Looking at Chang Juan's hand pointing at his nose, Li Ziyuan didn't get angry, just shook his head and said, "Instructor, I understand what you mean and think." But these two people, we can't stay. Because we don't have the energy to take them with us, or we don't have the energy to watch them. ”

"We can't stay here for long, we have to keep moving until the sweep of the Japanese puppet army is completely over. In this case, it is not appropriate for us to take them with us. If they escape, all of our hiding spots in the eastern mountains of Hubei will be exposed. ”

"Of course, if I can send it to the military division, I will not hesitate to send it away. But now we can't get them away, so I can only get rid of them. These two people, one is a North Korean and the other is an old traitor, and they want to turn their minds around, which is not something that can be done in a short time. ”

"Even if they can do their jobs, who can guarantee that they are genuinely working for us, or if they are fooling us to save our lives? Even if you do a good job, they turn their faces as soon as they come out of the mountain, how can you help them? These two guys, I don't believe they're going to be able to get through your job in such a short period of time. ”

"Instructor, you don't want to think about it. This advance team newly trained by the devil is a rather confidential matter. The Chinese who can be transferred here as translators are at least quite trusting to the devil. These people, in particular, were sent to the special services of the North China Front Army for screening and special training. ”

This can only show one problem, that is, this traitor is definitely the kind of hardcore traitor who is desperate and works for the Japanese. For such a traitor, it is difficult to use it for me. Just like that Wang Tieshi, there is almost no possibility that we want to rebel against him. ”

"Because they see the contrast of strength between us and the Japanese puppet army very clearly. They won't risk losing their heads to work for us. Especially since we don't have a lot of money, it's basically impossible to convince them to work for us under the premise of buying them. ”

"Unless they were sent in by our enemy ministry before. Otherwise, it's going to be hard to get them to work for us, especially if you do their job in a short period of time. The national righteousness and national security that we value are not for these people. For them, nothing is more important than glory and wealth. ”

"In their eyes, there is nothing shameful about being a traitor, it's just that whoever is strong will give his life to whomever he is. As long as they can get the benefits they want, they don't care about reputation. For these people, there is only profit in the eyes and nothing else. ”

"You didn't see it when I interrogated me before. If I hadn't done something about it, that guy would still be going around me in circles. You were there during my interrogation and you said I had violated discipline, but if we hadn't taken those measures, we wouldn't have gotten anything until now. ”

"What's more, in the hearts of many traitors, we are far less powerful than the Second World War Zone in the west and the Central Army in the south. One of them is orthodox, although he was temporarily frustrated, but he is strong and well-equipped. One is the king of Shanxi, who has ruled Shanxi for decades, and his power is deep-rooted. ”

"And we are not even a ragtag army, we don't have money for money, we don't have guns for guns, we don't even have a few people, and we don't even have a regular establishment. The poor are about to fall out of scum, and there is no future for us to mix. They may be able to work for both, but it takes a lot of effort to work for us. ”

"At present, the Japanese puppet army's sweep of the eastern mountainous area of Hubei is still continuing, and we have to move frequently. Take these two captives to fight guerrillas, and if one of them can't stand it and run away, the harm will be too great. Or being rescued by the devils is not a good thing for us. ”

"You don't want the tragedy of Wangjiagou to happen again in other villages, including the one we are in now. Leaving them behind is a hidden danger, and if you want to do their work, it will not be effective for a while. What do you want me to do? Take them to fight guerrillas, as you say? ”

"The most important thing is that these two traitors, even if we have done our job thoroughly, have agreed to work for us. But have you considered the things that the devils themselves keep strictly secret. Once these two traitors reveal their experience of being captured, will the devil still put them in such an important position? What good would it do to us if the devils sent them somewhere else? ”

"I really don't know how to do enemy work. But I know we have to be ruthless when we need to. If we can't do it, then it will bring endless disasters to the fellow who took in and sheltered us. Especially in this kind of tug-of-war between the enemy and us, there will be endless troubles. ”

Speaking of this, Li Ziyuan paused for a moment and said, "Instructor, there are some things I don't want to say, because if these things are said, it will affect our morale." At present, some of these traitors do not clearly see the real things and meanings behind this war. ”

In their eyes, the anti-aggression war we are currently waging is no different from the Manchu Qing Dynasty's entry into the Central Plains, and the Japanese are not much different from the original Qing army. If the Japanese want to rule China, they can't do without people like them. ”

"Just like when the Qing army entered the customs, the occupation of the whole of China was not so much dependent on those Manchurian Eight Banners as on those officials of the Ming Dynasty. As long as the Japanese could guarantee their interests, they would serve the Japanese rule like the Ming officials who had defected to the Qing army. ”

