"Why are you so sure that the Mongols are going to attack us! Do you have a certificate? They have been fighting fiercely with the Jin State for many years, and even if they want to invade the south, they have to cultivate and recuperate, which is the art of war! Being so sarcastic and sarcastic by Hong Tao, as well as the contemptuous expression on his face, Wen Nan finally couldn't hold back and argued with Hong Tao.

"Yo Yo ...... The art of war is here, hey! Didn't you say that you are not in your position and do not seek political power, why are you playing the art of war again as a diplomat? Also recuperate! The Mongols will not kill all the people of the Jin Kingdom, there are many Song people in the Jin Kingdom who surrendered from the time of the Liao State, aren't those sailors we caught in Dengzhou just that? The Mongols need to rest, and those Song soldiers don't need to rest, right? They knew better than the Mongols how to attack cities. Have you ever heard of this saying, a flock of sheep leads a lion, and it becomes a flock of lions; A group of lions leads the sheep and becomes a flock of sheep. Let's be more popular, a general is incompetent and exhausts thousands of troops! Isn't it like a herd of lions commanded by you sheep to tell you how to fight the war, not to mention that you and your fellow scholars have never even been on the battlefield, not to mention that they are honestly managing the country at home? Do you think that the Han people in the north, commanded by the Mongols, will not be able to defeat you sheep, are you too optimistic? Disembarked! You still want to sit on the boat and let me pull ashore! "Hong Tao is very annoyed by this kind of person who doesn't know how to pretend to understand, he himself will never do this kind of thing unless he wants to harm others, this is a lack of morality that harms others and himself, and it is very hateful.

"The reckless military force can only be used for a while, not for a lifetime, and the Han people in the north will still care about our dynasty and will not be willing to be driven by the Mongols!" Wen Nan is very unaccustomed to Hong Tao's way of speaking that does not save face at all, and talks about problems when he talks about problems. Why do you want to go straight to the heart of someone else? This is very ungentlemanly. But Hong Tao is obviously not going to be diverted by his will. Not only did he say this, but the more he spoke, the sharper he became, and one question after another spurted out of his mouth, like a small knife, stabbing his heart extremely uncomfortable.

"You don't have a backache when you stand and talk, if I grab your mother's neck and force you to attack the Southern Song Dynasty, will you go? If I don't go, I'll cut everyone in your family alive with one sword. Do you dare not go? Also Nima's heart is tied to my dynasty, have you asked people? People have long forgotten that there is any Southern Song Dynasty court, and they are under the rule of Liao, Jin, and Mongolia, so why do they still care about your dynasty! Just because you didn't fight well, you buried all the land, and by the way, you also threw people to the enemy country, and you have to think about you all the time, right? Isn't that a cheap bone for the ages? If you let your parents abandon you when you were a child, and then I raised you, provided you with school, provided you with food and drink, and provided you with a wife and children, and you didn't even know who your parents were, would it be because of a person who claimed to be your biological father? Pick up a knife and stab me in turn? Amusing! Do you know what human nature is? I beat you every day and starve you, and you are afraid of me. You have to work for me honestly, that's human nature! Whoever gives food and who gives the future will follow him, this is human nature! Your emperor said that he was sent by God and returned the mandate of Nima, do you believe it? Why did God send it and let Liao capture it? Could it be that the emperor of Liao was sent by a greater God? You tell me, how many layers are there on this day? Hong Tao is a broken mouth, and he doesn't even need to think about it, and while he installed his handmade spinning wheel on the baleen rod, he didn't forget to squirt out a small knife from his mouth and stick it into Wen Nan's chest. Every time this happens, he feels very happy and happy!

"......" Wen Nan simply stopped talking this time, and turned his head to look at the river, but the violent rise and fall of his chest betrayed his mood. It's not that he doesn't want to refute, but he can't refute Hong Tao. Although these words may sound rude, they are true, and as long as you don't raise the bar for the sake of raising it, you can understand the truth when you think about it. Wen Nan happens to be not a bar, he prefers to use reason to persuade people, but the hateful thing is that he can't find a reason in favor of himself for a while.

"Actually, why don't you talk about it here, and you can't make the Mongols take half a step back, so don't pay too much attention to these words. But I'm not a person who can just talk about it, you have your theory, I have my theory, fortunately both of us are implementing our own theory, so it's easy to judge the truth and falsehood, and it will be measured by time. It's not been a short time since you've been here, so let's talk about it, how am I doing here? Hong Tao put a small piece of whale meat on the hook, threw the hook with the copper pendant into the river with a shake of his hand, and then stuck the rod in the small hole in the side of the boat, and picked up another rod to repeat the action just now.

