In the blink of an eye, Hahn Putmans was able to figure things out. www.biquge.info First of all, the Spaniards' plan to collude with Zheng Zhilong and intend to seize Batavia is very likely, and even most likely true. Economically and politically, the Spaniards were the number one enemy of the Netherlands, and it was only natural for them to do so, and Jaén Putmans even felt that if he were a Spaniard, he would not have missed such an opportunity. However, he also immediately realized that Zheng Zhilong was not too optimistic about the Spaniard's plan. Or maybe the plan didn't impress him. Otherwise, Zheng Zhilong would not have used such an important matter as a bargaining chip for negotiation and pressure at this time. He couldn't help but think:

"If I were Zheng Zhilong, if I had been persuaded by the Spaniards to join forces with the Spaniards to fight Batavia, what would I do? I would probably be engaged in peace negotiations with the Dutch, entangled in some details, and at the same time quietly send a fleet, declaring that it was going to sweep Liu Xiang, and then, when it was estimated that the fleet had made peace with the Spaniards and had reached the coast of Batavia, I would slap the table and accuse the other side of the insincerity of peace, and then declare war......"

Although Jaén Putmans was sure that the attack on Batavia was wishful thinking on the part of the Spaniards, it was not unguarded. Hahn Putmans felt that the most important reason why Zheng Zhilong did not agree to join forces with the Spaniards was probably that he felt that he would gain less benefit from doing so than peace talks with the Dutch. But if he does not get the benefit of peace talks with the Netherlands to his satisfaction, I am afraid that he will at once collude with the Spaniards.

"General Zheng, you should know what those Spaniards are." While spinning in circles in his head, Jaén Putmans began to desperately denigrate the Spaniards. Anyway, as a Dutchman, scolding Spain is a common thing, and you don't need to know much brain at all to do this kind of thing, basically just open your mouth.

"You may not know, Your Excellency, that the Spaniards have no faith at all, and that their history is a history of deception. When they accepted the surrender of the Moors and Jews of Granada, Queen Isabella, who they called the most upright and greatest king, made a solemn promise that the Moors and Jews of Granada would continue to preserve their faith and wealth. However, when Granada surrendered the keys to the city's defenses, the Spaniards immediately changed their minds, and they immediately issued the so-called Edict of the Alhambra, announcing the expulsion of the Moors and Jews and confiscating their wealth unless they converted their faith.

When the Spaniard Pizarro was in South America, they first attacked the peaceful Incas, and then pretended to negotiate peace with the Incas, but during the negotiations, they attacked the Incas, killed the Inca ministers who followed the Inca king to negotiate, and captured the Inca king. Then the shameless serpent shook its letter and deceived the Incas that he would release the Inca king if the gold they gave him filled a room 22 feet long, 17 feet wide, and 8 feet high. Once again, the poor Incas believed it and gave him almost all the money in the entire treasury, but when he got it, he immediately broke his promise and killed the Inca king. General, this is not the most despicable. You may not know that there were no epidemics such as smallpox and typhoid fever in the New World, so the natives there were not resistant to these diseases. Pizarro - the mention of this name would make anyone with even the slightest hint of conscience sick - he took advantage of the constant sending of emissaries to the Incas to negotiate, and constantly gave him the opportunity to send gold to the Incas, and to give the Incas cups, plates, and so on, what smallpox and typhoid patients had used. Then when they returned, they contracted the plague, and they died in large numbers. Then the Spaniards took the opportunity to attack, and in the end the entire Inca was destroyed, and millions of Incas either died of illness or were killed by the Spaniards.

Also, Your Excellency, as you may know, the Spaniards massacred Chinese nationals in Luzon more than once. People all over the world know that Spaniards are poisonous snakes, and their words are absolutely not credible. Today the Spaniards will enlist the general to attack us, and tomorrow he will turn his face and harm the general. ”

"Well, I don't have time to listen to you tell you these ancient stories." Zheng Zhilong shook his head and stopped Jaén Putmans' tirade accusation against the Spaniards, "And you Dutch have done a lot of untrustworthy things. ”

