Although the clan is now shocked and has a lot of ideas in his heart, when he is not clear about the process of Nobunaga's reform, he will not rashly support or oppose it, especially he must understand what Nobunaga's attitude is towards a daimyo like himself who has a lot of territory, after all, this is related to his own vital interests, so he only heard him ask: "My lord, my subordinates think that abolition of the emperor is secondary, after all, although this matter is important, it is not a difficult matter." The main thing is how to solve the war, only by calming the country can we unleash our full feet, which is the most important thing for my subordinates. ”

Although the clan said nothing, but Nobunaga was very satisfied, because the clan did not oppose the reform, did not oppose the abolition of the emperor, then it proves that he supports himself, this is also the most important, with this premise, then everything is easy to say, Oda Nobunaga said: "This is very easy to solve, I think you did a good job at the beginning, as long as you redeem the land and give enough compensation, it's fine." ”

"But my lord, that's what my subordinates did at the beginning, but they failed." The clan clan hurriedly said, if he really let Nobunaga spend money to redeem the territory back, he would still be a fart, he really regrets it now, what kind of reform did he make, if he didn't reform Nobunaga for a while, how would he think of this method.

I only heard Nobunaga say confidently: "That's because you don't have enough prestige, if it were me, then this kind of problem would never have happened." ”

After hearing this, the clan really felt speechless, and his prestige was not enough? His prestige in the Takayama family is much stronger than Nobunaga's prestige in the Oda family, and he is real. And Nobunaga was just imaginary. Let's talk about the clan itself first. Once Nobunaga really dares to do that, without the need for others to rebel, the clan itself will raise the banner of rebellion, and when the time comes, it is estimated that even the two fathers-in-law who have always been loyal will definitely fall to their side, to Asai, Nagamune, a force that is not of the same mind as Nobunaga, and when the time comes, you don't need to think much to know their choice. Others such as monkeys. Tokugawa or something, if you don't reverse it, it's weird. After all, who is willing to hand over the rights in their hands.

So what the clan has to do is to nip Nobunaga's idea in the bud, and definitely not let it take root, otherwise it will really not be fun in the future.

Therefore, the clan sect did not hide it, and said directly and boldly: "Lord, please forgive your subordinates for being rude, this idea of the lord, my subordinates cannot agree with it." ”

"Huh? Do you dare to go against my will? Nobunaga immediately asked with a straight face.

"The subordinates don't dare, but if the lord insists on going his own way. Then although the subordinates will have no choice but to accept it, the subordinates can guarantee to the lord. Not only will the world not be stable, but it will cause greater war again, after all, the world has become accustomed to the current way of life, if it is a tough change, it will inevitably cause great changes, of course, the subordinates do not doubt that the lord has the ability to calm the world, but the lord has thought about it, how long will it take? It will take at least ten years, and even if it is pacified, after the war, it will be in ruins, not to mention development, it will take at least ten years just to recover, please think about it carefully, with twenty years, just to return to the original point, is it worth it.

And the subordinates have implemented this policy, and they have a deep understanding of this, although the retainers don't say anything, but they are extremely resentful in their hearts, the reason is that this is tantamount to depriving them of hope, and at first the subordinates didn't know why they were opposing, and then the subordinates figured it out, what was the purpose of becoming a samurai, and it was not for the glory of the ancestors, and to enjoy everything that the power brings, and once the new policy was implemented, they had nothing but money, how to glorify the ancestors, and most of the samurai did not take money very seriously, It would be an insult to them to even exchange their territory for money, and if the lord really wanted to do this, then it would be better to abolish the samurai class directly. ”

Nobunaga couldn't help but take a breath of cool air after hearing this, eliminating other forces is not difficult for the Oda family, and even if he wants to, he can occupy the whole country by force and completely achieve the goal of the world's martial arts, but no matter how he can't do it, he also knows that it is completely impossible to abolish the samurai class, because he himself is a samurai, and abolishing the samurai is equivalent to abolishing himself, so although the words of the clan are not what a subordinate should say, Nobunaga does not blame, and secretly thanks the clan in his heartIf these words hadn't woken him up, then once he did this, he knew that he would become the public enemy of the samurai all over the world, even the retainers under his command, and this was the first time he didn't think that the retainers would not betray him.

