Ye Xianggao couldn't imagine that Yang Lian would be so blunt, and couldn't help but arch his hand: "When it comes to openness, it's not as good as Wen Ru." ”

Zhu Youxiao also arched his hand and said: "Yang Qing's words can be said to be in one sentence. There are people of insight in Donglin who oppose the party struggle, but Donglin has to fall deeper and deeper into the abyss of party contention and cannot pull it out. It may seem like a paradox, but I think it's easy to understand. ”

"The biggest problem of Donglin people is the debate between gentlemen and villains. The gentleman and villain were originally only used to distinguish between nobles and commoners, and had no moral meaning. When the most holy person comes out and proposes to be pro-gentleman and far from villain, it only points out that we should strengthen our moral cultivation and move closer to the direction of the gentleman. That's a hope, not a standard, and doesn't require everyone to be a gentleman. ”

And the sage did point out the difference between a gentleman and a villain, like a gentleman who is frank and open, and a villain who is a relative. The gentleman is in righteousness, and the villain is in profit. But the sage did not completely deny the villain, and wanted to make the world a gentleman. “

However, the people of Donglin have taken this to the extreme. As long as there is a difference in political opinions, they call each other villains and consider themselves gentlemen. I am very dissatisfied with this approach. There are a few people in the world who can be called gentlemen, why are you Donglin people gentlemen, and others are villains? Is this standard set by you Donglin people? Who gave you this power? ”

"Donglin people are good at coercing public opinion, and always say that their own opinions are the opinions of the people. The opening of the mouth is the anger of the world, the people are evil, and the world is said to be killable, just like the face of the spokesperson of the world. Can your small group in a province represent the people of the world? ”

Zhu Youxiao's voice became louder and louder, and the faces of Ye Xianggao and Yang Lian became whiter and whiter. Both of them are understanding people, and listening to what the emperor said, although some places may be a little biased, but on the whole there is no problem. Since the formation of the Donglin Party, it has been fighting with the Chu Party, the Zhejiang Party, the Qi Party, and even the Emperor.

Wei Zhongxian hurriedly handed over the tea, Zhu Youxiao took a sip and drank it all, and then said: "Are the Donglin Party members gentlemen?" Looking at this dossier, I am afraid that it may not be. According to the standards of a saint, how many gentlemen can there be in this world? In my opinion, there is a group of hypocrites in this world, but it is better to have a group of real villains. ”

Ye Xianggao was shocked: "Your Majesty, this is ...... said."

Zhu Youxiao said with a smile: "Master Ye said that I am so wrong? Please listen to what Master Ye has to say and see if it makes sense. The gentleman is virtuous, and the villain is the soil; The gentleman is punished, and the villain is favored. What do I think is wrong with Huaitu Huaihui? The gentleman asks for himself, and the villain asks for others. If there's something you can't solve, what's wrong with asking for help? (Note, this sentence has been interpreted differently.) ）

"We can't ask all the Ming people to become gentlemen, and we can't all become gentlemen. Isn't it good that a gentleman is poor? Why don't you make your life a little better through your own efforts? That's why I said I'd rather the world be full of real villains than be all hypocrites. ”

In this way, Ye Xianggao had no way to refute it, but he was still a little uncomfortable in his heart. Yang Lian said: "Your Majesty means, don't be too demanding of people, even if you are a villain, as long as you abide by the law and can have your own ethics, there is actually no problem." ”

Zhu Youxiao said: "Yes, don't mention any ethics, just say it's the bottom line." As long as the villain pursues what he wants to pursue, he does not hurt others, and that is fine. If everyone in the world can do this, then Daming is really like heaven, why do you want so many gentlemen? Blaming others? ”

Ye Xianggao also said: "Yes, Donglin people have an obsession, that is, they hope that everyone in the world is a gentleman." But I didn't expect it to end up like this, this dossier looks so ironic. ”

Zhu Youxiao smiled: "We sometimes work hard in one direction, but in the end we find ourselves in the other direction, which is very normal. Especially when the direction of the effort is inherently illusory, the disillusionment of not being able to achieve the goal will make the ideal completely shattered, and then go to the opposite of the original goal. ”

"Like some people who think that everyone in this world should be equal. There is nothing wrong with that, every human being, in terms of dignity, in terms of life, should be equal. But they feel that they should also be equal in terms of property, which is a bit paranoid and unreasonable. In the end, they will find that this is a goal that can never be achieved, and then they will first pursue the equality they need, that is, their property equality above others. The Donglin people's delusional desire to establish a country of gentlemen in the Ming Dynasty is very similar to the pursuit of these people. Then the last one went to the opposite of his own pursuit, and he became an out-and-out hypocrite, as evidenced by the above dossier. “

Yang Lian asked with some confusion: "What Your Majesty said is that Donglin's initial discussion of gentlemen and villains finally led to the current result?" “

Zhu Youxiao said: "Yes, the starting point of Donglin Xianxian's idea is good, I want gentlemen everywhere and the world is the same." However, this idea is not necessarily correct in itself. As I just said, the equality of property for all people in the world is not right, at least for a predictable period of time, then the idea is wrong. “

"Donglin people should put their efforts on a goal that can see results. For example, everyone can understand the importance of abiding by the law, so that everyone can have a relatively decent and dignified life. It's hard, but at least you can do it with a lot of effort. And if you want to make all the Ming people become gentlemen, as long as there is no water in your head, you will know that it is impossible. “

Ye Xianggao and Yang Lian didn't understand why their heads were flooded, but it didn't prevent them from understanding Zhu Youxiao's basic meaning. The emperor's meaning is that the people of Donglin are too fond of empty things and do not fall on the ground.

Although the crux of the problem is pointed out, it is extremely difficult to change it, and it is not something that can be solved by issuing a holy decree. Ye Xianggao said: "Your Majesty, you have always emphasized practical results and ignored empty words, even if you are from Donglin, some people have already understood. This is evident from the fact that Zuo Shilang changed his habit of criticizing current affairs in the past and turned to study the water conservancy situation in the north. ”

Yang Lian said: "If there is something good at the top, it will be very bad at the bottom." ”

Zhu Youxiao said with a smile: "Yang Qing's words are reasonable, I want to change Donglin according to my own ideas, and I have to ask the two Aiqing to help." ”