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"Since everyone asked me to say it first, I'm not welcome to that kid.

First of all, I have to say that our decision to send troops was too hasty. ”

Pang Long fired at Liu Zhang first.

Although Liu Zhang's face was a little ugly, he still pretended to be quite calm. It's not the first time I've been criticized by my apprentice.

Pang Long continued: "Because it was a hasty decision, many of our army's preparations were not sufficient, the supply of materials, equipment and supplies were not sufficient, and even the understanding of the enemy situation was not sufficient. Knowing ourselves and knowing the other, we are a mess in knowing the other, and we also overestimate ourselves in terms of knowing ourselves, thinking that we can cope with the Hun cavalry, the Xiliang cavalry, and the tiger and leopard cavalry of the Cao army. So, first of all, this dispatch of troops was the biggest mistake in itself. It's a decision-making error. ”

Pang Long didn't give Liu Zhang face at all.

"Secondly, go too far ahead.

Since it was decided to send troops, it was necessary to have a careful deployment. Obviously, however, our army's entire military operation was very hasty and hasty, completely ignoring our army's own shortcomings and malaise, and directly going out to fight at a position as far away as Gaoping, without arranging a corresponding safe return route or making any preparations for response, so defeat was almost inevitable. Knowing that Cao Jun and Xiliang Jun both have an enmity with us, we still send ourselves to other people's mouths, do you think others dare not bite Ah.

This is a mistake in military deployment. ”

The two points that Pang Long said, the first is whether or not to send troops, this is nothing to discuss, Liu Zhang feels that troops should be sent. Second, the front is too far. This is indeed debatable. If you go too far, your supply line will be long, and your own battlefield preparations and war preparations will be very insufficient and hasty. Moreover, it will be infinitely more difficult for you to turn back and retreat.

Liu Zhang's original intention was that he was afraid that the Huns would go around and harm the common people, so he tried to move forward as much as possible.

But in fact, as long as Liu Zhang's banner is lit outward, the Huns will definitely go straight to Liu Zhang.

So this point is quite pertinent.

"Third, there is not enough understanding of the enemy's situation.

We didn't have a detailed understanding of Cao Jun's tiger and leopard cavalry, we simply thought that Cao Jun's cavalry had not been built for a long time, and thought that the opponent had few soldiers and was easy to bully. As a result, hard nails were hit.

The main responsibility for this lies with me.

Okay, that's all I have to say. ”

Because Pang Long is a soldier, in charge of military affairs and intelligence, military intelligence is what he should be responsible for.

Next is Wei Yan's speech.

I didn't say that much. Let me just say that at present, our new army, on the plain, is not enough to fight against well-trained cavalry, such as the tiger and leopard cavalry of the Cao army, such as Xiliang Ma Teng Han Sui, etc., and even the Hun cavalry. I am not speaking for the enemy, everyone knows the equipment of the new army, mainly bows and crossbows. But the bow and crossbow, when encountering heavy cavalry like the tiger and leopard cavalry, the power is greatly reduced. Moreover, in the plains, the speed of the cavalry is too fast, even if it is a light cavalry, if the crossbow arrows cannot hit the vital parts of people and horses, it will not be able to stop the opponent from advancing at all. ”

What Wei Yan said was actually the main problem for the new army against cavalry on the plain.

Whether it is a light horse or a heavy horse, on the plains, if the speed is too fast, and the crossbow arrow misses the vital point, the opponent will still rush over, and the general defensive formation will not be able to stop it at all.

"Let's tell me what I think. Our rear army was on the north bank of the Wei River, and the first battle with the tiger and leopard cavalry of the Cao army, as Wei Yan just said, the opponent's ability to charge the formation was too strong, and our army's crossbow arrows could not be suppressed at all, so in the future, if there were no fortifications, we should avoid fighting with the cavalry in the plains. In addition, our army lacked the ability to fight in close combat, and after the enemy cavalry rushed up, our army was basically the object of slaughter, although our army stubbornly supported each other, it was still killed very badly. ”

Zhang Ren said: First, the existing firepower of the new army is difficult to suppress the cavalry like the tiger and leopard cavalry to charge into battle; Second, after the cavalry rushed up, the new army had no good means to deal with it.

This is a stubborn disease inherent in the Forces nouvelles themselves.

"Then I'll tell you what I think.

I think that when our army finally retreated, we chose the wrong direction for the breakthrough.

According to the situation at that time, Cao Jun returned to Qi County, and Xiliang Army returned to Tianshui. However, although the Cao army had few people, it basically returned to the division with the whole army, while the Xiliang army returned to the division with a small number of troops, and most of them went to copy the back road of the Huns. Because our army did not have enough control of the dynamics of the entire battlefield, it made a misjudgment and chose Cao Jun as the direction of breakthrough. In fact, since the Xiliang Army divided its troops from the north to the south, and the main force went north, it shows that they are still more afraid of our army. Therefore, at that time, the Xiliang Army should be chosen as the direction of breakthrough.

Second, in the long run, the Western Liang Army is an enemy that our army must solve, and our army will inevitably enter Liangzhou, and the Western Liang Army cannot coexist in Liangzhou. Fight in the morning and evening. However, we chose Cao Jun, which is equivalent to us competing with the two tigers of Chang'an, and both of them have suffered a great loss in strength, so that the fishermen of the Xiliang Army have benefited. Cao's army was better, they didn't want to enter Liangzhou in the first place, but it had a great impact on our army. Our army fought with Cao's army this time, which greatly damaged its vitality and seriously affected the progress of our army's subjugation of Liangzhou. From this point of view, it is also a big mistake for us to choose Cao Jun to break through. ”

What Fa Zheng said, although it is a bit of hindsight, is also very reasonable. Even if you don't consider factors such as battlefield intelligence, anyway, the Xiliang Army is the biggest enemy in the future, so why let the Xiliang Army not fight, and run to fight with another unrelated opponent, no matter if you win or lose, don't you still want the Xiliang Army to fight when you turn around.

After the discussion, there was a lot of gossip, and you and I said a word, and dozens of opinions were put forward.

In the end, Fa Zheng summarized and sorted it out.

Putting aside the mistakes in strategic decision-making and the like, the remaining key points are mainly the following:

First, the attack of the new army is not lethal enough.

This manifests itself in two ways. On the one hand, it is difficult to form effective casualties when encountering armored cavalry. Even the crossbow is mediocre. On the other hand, the firepower of the new army is insufficient, even if it is an ordinary cavalry such as light cavalry, when it rushes up quickly, the density of crossbow arrows is not enough, and it is difficult to effectively suppress it. In fact, if a crossbow arrow is fired at a person or horse, if it is not a vital part, it does not immediately make a person or horse lose their ability to move. Therefore, a cavalryman can still rush up and kill people with a few arrows.

Second, the new army's current tactics are all based on the mode of positional warfare based on fortifications, and it has not yet formed an effective fighting method by fighting encounters with cavalry on the plains. With fortifications, the soldiers can be well defended and shoot more accurately. If there are no fortifications, there will be casualties all around, people will be nervous and make mistakes, and the strength and hit rate will drop a lot.

Third, the new army needs to have a certain degree of melee combat ability.

Fourth, it is difficult for the new army to fight a protracted war, and military resources such as crossbows and arrows are a major problem.

Fifth, it was a mistake to choose Cao Jun. The focus in the near future should be on the Xiliang Army. If you always fight with Cao Jun and let the Xiliang Army sit on the big side, then Liangzhou will never be able to take it back. (To be continued.) )