Nobunaga's idea of redeeming the territory was completely extinguished in Nobunaga's heart after the clan said it strongly. However, although this method does not work, then it is necessary to find a way to work, Nobunaga is not a person who gives up halfway, so I just heard him ask: "What you said seems to have some truth, but since this does not work, then you have a way to achieve your goal without causing turmoil in the world." ”

"This, forgive my subordinates for being stupid, I haven't come up with it yet." Don't say that the clan doesn't have any good ideas, and even if there is, he won't tell Nobunaga, and he now thinks that in this era, it is completely impossible to reform, at least there is no way to achieve results in a short period of time, if you want to reform, then take at least a hundred years, three generations of efforts, first improve their own strength, let those forces see, if you want to develop, you have to do this, so that you don't need to change, they will follow suit, and in a few decades, the purpose of reform will be achieved.

Nobunaga just asked casually, even if the clan was so intelligent, it was impossible for him to come up with a new way in such a short time, so he didn't continue to dwell on this issue, but he turned back to the topic just now, and only heard him say: "Okay, since you didn't think of it, then continue to think about it after you retreat." For now, let's talk about the emperor first, the existence of the emperor will definitely affect future reforms, and no matter what method is used, it will be a major obstacle, so there is no room for negotiation on this point. After speaking, his glasses stared directly at the clan, which was to remind him with his eyes, hoping that he would not say anything against his will.

Now the idea of the clan is that if Nobunaga wants to abolish it, then abolish it, but not now, at least until he captures the Kanto region, this clan will not give up, after all, the abolition of the emperor is not as big as the impact of redeeming the territory, but it will inevitably cause a riot, and he must stop it before he has enough strength.

Thinking of this, I only listened to the clan said: "For the abolition of the emperor, the subordinates do not have too many opinions, everything is in accordance with the wishes of the lord, but the subordinates believe that now is not the best time to abolish the emperor, the reason is what the subordinates just said, although the impact of abolishing the emperor is much smaller than the redemption of the territory, but it will inevitably lead to the rebellion of other forces, and the lord will definitely not allow them to exist at that time, so war is inevitable, and this is a battle of faith, such a war is a war of life and death, There will be no defeat and surrender phenomenon at all, in this way, if you want to exterminate them, you need to spend more money, lose more troops, and the time of the war will be greatly increased, rather than this, the subordinates have a way, that is, the lord may wish to eliminate them first, and then abolish the emperor, although only a change of order, but the effect is indeed different, first, they do not have the belief of resolute resistance, in this way, it will be much easier to eliminate or subdue them, and secondly, after achieving the goal of the world's military force, the whole world is the lord's, so there will be much less resistance to the abolition of the emperor, and the speed of achieving the goal will undoubtedly be much faster. This is the opinion of the subordinates, and I don't know what the lord thinks. ”

Nobunaga thought about it carefully, and also felt that the clan's proposal was more suitable, since it could achieve the same goal at a smaller cost, and when it took about the same time, why should he refuse? Besides, his main purpose is to get support, and now that he has the support of the clan, then it is equivalent to achieving the goal, what does it matter if he is one day earlier or one day later, and with the current strength of his family, it is only a matter of a few years to sweep the world, and he can still afford to wait for a few years. After Nobunaga made a decision in his heart, he only heard him say, "If you say what you say, do as you say." ”

What do you mean by doing what I say, if this word spreads, then you will become a public enemy of the world, which is much more difficult than the enemy of Buddhism or something, if you don't get it right, you will end up ruined, what do you want. So I heard the clan sect hurriedly say: "The subordinates don't dare to take credit, this is the method that the lord came up with, and the clan sect just changed the order, so the subordinates implore the lord to take back this word." ”

"Haha, okay, I'll take back what I just said." Nobunaga didn't guess the true purpose of the clan, or he didn't bother to guess at all, especially since the clan has always done great things for the family without taking credit, which has been deeply imprinted in Nobunaga's heart, so the clan's words, Nobunaga didn't think of the original intention of the clan.

The moment he walked out of the assessment room, the clan only felt a cold sweat on his back, if it wasn't for his own argument just now, he broke Nobunaga's mind to redeem the territory, then the general trend of the world would be out of control, and he had to rejoice, Nobunaga finally compromised, of course, the clan had to compromise on the abolition of the emperor, which was also a political exchange, which made the clan feel very excited, before he could only obey the situation, and now, he finally has the strength to bargain with Nobunaga. Of course, the current strength is not enough, and Nobunaga will compromise more because he feels that he can't do anything, but after he captures Kanto, he really has such a right.

The clan thought about it again and again, and walked out of the castle tower again. (To be continued.) )