Chapter 517: Debate Contest (Part II)

It's really hateful that you, a Lu Kaiming, actually played this trick with me, and even ignored your own family.

Cui Youyu frowned slightly, he knew that the situation was already very unfavorable for them, not that Lu Kaiming's words were difficult to refute, but because most of the members of the jury were soldiers, that is, poor, and they didn't have to think about it to know that Lu Kaiming advocated the idea of education without class, which was very in line with what these jury members thought, if they were allowed to choose, of course they would not agree that the boundary of education lies in the rich and poor, they must lean on Lu Kaiming's side.

You must know that the Lu family is the top family in the world today, and it can be described as a nobleman among nobles, how can you, as a son of a nobleman, speak for the Shu family.

Thinking of this, he couldn't help but glance at Han Yi angrily, it was so cunning to let the nobles fight among themselves, but let the Shu clan judge.

The young Lu Kaiming's eyes moved around a few times, and when he saw that many ministers were nodding, including Li Zhi and the eldest grandson Wuji, he was overjoyed and sat down quietly, with a little cunning on his face, which was quite meaningful. I have to say that his trick is indeed yin enough, but I don't know that he sold his family.

But this can't be blamed on him, firstly, he is relatively young, and his consideration is not too profound, secondly, he has been treated as a patient by his family and friends since he was a child, which makes him very depressed, he wants to prove himself, whether it is literary or martial, he wants to prove that he is a normal person, even better than normal people, he wants to win too much this time, so that he ignores a lot of things, his remarks, some of which have been prepared for a long time, but some of them are improvised ideas.

Han Yi finally found an opportunity to ring the wooden hammer and said, "Zhengfang, you can send a representative to reply." ”

Cui Youyu was stunned. Retracted his gaze, looked left and right again, and saw that many people on his side were pondering, sighed slightly, and got up and said: "The opposing side always refutes with the existence of education and non-class, but I think that the existence of education and non-class is just a very important argument to prove our point of view. ”

Everyone was stunned. Including Li Zhi and the eldest grandson Wuji, they all looked at Cui Youyu curiously, these two sentences are clearly self-contradictory, how did they become an important argument for the positive side?

Almost all of them didn't figure it out.

Cui Youyu smiled confidently and said: "Everyone, don't forget, in addition to teaching without class, Sage Confucius also put forward a very important educational idea, that is, teaching students according to their aptitude, as someone said earlier. Everyone's talent is different, but the talent is different, it does not mean that the wisdom is foolish, the deputy inspector has a good saying, I am born - I must be useful. Everyone has what they are good at and what they are not good at, and teaching them according to their aptitude is because of this, so that people can develop their strengths and avoid their weaknesses. Is it okay to teach soldiers the art of war? OK. But is it suitable? I don't see it. A soldier is to be good at killing the enemy, and you want him to be a strategist. If the world is full of strategists, then whoever goes into battle to kill the enemy can be said to be misleading others and harming themselves. Is it okay to teach a farmer a gentleman? OK. But is it appropriate? Not necessarily, after all, farming doesn't require a gentleman's way.

There is no class in teaching, this is true. Everyone can teach, but what to teach? Then you have to teach students according to their aptitude. Teaching a farmer how to farm and a weaver girl how to weave cloth are actually edifications, and they don't necessarily have to teach the words of the saints. Or the Four Books and the Five Classics. And our point of view is to prove that such knowledge as poetry and music must be taught. I don't think it's necessary, and it is impossible for Sage Confucius to feel that he must teach, if everyone goes to read the books of the sages, then who will farm, if everyone goes to war, then whoever will farm, without food, will not even be able to live, and then the country will perish. The meaning of Sage Confucius is that if you have the talent to read, let him read, and if you don't have the talent for reading, let them do something else, not necessarily let them all understand these truths. Telling them how to do it is also teaching, not having to tell them why they are doing it, it is teaching, so teaching without class does not refute our point of view.

And we believe that this sentence also contains a very practical truth, that is, people with different talents are put in a position that suits them, and then teach them according to their aptitude, for example, Taiwei told Shangshu, why do you want to do it, this is teaching, Taiwei tells the people how to do it, this is also teaching, the difference is that Shangshu and the people are in different positions. Of course, I still have to reiterate again, I am born with talent - must be useful, the farmer and the scholar are just different positions, everyone is good at the difference, the Shangshu farming must be inferior to the farmer, without the farmer to grow food, the scholar will starve to death, there is a way, if the wisdom is foolish, the foolish is wise. ”

is worthy of being a descendant of the Boling Cui clan, and it is really powerful. Han Yi secretly praised when he heard this, especially this last sentence, Cui Youyu not only wanted to consolidate the status of the nobles, but also to win the favor of those judges, if the judges were all nobles, he would not necessarily say the latter sentence.

