Chapter 615 Jin Shang Thoughts
Listening to Fan Yongdou's question, Yan Congnian hurriedly told him what happened to him, and even the matter that the Ming army wanted to make a deal with Qing Yongchang was also explained in 1510, which was more detailed than what Fan Yongsheng said.
"I see!"
Fan Yongdou listened to him, he was silent for a moment, Yan Congnian and Fan Yongsheng didn't say anything, knowing that Fan Yongdou was thinking, he must have something to ask, and the two of them waited for him to think it through.
Secretly reached an agreement with the Ming army, for the Qing Dynasty, the Fan family was a collaborator, this is a major matter that has lost its head, and it is necessary to think clearly and weigh the interests before making a decision.
After half a ring, Fan Yongtou glanced up at the two of them, and did not answer about the transaction, but suddenly asked, "Third brother, what do you think of the current situation?" ”
Fan Yongsheng didn't expect to ask him, although he and Fan Yongdou are brothers, his eldest brother is very strict and majestic, although he is a three-in-command, but in fact he is no different from a shopkeeper.
He didn't feel sluggish, sat up straight, and said seriously: "Is the eldest brother talking about Jiangnan?" ”
Fan Yongsheng nodded, "Then let's talk about Jiangnan first!" ”
If you ask somewhere else, Fan Yongsheng may not know, but Jiang Nan has known a lot in the past two years, and he has a better bottom in his heart, but he is very melancholy, "Big brother, I think Jiang Nan will not be able to do it this time." ”
"How?"
Fan Yongsheng is mainly responsible for purchasing supplies for Qing Yongchang in Jiangnan and Zhejiang, so he is very familiar with the dynamics of the people, and it is precisely because of this understanding that he ran from Jiangning to Yangzhou.
Fan Yongsheng sighed: "Last year, Jiangnan was in a good place, the form was still very good, Governor Hong exterminated the rebels entrenched in Taihu Lake, and the Heaven and Earth Society was also suppressed, Jiangnan gradually stabilized, and our business was easy to do." But this year, the Qing Dynasty failed again and again, especially this time the attack on Chu and Jiangxi failed, the soldiers and horses were damaged, and none of the ships built last year were brought back, and now the Ming army has controlled the Yangtze River, and the imperial court cannot cross the river even if there are soldiers. The Ming army of Chu and Jiangxi is currently cultivating its vitality, so it did not take advantage of the victory to go east, but I think that in another year at most, the Ming army will definitely fight Jiangning. This time, I was from Yuhang to Jiangning, and I found that the people were also menacing, and the undercurrent was surging, and many people had already prepared net towels, just waiting for the Ming army to come, and Jiangnan was afraid that it would not be able to be saved. ”
Fan Yongdou nodded, "Water warfare is not the director of the imperial court, since ancient times, the north is good at horse warfare, and the south is good at water warfare, and it has always been like this for thousands of years." This time, the imperial court lost in Chu and Jiangxi, in addition to the loss of soldiers and horses, nearly 100,000 young people in Jiangnan did not come back, which made the people's resentment boiling, and the imperial court in Jiangnan is a short attack and a long one, it is indeed difficult to have a chance of winning. Looking at history, the Western Jin Dynasty died, the Eastern Jin Dynasty continued for a hundred years, the Northern Song Dynasty died, the Southern Song Dynasty was partial to more than 150 years, and now the Ming Dynasty is dead, but Wu has Wang Yan, comparable to Han Yue, Wen has Zuo Maodi, Su Guansheng, comparable to Li Zhao, maybe the Southern Ming Qi is not exhausted, and it is not known. Before the imperial court was able to win Jiangnan, because Zuozhen rebelled in the east, and the four towns surrendered, and they were able to win Zhejiang, it was thanks to the Tang and Lu rivalries, and it was Zheng Zhilong who rebelled, which was all due to luck. Now it seems that the luck of the imperial court is probably running out. ”
Yan Congnian was shocked when he listened, he read little, his level was limited, and he didn't see problems as sophisticated as Fan Yongdou, "What does the big boss mean, is the Qing Dynasty really not good?" How powerful is the Eight Banners Iron Cavalry, how many years has it been under the pressure of the Ming Dynasty, even if it has destroyed the rebellion of the Ming Dynasty, it is not the opponent of the Eight Banners, why can't it be done now? ”
Fan Yongdou sighed: "We businessmen must also understand the trend of the world, otherwise we will stand on the wrong side, and there will be a catastrophe in the future." It's not that the Eight Banners can't do it, but that the Southern Ming Dynasty is changing, just like the Southern Song Dynasty at the beginning, it was also pressed and beaten by the Jin State at first, and then it became stronger and stronger. The Eight Banners were originally outside the gate, they were small but strong, and their strength could be concentrated, such as clenching their fists to attack. But now after entering the customs, how vast the world is, the power of the Eight Banners will be dispersed, if you stretch out your five fingers and poke people, you will inevitably miss. After all, the Jurchens are outnumbered, and now they can control the Central Plains, not because of the power of the banner people, but with the support of the officials and gentry such as Liaodong Jiangmen and Governor Hong, I think this trend has begun to reverse. ”
"Big brother, isn't it..." Fan Yongsheng was shocked when he heard Fan Yongdou praise the Ming Dynasty, but after saying half a sentence, he hesitated.