"Okay, General Zheng, let's go back to the original topic, what I mean by unfair means that this way of trading is unfair to you, General. Instead of accusing the general of your qualities, we all know that the general you are virtuous enough to be canonized. You see, your Excellency, every trade between us will give you a profit, but not the Spaniards, who will get less, if not less, in their trade than with us. Isn't that unfair to you? Moreover, the presence of Spanish ships, including Spanish warships, in the waters near China will also bring with them similar problems as the appearance of our ships in China's coastal waters, and besides, the presence of His Excellency General in East Asia will benefit all seafarers and merchants. The Spaniards are also the beneficiaries, but isn't it unfair that they can take advantage of you for nothing? ”

Hearing this, Zheng Zhilong couldn't help but smile, because the development of the situation had actually become as similar to what his son Zheng Sen had imagined. When extrapolating the prospects of the negotiations, Zheng Sen suggested that the Dutch might find a way to direct the Zheng family's target to Spain, and even Zheng Sen predicted that as long as the Zheng family could be allowed to target the hostile target at Spain, even if it was a harsh Chinese version of the navigation regulations, the Dutch would not be completely unacceptable.

"What you said is not unreasonable, and the direct proximity of Spanish ships to China will indeed cause a lot of trouble. In addition, in order to maintain the safety of China's nearby waters and shipping routes, my expenditure is indeed very large, and the beneficiaries should indeed be represented. I believe that the Dutch are reasonable, and will be able to understand this and set an example for other countries to follow such an order. Do you say? Zheng Zhilong said with a smile.

In previous discussions with Zheng Sen, Zheng Sen put forward this view: "For us, there are no permanent friends, and there are no permanent enemies, only permanent interests. Now at least off the coast of China and Japan, neither Spain nor the Netherlands is our opponent because of supply and port restrictions. And it will always be good for us to provoke a struggle between them. Therefore, it is the right thing to do when the Netherlands is weak to unite with the Netherlands to suppress Spain, and when Spain is weak, to unite with Spain to suppress the Netherlands, so if the Dutch are willing to make corresponding concessions, then we should unite with the Netherlands and deal with the Spaniards. ”

At that time, Zheng Zhilong also asked: "What if the Dutch and the Spaniards see it and the two of them unite against us?" ”

At that time, Zheng Sen replied like this: "It is not necessarily useful to see clearly, because the Netherlands and Spain are too similar, their positions in trade are almost identical, and their peers are enemies." Moreover, on a larger scale, the contradictions of Spain in the Netherlands were much sharper and more serious than those on this side. Therefore, although the possibility of the two of them uniting is not impossible, it is not very large, and even if they do, it is not particularly difficult to break them up. When the Warring States was in the Warring States period, the six eastern countries also united to fight the Qin State together, but what was the result? Everyone wanted the family to go up first and work hard, picking peaches in the back, but in the end, nothing was done, and the alliance was broken up. If the Netherlands and Spain want to unite, there will certainly be only such an outcome. ”

Since he has such a judgment, Zheng Zhilong naturally will not really object to the Dutch's attempt to pull himself to suppress Spain. And after hearing Zheng Zhilong's words, Hahn Putmans also let out a long breath, he knew that his mission could be regarded as more than half successful. As long as there are no problems in some of the following details, it can basically be regarded as done.

"General Zheng, I think your opinion is very reasonable, and our East India Company admires your magnanimity very much, and understands your requirements very well. However, the Spaniards may not have understood the general's good intentions. However, I am confident that if we can unite the two sides, the Spaniards will eventually understand and support our position. Haan Putmans concluded.

Of course, there will be a lot of details after the negotiation, such as the cost of renting a ship, such as the quantity and price of goods provided by the Zheng family to the Netherlands, such as how much each ship should pay to fight piracy and maintain the safety of the route, etc., but obviously, such a detailed issue does not need Zheng Zhilong to discuss, as the boss of the group, Zheng Zhilong will determine the general direction and build the big framework, and the rest of the things can naturally allow Zheng Zhifeng and Zheng Cai to negotiate with the Dutch in detail. Zheng Zhilong believes that since both sides are very sincere about the peace talks, these issues should be able to be negotiated quickly.

"I hope that our cooperation will be smooth in the future, and there will be no misunderstandings like the previous ones. For specific things, you can talk to my younger brothers Zheng Zhifeng and Zheng Cai. Zheng Zhilong finally said to Hahn Putmans.