"There are even a large number of people among them who think that the Japanese coming to China really help China become rich and strong, and Chinese as long as there is help from the Japanese, they will definitely become a strong country like Japan." Don't forget that in modern Chinese history, there was a considerable period of time when Japan was used as a teacher. ”

"The development and progress made after the Meiji Restoration in Japan are in stark contrast to modern Chinese history. The so-called East Asian co-culture and the same species propagated by the Japanese, the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere also confuse some people. At the same time, Japan's development since the Meiji Restoration has also made many people think that Chinese should also follow the path of the Japanese. ”

In the minds of these people, they thought that the Japanese had come to China to save China. They worked for the Japanese in order to free China from the near poverty and weakness of modern times and to develop China into a so-called power like Japan. There are not a few people who have this kind of thing in their heads. ”

"Instructor, there is also a difference among traitors. It is true that most traitors are for the sake of profit and glory and wealth in their eyes, and such traitors include most people. Such people, whoever gives them great benefits, they will work for whom, this is the so-called milk is a mother. ”

"Such a person, Liu Kaishan, the pseudo-plainclothes captain in Hubei, is one of the representatives, and maybe Wang Tieshi is also half. But people like Wang Tieshi are still not exactly the same as Liu Kaishan. There is no difference between the two people in terms of who gives the most benefits, who serves whom. ”

"But on the other hand, there is a difference between the two people. A person like Wang Tieshi, who was born as an old-fashioned old military officer, should belong to the kind of person who has a gun above all else. In his opinion, having a gun means having strength, and if the gun is gone, he will have nothing. This guy plays for the Japanese, and it is estimated that half of the reason is that he wants to expand his strength. ”

"His secret stockpiles of weapons and ammunition, enough to equip a regiment, I don't think it's just for sale, at least some of them have other plans. Compared with Liu Kaishan, who is simply a mother with milk, this guy is a little more incomprehensible to me. ”

"Well, I feel that this guy is fierce and cunning, but he does some things very smartly. Under the condition that the Japanese have such a tight control over the puppet army, they can still maintain a certain degree of independence. He can even find a way to create greater benefits for himself by bribing the upper echelons of the Japanese army. ”

"This cannot be said to be none, but it is definitely very few, among the local puppet armies that are generally completely dependent on the Japanese. He was able to rely on the Japanese to expand his strength, but he did not let the Japanese control it too tightly. Destroyed the original security regiment and handed over the wounded soldiers of the Sichuan army, but this is not enough to show that he has completely fallen out with some parties. ”

"The same puppet army, the puppet Jinnan founding army, the Japanese strictly controlled it by sending advisers. And his pseudo-garrison, the Japanese never sent so-called advisers. The most important thing is that he has the final say in the adjustment of officers, which is not an easy thing to do. So I feel that this guy is not just for profit. ”

"As for most of the people, especially the puppet soldiers and little traitors below, they are just for food. Some of the soldiers who led their troops to the enemy were in order to preserve their strength. There is even intrigue in some aspects, causing some miscellaneous troops to simply join the enemy and act as traitors in order to survive. ”

"But some people become traitors, but for their so-called ideals, the kind of people I am talking about. Well, just like us. This kind of person is the most difficult to change and rebel, and it is also the most stubborn. I don't know if that traitor is this kind of person, but I know that he may be this kind of person. ”

Li Ziyuan's words made Chang Juan stunned, she never thought that there would be so many kinds of traitors, and there were so many things to say about the rebellion of the pseudo-military and political personnel. Some pseudo-military and political personnel are still the same as themselves, and they still have ideals and will to be traitors? This traitor, how many reasons can there be?

Most of the puppet soldiers, because they have a fixed salary to get when they are puppet soldiers. And for a local puppet army like the garrison, the treatment can be described as quite good. Being a traitor is just to eat with a mouthful, Chang Juan still knows this. But when a traitor still has ideals, Chang Juan can't understand this.

As far as Chang Juan's original understanding is concerned, for those pseudo-military and political personnel, they cannot look at the level of their positions, and they still have to fight for what they can fight. For hardcore traitors like Wang Tieshi and Liu Kaishan who are willing to fight for the tiger, they must be resolutely eliminated. But now Li Ziyuan actually told her that the fight for traitors also depends on their starting point of being traitors.

There are some hardcore traitors, which are definitely not as simple as they seem on the surface. Li Ziyuan's remarks subverted Chang Juan's views on those puppet military and political personnel who were willing to serve the Japanese invading army. Li Ziyuan said these things, she never thought about it.