Cui Youyu continued: "So is it teachable or not? Murong Zhouhang said earlier, if you teach them some truths, they will always understand, it is better to teach than not to teach, but is this really the case? I don't think so, because there is still a misunderstanding in this, if the people's aptitude is not up to the point of understanding a certain truth, but they are not completely incomprehensible, then it may be misunderstood into another meaning, which is very dangerous, and the deviation of thinking may cause a catastrophe, for example, a gentleman loves money, and takes it in a good way, if they understand the second half of the sentence to make sense of how to get money, then this person is very dangerous. Therefore, for some people, it is better not to teach, which is the idea that Confucius wanted to express. ”

"Well said!"

"Haha! is worthy of being a descendant of the Boling Cui clan, and it is really different and outstanding. ”

A number of ministers applauded.

Li Zhi also nodded frequently when he heard this, and asked the eldest grandson Wuji on the side, "Who is this son?" ”

The eldest grandson Wuji said: "This son is the descendant of Cui Hao, the virtuous minister of the Northern Wei Dynasty. ”

Li Zhi nodded and said, "No wonder, no wonder." ”

Cui Youyu arched his hand and retreated, really free.

Lu Kaiming frowned when he heard this, racking his brains to find a way to refute. At the same time, the people on the opposite side are scratching their heads and thinking.

But Cui Youyu's debate is really a bit flawless, he not only analyzes every word, but also mentions the law of human survival, it is impossible for everyone to farm, and it is impossible for everyone to study. and then the rise and fall of the country, the most impressive thing is that he also concealed the purpose of the aristocracy to fool the people and rule the people.

I was born as a soldier and nodded, I am suitable for farming and fighting, even if I go to study. It's also a waste of time, and I don't like to read, so I might as well spend more energy to do a good job in this kind of field and make the best use of my talents.

Chu Suiliang saw that the representatives of the opposing side bowed their heads and said nothing, and said with a slight smile: "It seems that the victory and defeat have been decided." ”

Li Zhi and the others also nodded, and they also felt that it was difficult for the opposing side to win.

At this moment, Han Yi's eyes suddenly glanced at a person, and this person was Yang Menghao. In fact, Yang Menghao has been gearing up for a long time, and he has been waiting. waited for the opponent's donkey skills to be poor, and then he appeared as a superhero, counterattacking in a big way, and making a final decision, this is the highest level of limelight.

Yang Menghao saw Han Yi's gaze and knew that his opportunity had come, so he held his chin with one hand and said, "No, no." Wrong. ”

Because it was very quiet, his voice was very loud.

Everyone looked for a voice. Seeing that it was Yang Menghao who made the sound, he couldn't help but bulge his eyes, what kind of person is Yang Menghao, the braggart king, he can sit opposite, it is already a humiliation for the opponent.

Murong Zhouhang said, "Xiao Meng." Don't talk nonsense. ”

Yang Menghao is a man who deceived Han Yi, needless to say about his acting skills, he looked up and said with a childish face: "I didn't talk nonsense, I just think Brother Cui is not right." ”

He wasn't loud, but everyone heard him.

Liu Hanyu's heart moved. If Yang Menghao was the representative, then the outcome of this round would definitely be clear, so he smiled and said: "Xiao Menghao has any high opinions, you might as well talk about it." ”

The representatives of the positive side are all smiling with a narrow face.

Murong Zhouhang said unhappily: "Xiao Meng, what are you talking about?" ”

Yang Menghao pursed his mouth and wanted to cry aggrievedly.

This kid, what kind of policeman should he be, mix with me, go and be a liar! No, I'm the second-in-command of the police now, so that's kind of messing with me! Han Yi knocked on the wooden hammer and said, "On the other side, you can send a representative to argue." ”

Everyone looked at each other, but no one got up.

Li Zhi didn't know Yang Menghao, and he couldn't even call out his name, so he said curiously: "Didn't someone say that Cui Youyu was wrong, in that case, why don't you come out to debate." ”

If he knew Yang Menghao's character, he would definitely not say that.

The emperor spoke, Yang Menghao couldn't answer it, and the opponent was indeed poor in donkey skills, and Yang Menghao itself was a very good excuse, and it could be said that Yang Menghao was talking nonsense if he lost, so he enthusiastically asked Yang Menghao to get up and debate.

