffly. The heart said that it can't be too casual to talk to this old man who has become a human spirit.

He remembered some things that Zhang Dian had told him at the banquet last year, so he came to use it as a shield, "It was inadvertently mentioned by Zhang Xianggong at the completion ceremony of the Culinary Academy last year. ”

Lu Dafang didn't seem to hear clearly, and asked in an aggravated tone, "Are you talking about Zhang Dian?" ”

Yang Huairen didn't know why, so he had to nod.

Lu Dafang and Fan Chunren glanced at each other meaningfully, as if they didn't believe that someone like Zhang Dian would "inadvertently" talk about such a national event with Yang Huairen, a young man, so he continued to ask, "Do you remember that he told you about the specific matters of using soldiers at that time?" ”

Yang Huairen seems to have reacted, Zhang Dian is now the Privy Council, that is, the prime minister of the dynasty, and it is the person who has squeezed out the two prime ministers of Fan Lu.

Yang Huairen clearly understood the relationship between them, although the three were loyal ministers loyal to the court and the emperor, but unfortunately they had different temperaments and political views, and some secret fights were inevitable.

He was afraid that he would be misunderstood by Fan Lu and the others by saying too much, so he pushed it back and said, "That day, when the academy built by the kid was completed, I was overjoyed, I ate too much wine, and I forgot most of what I said to Zhang Xianggong, I only remember that I said that I used troops to the west, the specific matters, where do you remember clearly?" ”

Lu Dafang and Fan Chunren shook their heads at the same time, looking a little worried, but they didn't doubt Yang Huairen's words.

And Yang Huairen also secretly breathed a sigh of relief, and said in his heart that you have all been excluded from the court by Zhang Dian and other new parties, what are you still concerned about? Didn't Fang just say that he wanted to be at ease?

Fan Chunren stroked his beard and thought about it, and then asked, "Then what do you think of this matter?" ”

"Me?"

Yang Huairen pointed at himself with a wry smile, pretending to be stupid and stupid, "What can you think of a boy idler?" Even if I have any opinions on a whim, no one listens to the nonsense of idle people like the boy, hehe......"

Fan Chunren would not be deceived by Yang Huairen like this, and seemed to have caught something from Yang Huairen's expression, but he still laughed, "This came out of your Yang Zhiyi's mouth, teach the old man how to believe you?"

Do you really think it's none of your business? How can you say that you are also the chief general of Long Wuwei, Long Wuwei's new method of training, and later the Qionglin Yuan official's battlefield order, you can't see it when the two old men can't see it, can't you hear it? ”

"This ......"

Yang Huairen was suddenly speechless when asked, and he was here and there for a long time before he muttered in a low voice, "The kid is young and vigorous, and he won the Western Xia elite again in Huanzhou, isn't it okay to be a little proud and complacent?" ”

Fan Chunren suddenly changed his words, "Being young and vigorous doesn't necessarily mean it's all bad." In this way, in your heart, are you in favor of using troops against Western Xia? ”

Yang Huairen was asked to such a point, he couldn't admit it if he wanted to, so he had to nod calmly.

Lu Dafang took over and said, "My Great Song Dynasty has been disturbed by Western Xia for many years, and it is time to use troops in Western Xia once and for all." Speaking of which, the old man and Brother Yaofu are also in favor of the use of soldiers, but ......"

Fan Chunren took the words back, "It's just that it really has to be done once and for all, I'm afraid it will take the power of the whole country to do it, if the Khitan takes advantage of the gap at this time, how will the Great Song Dynasty deal with itself?"

Or if there is another big defeat like the Battle of Yongle City, Da Liao will not miss the opportunity, and Da Song will not be able to withstand the threat from the north. ”

Lu Dafang's expression was solemn, and he remembered the 200,000 Song soldiers who died in the Battle of Yongle City that year, and he burst into tears.

Although Yang Huairen did not have that kind of experience, he lost more than 200,000 Song troops in the first battle, and it is not difficult to think of the voice of mourning from the Song Dynasty and the opposition at that time.

But if he puts himself in the shoes of a later generation, he can understand the state of mind of Fan Chunren and Lü Dafang, but he also sees some limitations of the two ministers like Fan and Lü as literati in looking at war.

Literati are good at governing the country, but they don't understand war. They can cheer for the victory of a war, and they can also mourn for the loss of tens of thousands of Song Dynasty disciples after the defeat, but in the face of war, there is a kind of ideological imprisonment unique to literati.

During the decades of the Song and Xia Qingli peace talks, the Great Song Dynasty nominally gave 50,000 taels of silver and 100,000 horses of silk to the Western Xia Emperor every year, which was actually the same as the annual tribute to the Great Liao.

At that time, the literati had a sense of shame, they could worry about the country and the people, they could criticize and write, and they could write and make up their minds, but these were all fakes, and they could not and could not change this situation, let alone have the ability and determination.

When the Xihe Battle defeated the Western Xia in the Xining period, the Western Xia proclaimed themselves vassals and promised to pay tribute, and they easily believed in the loyalty of the Western Xia, and because of the humility of the Western Xia, they missed the best opportunity once and for all.

Later, there was the defeat of Yongle City, and when he talked about it with Western Xia again, he could only make peace in Yidi, and when it came to seeking peace, Yang Huairen remembered that it was Sima Guang, the head of the literati at that time, who had the idea.

At that time, in the Manchu Dynasty, except for Zhang Tun, a direct minister, who scolded "the speaker can be killed" above the court to express fierce opposition, no one dared to speak, and then Zhang Dian was demoted, and now he has been reinstated and insisted on using troops against Western Xia, which is not difficult to understand.

The two prime ministers of Fan Lu were also loyal ministers, but it is a pity that in their literati thoughts, there is only "harmony", but they do not understand that this kind of "harmony" can only be obtained through "war".

Therefore, when faced with the use of soldiers, I knew that I had to use soldiers, but I was too worried, which led to looking forward and backward, and finally I was complacent.

Yang Huairen also knew that their thinking was also limited by the times, so it was not to belittle them, but in his eyes, it was indeed a huge risk to use troops against Western Xia at this time, even if he knew that the result was good, but now that he thought about it, he inevitably felt a little scary.

He suddenly felt that something was not right, Da Liao had always provoked the relationship between Song and Xia on the one hand, and at the same time pretended to be a good person to mediate to maintain this apparent balance, and they themselves continued to reap the benefits of the fisherman.

So in this Song-Xia War, why didn't Da Liao intervene?