He made a total of seven fishing rods of different thicknesses out of whale baleen, carved seven spinning wheels of different sizes out of whale bones, kneaded them into thin threads with silk, and then kneaded multiple strands of silk threads into thicker silk threads, which were wound around the spinning wheels to form fishing lines. It doesn't matter if the strength is not enough, you can make it thicker, the fish of this era are also stupid, they don't care about the hook and fishing line at all, there is food that comes up is a mouthful, and it is very easy to fish.

"No distinction between the young and the old, no distinction between dignity and inferiority, there is no way to talk about governance, primitive village ears! The fashion of few people can be like this, not for long! Wen Nan still recognizes Hong Tao's belly, this person has always been a mystery to him. Call him barbaric, but he can treat everyone very equally, even those slaves are not casually bullied, and they don't just talk about it, but also set rules. Let's say that he is reasonable, he is more brutal than anyone else, not only killing people but also killing with his own hands, very cold-blooded. Call him vulgar, but he can say a lot of truths and know a lot of things. Let's say he is elegant, but he is more snobbish than those businessmen, and many things come to him, and they become buying and selling, and even national affairs are measured by how much he earns.

"Well, you still have a bit of vision, you see very accurately, but you made a mistake, which is to be too confident. How do you know I'm going to rule this place in one way all the time? Keep pace with the times, use different methods in different periods, different situations, you should understand this truth, right? There is nothing completely fixed in the world, mountains, rivers and oceans are changing at any time, why can't we change ourselves? Now this model I call it a cooperative, where everyone is equal, the means of production and property are shared, there is no private wealth, it is like a big family, and I and the board of directors are the patriarchs and the presbyterian council. It is true that this method is not suitable for ruling a large country, when people are fed and clothed, there will be higher needs, both material and spiritual. At that point, I will switch to another way, like capitalism, have you heard of capitalism? No, yes, well, I'll tell you what it is. Actually, I don't really know, do you listen to it if it makes sense......" Hong Tao originally preferred to chat with Carl, because he could understand part of his thoughts, but Carl understood it in another way, which had something to do with the environment in which he lived. The reason why Hong Tao is chatting with Wen Nan now is not because he wants to discuss a specific issue, but because he wants to find out what kind of thinking the Southern Song scholar class represented by Wen Nan is. Only by knowing what they think can we transform them in a targeted manner.

That's right, Hong Tao plans to transform the backbone class of the Southern Song Dynasty! This task is very difficult, it is very difficult to convince a person, and it is even more difficult to convince a class. In fact, Hong Tao's pursuit is far more than that, he not only wants to transform the middle class of the Southern Song Dynasty, but also wants to transform the middle class of Europe. He hasn't figured out the specific method yet, and whether he can succeed or not is not something he needs to consider, he just needs to do it, and what the result is is not very important to him. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, you can learn from it and improve your mindset. The vast majority of people can't play this kind of game, since you are lucky enough to play it, then don't live up to this luck, how difficult, how thorough, how enjoyable to play.

"This ...... Isn't this a big business? It's all up to the businessman, it's not feasible, it's not feasible! Since ancient times, businessmen have been profit-seeking, and they have no courtesy, righteousness, and shame, how can they govern the country? Wen Nan listened to Hong Tao babble about the concept of capitalism, half of which he didn't understand, and half of whom he was confused. But he understood the central idea, and it was an unbelievable thing, and he would never agree with it.

"You're hypocritical, the concept of a businessman is not as narrow as you think. What is a businessman? If I write a book and sell it at the book market in Lin'an City, am I considered a businessman? Not counts! Why not, I exchanged my knowledge for money, isn't this also an exchange? Shouldn't knowledge be exchanged? I think the most important thing to exchange is knowledge. If you don't exchange, just you or a few people know that this is still called knowledge? That would not go back to the era when the aristocracy monopolized knowledge! You're not from an aristocratic background, are you? Why can you read and write, and why can you be an official? It's not like you've exchanged knowledge from others, and then used the knowledge to make yourself more capable than many people! What would the world be like if we were all keen to exchange knowledge? Many people will choose to create more knowledge, and then use that knowledge to make themselves respected, fed and clothed. Is it inferior to use your knowledge to make money? Besides, without merchants, what do you eat, drink, and use? They have provided for so many scholars in Lin'an City, and you look down on them in turn, so don't buy merchants' things if you have the ability! "Hong Tao doesn't have a complete set of theories, he is also trying, but he knows the results of many things. It doesn't matter if you don't understand a certain concept, it's still the old way, backwards! Pushing the results theoretically, you can always find clues. (To be continued.) )