Yang Menghao understood very well in his heart, secretly disdainful, stood up timidly, and said, "Your Majesty, what Fang just said was said by the kid." ”

Seeing that he was a fifteen or sixteen-year-old offspring, Li Zhi was a little disappointed in his heart, and said with a smile: "Then you can go on!" ”

"Yes."

Yang Menghao scratched his face childishly and said, "The kid thinks that the brothers are actually not right. ”

It is not a loss to be a representative of the opposing side, and it is against itself.

Yu Chi Xiu said quietly: "Do you think what you said over there is not right? ”

Yang Menghao nodded.

Lu Kaiming and others covered their faces one after another.

Li Zhi asked with interest: "Then you should tell me a reason to hear it." ”

Because Yang Menghao was young, everyone treated him with the attitude of an elder, so that he ignored the rules, which made Han Yi, who wanted to drop the hammer several times to signal quiet, so depressed, after all, it was the emperor who always spoke there.

Yang Menghao said: "The elder brothers have been arguing about the meaning of the phrase 'the people can make it, but not make it known', or the opposite, the reason why they are arguing about this point is nothing more than to use this sentence to prove what Sage Confucius means when he says 'the people can make it and not make it known'?" But I don't think that's right. ”

Li Zhi listened curiously and said: "Isn't this debate contest just a debate on the sentence 'the people can make it happen, but they can't make it known'?" ”

Yang Menghao said: "Yes! It is the meaning of the sentence 'the people can make it, but not the meaning of the sentence that the sage Confucius said. ”

The eldest grandson suddenly said in a conflict: "Is there a difference in this? ”

Yang Menghao said: "Of course there is! What does Sage Kong mean, it's hard to argue clearly, after all, Sage Kong has been dead for hundreds of years, what he thought when he said this sentence at the time, I'm afraid only he knows. So I think what Sage Confucius meant when he said this. This is actually not important, the important thing is which meaning is more beneficial to the country and the people, this should be the key point of our debate, if what Confucius said can not benefit the country and the people, should we also obey it? Therefore, I think we need to see what this sentence means, so as to benefit the country and the people. Then this sentence should be what it means, not what Confucius personally meant. ”

It's-!

Let the audience be stunned, like an empowerment, like waking up from a dream.

Many ministers nodded frequently, this kid is very smart, he said it very well, quite right, this Confucius has been dead for hundreds of years, what does he personally want to express. Does it matter? There is no value in arguing about what Confucius meant personally, and the key is whether this sentence can bring benefits to mankind today.

It's kind of interesting. Li Zhi laughed a few times and said, "You are right, it should be so, it should be so." As he spoke, he whispered to the eldest grandson Wuji on the side, "Does the captain know who this son is?" ”

The eldest grandson Wuji looked familiar, but he couldn't say who it was.

The eldest grandson Yan on the side said, "Your Majesty, grandfather." This person is the young son of Guan Guogong, Yang Menghao. ”

"Guanguo Gong."

Li Zhi smiled: "Sure enough, it's a tiger father without a dog!" ”

Tiger father without dogs?

Eldest Sun Yan really didn't dare to agree.

Zhao Tianfu looked stupid. This - when did Xiao Meng become so powerful.

Yang Menghao saw everyone's surprised and happy expressions, and his heart was so proud, and his self-confidence was also expanding rapidly.

Liu Hanyu said suddenly: "Even so, what you said has nothing to do with this debate competition, and it is not enough to prove that your opposing point of view is correct." ”

Li Zhi nodded and said, "Your words are not enough to prove your point of view, let alone to refute the other party's point of view." ”

Yang Menghao said: "I don't think the positive view can benefit the country and the people. So whether this is what Sage Kong means or not, they should all be wrong! ”

Cui Youyu put away his contempt and said, "I want to hear and see." ”

Yang Menghao scratched the back of his head, looking afraid.

Li Zhi was curious: "Why don't you say it?" ”

Yang Menghao said timidly: "Back to Your Majesty's words, the kid has been talking since he was a child. I often talk nonsense, so my father often reprimanded me, telling me to be cautious, to speak less, not to speak, especially in front of my elders. I'm afraid I'll talk about it and talk nonsense again. ”

Many people laughed out loud when they heard it, is this Yang Menghao, talking nonsense, bragging and not making drafts.

But this is already halfway through, and what was said earlier is very insightful, if you don't say it, you won't suffocate people to death.