Fan Yongdou smiled slightly: "You and my brother, what else can't you say?" ”
Fan Yongsheng was silent for a moment, and then asked Zhengse: "Didn't the eldest brother feel that the fortunes of the Qing Dynasty were sluggish, and he intended to take advantage of Wang Yan's proposal to make contact with the Ming Dynasty and show favor to the Ming Dynasty?" ”
This betrayal of the country, the Fan family has done a lot of work, since it has been sold along with the Ming of the clan, selling a foreign court, there is no pressure at all, the more Fan Yongsheng thinks about it, the more likely he feels, his eldest brother is probably thinking about going ashore, or betting on both sides.
Fan Yongsheng also had this kind of thought, and was tempted to get the benefits that could be obtained by secretly trading with the Ming Dynasty, but when the matter came, he was very hesitant and scared, after all, the Manchu Qing Dynasty was not as easy to fool as the Ming Dynasty, if the Manchu Qing knew that the Fan family secretly communicated with the Ming Dynasty and did not try it, they could be destroyed directly.
Fan Yongdou sneered when he heard this, shook his head and said, "What my Fan family has done, do you think there is a way back?" ”
"What about the deal? And this Jiangnan trend? Fan Yongsheng didn't understand, Fan Yongdou said that the Qing Dynasty was not good, but he didn't mean to show favor like the Ming Dynasty and bet on both sides.
"Deals are naturally made." Fan Yongdou said coldly: "The trend of Jiangnan, since it cannot be reversed, the imperial court estimates that it will not be able to hold Jiangnan, then my Fan family's industry in Jiangnan must be withdrawn as soon as possible, and I must take advantage of the current collapse of prices in Jiangnan to take the opportunity to loot it, so as to strengthen the financial resources of my Fan family." ”
"Since it's a deal, you have to give money to the Ming Dynasty, isn't this secretly helping Ming?" Fan Yongsheng was puzzled.
Fan Yongdou said with a smile: "My Fan family's position of supporting the Qing Dynasty will not change, but first of all, the Qing Dynasty can bring benefits to the Fan family, and the Jiangnan Qing Dynasty cannot keep it, in fact, it is also beneficial to our northern clan." Jiangnan is a place full of humanities, but whenever the dynasty is unified, it won't take long for the imperial court to be controlled by these southerners, which is also the reason why we couldn't fight the Jiangnan family before the Jin merchants. During the Chongzhen period, our north was eroded like that, just because there was no one in the court, and the government was controlled by the southerners, so the northern taxes were still increased. Our secret trade with the Ming Dynasty may not be good for the imperial court to guard Jiangnan, but it will be good for my Fan family and Jin merchants. ”
"Big brother, if the imperial court loses Jiangnan, a tax-paying land, and Nanming gets Jiangnan, won't it be stronger. What if Nanming wants to go on a northern expedition at that time? Fan Yongsheng said worriedly.
Fan Yongdou groaned slightly, and then said: "When the Qing Dynasty entered the customs at the beginning, he didn't think that he could occupy Jiangnan by going south, like Prince Su's faction, he thought that it was enough to recover the territory of the Jin Kingdom and divide the north and south. However, for the sake of their reputation, Governor Hong and others instigated the Qing Dynasty to go south, plus the support of the regent, and the Ming Dynasty was also uncontested and collapsed at the first touch, so the Qing Dynasty also recognized the regent's strategy, but now it seems that the road is wrong. After our Fan family withdrew from Jiangnan this time, we should have more contact with Prince Su in the future, so as to promote the division of the north and the south. The first is that the Eight Banners are still there, and the north is a plain, which is where it comes in, and the second is, from ancient times to the present, the Jin people crossed to the south, failed to return north, the Song people crossed to the south, Hangzhou was Bianzhou, and the Ming people crossed to the south, and it must be the same. ”
When the Fan family talked, Yan Congnian couldn't interject, but after listening to it, he really felt that the big boss was powerful, "The big boss's grasp of today's situation is really admirable to the villain, if the big boss can enter the court, I'm afraid he will at least be a governor." ”
"We businessmen have a low status and are often regarded as fish and meat, so we must have insight into current affairs and rely on the strength of one party to survive, how can we do without eyesight."
"Big brother, how can you talk about this deal with the Ming Dynasty?"
Fan Yongdou thought for a while and said: "The Ming Dynasty is strong, it is not in the interests of my Fan family, I have worked hard since I read it, and I will go to Wuchang once, and the price of the negotiation must be suppressed, and our Fan family will not give grain and grass, only silver." This matter is secret, and you two must not leak the news. Third brother, you return to the south bank, such a big matter, you must make it clear up and down, and Governor Hong can also test it a little. ”
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