Wen Tiren thought so, waited for a while, and didn't see any other colleagues reply to the emperor's words, so he played himself: "Your Majesty, the Ming Royal Cement Company, the Daming Construction Bank, etc. are all geniuses, which make the ministers admire them so much. Now in the matter of weapons, the ministers also listen to His Majesty. ”

When he said this, if what he had guessed before was correct, then what he said must have played into the emperor's arms; If the previous guess is not correct, then the emperor will be angry and say, "What are you doing with these shit? Well, you bunch of waste, Wen Tiren is not alone.

Hearing his words, the other courtiers followed suit, if there was another thing like the cement company, all the ministries would be wiped out, and everyone would naturally like it.

Emperor Chongzhen listened, glanced at Wen Tiren, and thought that Shoufu knew himself best, so he said slowly: "I do have an idea, since you all have no other way, then I will talk about it!" ”

As soon as they heard this, everyone glanced at Wen Tiren, and then listened together.

I only heard Emperor Chongzhen say: "The War Bureau and the Ordnance Bureau will no longer directly allocate funds to start construction in the future, but will be responsible for their own profits and ......losses."

As soon as he heard this opening, all the courtiers were stunned. This statement was unprecedented, and they had to concentrate on listening.

"That is to say, the War Bureau and the Ordnance Bureau have to rely on their own strength to win orders. For example, the armor of the new army needs five thousand pairs. First of all, the War Bureau and the Ordnance Bureau will each send samples to the new army, and the new army will select the favorite armor, if the products of the War Bureau are excellent, the War Bureau will start manufacturing, and the Ordnance Bureau will not have these 5,000 pairs of armor to do......"

Hearing this, many ministers reacted, this seems to have become a business?

"The new army pays a deposit in advance, and in the end the armor accepted is the same as the sample, and the balance is paid; If there is something shoddy, the war bureau will not get the remaining money, and may even lose money because of the delay. ”

When Emperor Chongzhen said this, he slowly glanced at the courtiers below, and finally looked at the three corpses on the ground, and then continued: "In this example, if the War Bureau successfully completes this transaction, the money earned will be owned by the War Bureau. Of course, this money needs to be taxed, and in addition to this, it can be used to improve the treatment of stewards and craftsmen, and to develop sharp weapons to make better weapons for the new army to buy. Probably this is the way of thinking, do you have any questions? ”

To put it bluntly, this idea is also very simple, that is, no longer let the War Bureau and the Ordnance Bureau eat a big pot of rice, let these two departments compete, and the interests of everyone in the department are related.

After Emperor Chongzhen asked, for a long time, Min Hongxue first asked: "Your Majesty, before purchasing this weapon, was it given to the new army in advance?" ”

"Yes and no." Emperor Chongzhen immediately answered his questions, "This money was allocated to the new army on paper, but it did not go through the hands of the new army, and it still existed in the household department. But the use of this money will be decided by the new army. If the transaction goes well, the War Bureau and the Ordnance Bureau will be able to receive the money from the household department on the basis of the transaction contract. ”

In this way, it is possible to avoid the possibility of corruption when the money goes directly into the hands of the Forces nouvelles. Min Hongxue nodded in his heart, and immediately asked: "What if the new army deliberately makes things difficult or only picks the armor of the Arms Bureau or the Ordnance Bureau according to preference?" ”

He is the only one who has experience in leading the army to fight wars and has rich experience in local politics, so these questions are very critical, so that other colleagues can't help but nod when they hear it, and see how the emperor answers, whether he will be asked.

However, Emperor Chongzhen had already thought about it, so he was able to answer immediately: "This requires the War Bureau and the Ordnance Bureau to make a set of standards for testing the quality of products, such as armor, how heavy it weighs, how strong the defensive force is, and there are clear normative parameters, which can be divided into qualified, good, and excellent." At that time, the selection of samples and the inspection of the final product must be based on these standard parameters, try to eliminate personal preferences, and someone has the final say, but the parameters have the final say! ”

When Min Hongxue heard this, he couldn't help but praise it in his heart. In fact, there is a great deal of corruption in these two problems. However, the emperor's method can well solve the situations caused by corruption in his heart.

For example, it is impossible for a general to reap the money in his hands; It is also impossible for the people of the War Bureau or the Armory Bureau to let the generals choose their own armor through behind-the-scenes deals. Although it may not be 100% eliminated, at least in Min Hongxue's view, this method is better than the old law of direct appropriation supervision.

Nan Juyi, the secretary of the Ministry of Industry, did not see the emperor accountable, but devoted himself to discussing the new law, he was also relieved, and after hearing the dialogue between the auxiliary minister Min Hongxue and the emperor, he couldn't help but follow along: "Your Majesty, if the Ordnance Bureau has not been able to get the order, what should I do?" ”

When Emperor Chongzhen heard this, his eyes turned to him and said, "Unless the Ordnance Bureau keeps coming out of these shoddy things, there will definitely be orders." In addition, there is also an idea, for example, the Ordnance Bureau is good at firearms, so it specializes in this area and develops more powerful firearms. In this way, if the Ming army wants to configure firearms, it must be ordered from the Ordnance Bureau. That is to say, the Ordnance Bureau and the War Bureau will not communicate with each other in the future, and the products developed by themselves will be kept strictly secret, and if others steal them, I will never spare them. ”

This statement implying the patent of later generations refreshed the cognition of these courtiers. Many people looked at each other with surprise in their eyes.

Emperor Chongzhen looked at the Ministry of Industry Shangshu and continued to say something related to him: "The Ordnance Bureau was originally responsible for the ambassador, Zheng Jiupin, this is not good, in the future, the person in charge of the Ordnance Bureau will be renamed the director, Zheng Wupin, directly under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Industry, and other people, etc., shall not be asked." The same is true of the War Bureau, which is under the direct management of the eunuch in charge of the celebrant and the seal. ”

Cao Huachun on the side heard this, and couldn't help but feel a little surprised in his heart, and at the same time a little envious. That Wang Dehua made him a benefit.

"Your Majesty, this ...... Is this being taken too seriously? When Nan Juyi heard this, he asked a little hesitantly.

The ambassador was originally a Zhengjiupin, and he played a very small role in the Yamen of the Ministry of Industry. Suddenly it became a positive five products, and the most important thing is that in the future, it will be directly under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Industry, and this status will change dramatically.

When Emperor Chongzhen heard this, he immediately shook his head and said categorically: "Military weapons are the important weapons of the country. In the future, the director of the Ordnance Bureau will have more powers and responsibilities, and must be responsible for the Ordnance Bureau's own profits and losses. The change in functions and official positions is indeed a bit big, which is also the original intention of me to change the name of the ambassador to the director. ”

Nan Juyi listened, his brows furrowed slightly, in this way, what about the others?