Li Zhi smiled: "It's okay, it's okay, no matter what you say, I will forgive you for your innocence." Just say it. ”

A flash of light flashed in Han Yi's eyes, and he smiled secretly, I was really born to be useful!

"Thank you, Your Majesty. That'sβ€”then I'll say it. ”

Yang Menghao smiled, showing his naivety to the fullest, and said: "I understand it this way, the positive point of view is that the people don't need to study, and our point of view is that everyone should study, whether it is poor or rich." In other words, it's about whether everyone should read. Then it depends on whether everyone's reading is beneficial to the country and the people. ”

Li Zhi nodded and said thoughtfully: "It's not wrong that you understand it this way. ”

He said it very simply, but very clearly, at the end of the day, it is whether everyone should be educated or not.

Yang Menghao said: "I think that everyone can benefit the country and the people by reading, because I like to deal with readers, and I don't like to deal with ignorant people. ”

Pei Shaofeng said: "That's just you." ”

Yang Menghao asked rhetorically: "Aren't you, Brother Shaofeng?" ”

Pei Shaofeng was speechless.

Yang Menghao said: "Everyone likes to deal with learned people, and they don't like to deal with those mountain villagers who don't know a single word, because they don't understand reason, they scold people at every turn, and beat people at every turn, which is very barbaric." I also often hear my father say that the famous saying of Taizong Sheng, with the ancient as a mirror, you can know the rise and fall. So from the Qin and Han dynasties to the present, all dynasties have prospered and declined, and there have been rebellions, and many of them were initiated by ignorant farmers.

I think this is because those farmers are illiterate, illiterate, and don't even understand the most basic truths, anyone who gives them a bite to eat, they will be willing to swear to follow, for those evil ministers and thieves to drive, if they can understand the **** can not move, mighty and unyielding, will they still eat the food that comes from it? Moreover, since ancient times, loyal and righteous people have all been people who have read poetry and books, and there seems to be no exception. ”

Li Zhi frowned when he heard this, revealing a thoughtful expression.

Han Yi's eyes swept away, and the corners of his mouth showed a slight smile.

Yang Menghao grabbed his head and said, "So I think that only those ignorant people are easy to be used by others to do those big rebellious things. Let's talk about the recent rebellion of Chen Shuozhen in Muzhou, I heard my father say, in fact, many people are not victims of Qingxi County, they are just confused by Chen Shuozhen's demon law, so they rebelled together, I thought Chen Shuozhen was really powerful, but then I heard my father say, that Chen Shuo really just made some tricks and tricks, but this can confuse tens of thousands of people, which surprised me, if it was me, I wouldn't believe it, if Chen Shuo was really a fairy down to earth, then she would directly change some food to the people, why let the people go to the battle, and so many people died, this is not what the fairy does. Besides, I haven't read a book for a few years, and I'm sure no one who has read it will believe it. It can be seen from this that a country with more foolish people will bear greater risks, because these people are too easy to be used by treacherous people, and only by popularizing education and allowing everyone to distinguish between right and wrong will the people not be deceived by others and will not easily listen to the provocations of traitors, and such a country will be the most stable. ”

The more he spoke, the more he arose, and continued: "The simplest fact shows that if the monarch is at fault, the ignorant will only use violence to solve the problem, because they cannot think of any other way than violence, while the talented will know how to persuade the monarch, and this is the danger of ignorance." Returning to the meaning of this sentence, 'Zi said: Flourish in poetry, stand in ceremony, and become happy.' Zi said: The people can make it, but they can't know it. ’

I believe that poetry and music represent only the basic qualities that a people should have, not just poetry. Whether it is a farmer, a scholar, or a businessman, they should all have these basic qualities, such as loyalty, patriotism, integrity, bravery, integrity, kindness, and backbone. Is it correct if someone says that they are a businessman and therefore can be disloyal to the monarch and patriotism? Of course not.

Therefore, I think that our viewpoint can benefit the country and the people, popularize education, educate without class, and let everyone have basic literacy. What kind of ancient saying has clouds, horses do not lie in the calendar, and they cannot follow the Tao; If the people are not literate, they cannot rejuvenate the country. ”

Zhao Tianfu curled his mouth and said: "Xiaomeng, it's 'if you don't have literacy, you can't respect the country'." ”

Yang Menghao said: "It's all the same, it's all the same." ”

Han Yi exhaled softly, good boy, it's not in vain for me to fool you, you owe me a day trip to Zhongxiang, even if it is paid off.

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