Chapter 70: Debate (Guarantee 2)
“…… Hey, there you have it! Let's take Lao Pu's hometown. The big cannibal is far away from us, right? But you can ask Lao Pu, where did the Mongols fight at this time? They had already reached the homeland of the Persians, and further south was Lao Pu's hometown. Most of the places over there are deserts, and there are no large grasslands, which are not suitable for grazing than the Great Song Dynasty, but why do the Mongols still want to grab them? There is also the country of Goryeo, which is full of mountains, and it is not suitable for grazing, so didn't the Mongols go to rob it in the same way? There are still many places in the world that you have never been to, let me put it this way, the Mongols have almost reached Karl's hometown of Great Qin. Who said the Mongols couldn't farm anymore? They don't, but they're good learners. In the past, they did not know how to attack cities, but now they have learned siege weapons from the west, and they have learned to smelt iron from our dynasty, and the current Mongols are not those Mongols who can only herd sheep and raise sheep. Besides, they don't know how to farm, so they can let our people farm. Brother Confucius is from Dengzhou, and his ancestors are also Han Chinese, you can ask him how the Mongols ruled the people in Dengzhou, they don't need to farm, they just need to let me farm the people. As for why they invaded south, I'm not a Mongol chief, so I don't know what they think, but I can give you an analogy. Now there are three or four supply points in Jinhewan overseas, thousands of miles away, and for these supply points, I have burned more than one city and killed more than a few hundred people, and here there are still hundreds of slaves, whom I captured. If they were to ask questions, I guess they would ask me the same question as you do, why did I attack them? You say. Why should I go to their homes? ”
I pondered it for a moment. Hong Tao saw Martini's fat face. Immediately there was a suitable rhetoric. He couldn't understand why the Mongols were expanding everywhere, but he could illustrate this fact with a series of things. In fact, do you need a reason to invade this thing? There is no need at all, the essence of aggression can be explained in just three words, these three words are: I need!
Let Hong Tao start with this, Medtini and Karl also talked about what they knew about the westward advance of the Mongols, and then launched an in-depth discussion on this issue, and the dinner table became a seminar on the international situation. Luo Youde and Vennan are the opposites, and Martini and Carl are the positives. They began to collide with each other with different opinions and different modes of thinking. Old man Weng, Kong Pei and Qi Zu were purely listeners, and they listened to the left and the right, and they didn't have any opinions. This issue is too far away from them, and the environment has not been considered at all, nor has it been considered. Hong Tao stood in the referee's point of view, who said too outrageous, he stood up and corrected it with more modern theories, and then handed the topic back to both of them.
The meal lasted until midnight, and the two sides had not yet debated and understood, trying to persuade adults with fixed thoughts with words. It's very difficult, especially because the environment and geography in which they live are completely different. One question becomes ten small questions as you talk. These ten small problems have just explained three, but they have led to thirty smaller problems that need to be redefined, endlessly.
But Hong Tao is very in favor of this process, and the reason is not clear, as long as you let you say and encourage you to say, there will always be a day when you can explain it, even if no one can convince anyone for the time being, but it can provide another way of thinking for both sides. It doesn't matter if you don't understand it for a while, you can first connect with reality, speak with facts, and then come back and debate again, and then you can reach a consensus on some issues again. Then, more differences will arise, and then we will debate and practice, and the truth will emerge in this constant debate, thinking, practice, and debate. As long as this process is repeated, truths will emerge one by one, and a set of philosophies applicable to this era will be born.
This is also what Hong Tao is happy to see, and this kind of debate must not only not be stopped, but must be expanded, so that more people can participate in it, and more problems will be raised, and the greater the effect will be, and the more extensive the impact on people's thinking. The only thing to note is that there must be a referee, who is not here to determine who is right and who is wrong, but to see who is not guilty of fouls by all sides of the debate. You can't beat people just because you have big fists and you don't convince others, so that others will agree with your point of view, and you must also prevent people from using shady tricks and other ways to influence other people's thinking. At present, Hong Tao intends to act as this referee, instead of using his own ideas to forcibly persuade others, it is better to let them explore on their own, so that the change becomes complete.
However, this venue can't be placed in their own homes, and their wives and children still have to sleep, so Hong Tao took them to the conference hall on the edge of the dock. This room is for meetings, put fruits, snacks, tea and wine on the table, come on, Lao Tzu will play with you to the end, isn't it just to raise the bar, see who can survive whom!
Originally, Hong Tao thought that he, a night owl in later generations, would be better than the Great Song people in staying up late, but he didn't expect that there was more than one person with stronger combat power than him. The sparks of the debate between the two stalwarts of the two different countries, Vennan and Karl, before the Mongols were still over, they opened up a new battlefield in the field of state policy, and as a result, the topic was distorted. This time, Luo Youde partly stood on Carl's side, and Medini stood on Wennan's side in principle, and the chickens outside were all over the place, and these four were like crickets, spraying each other head-to-head, and everyone wanted to forcibly put their thinking patterns into other people's brains, arguing endlessly.
"Ladies and gentlemen! That's all for today, everyone hasn't slept all night, and the discussion of the truth has to be alive to be done, let's disperse, there is time, go back to eat and sleep first, and ...... tomorrow Oh no, let's continue to talk tonight, and I'll try to find a few more directors to talk to you. Hong Tao really can't bear it, if there is a cigarette, he can hold on for another day, just drinking water this stomach can't stand it.
For the next four or five days, every evening, the hall by the pier was brightly lit, and more and more people were willing to come to the debate, and more and more questions were asked. This kind of free-flowing and all-talking-about format makes people in this era very, very interested, anyway, there is no entertainment at home, and raising the bar is their best way to entertain. Hong Tao even called the senior students in the school to sit in on the questions, and it never hurt to listen to them, whether they could understand the questions or not. However, the time should be strictly controlled, and it is necessary to go back to sleep after the morning, and it is best for children not to stay up late.
"Brother Ka, if I can invite you to be a great Confucian, I will be able to convince you!" Luo Youde stayed in Jinhewan for a total of seven days, and when he left, there were many more people who came to see him off than when he came. After a few days of raising the bar, many people have become allies, even if they are opponents, it is not hatred, but an alternative friendship. Before the boat was on board, Wen Nan and Carl, who followed Hong Tao on the boat to send Luo Youde, called the board, he had not yet explained his theory clearly, and felt that his ability was limited, and he was going to pull reinforcements.
"There are also in my country, and if I can call them, I can make it clearer!" Not to be outdone, Karl disagreed with the state model of the Great Song Dynasty in part, which was where he and Wen Nan, the Great Song official, had the greatest disagreement.
"It's okay, after my Navigation University opens, we can hold regular debates in the university, everyone has something to say, anyone can participate, I need to call reinforcements to help you pick it up, no matter how far away it is, sooner or later there will be this day, don't worry." Hong Tao has a pair of panda eyes, and he already regrets guiding them to raise the bar a little. These people are too a**, and I can't bear it as a referee. In addition, they tossed so much, and it also had an impact on the board of directors of Jinhewan, who were originally reluctant to tell their true thoughts and always follow the opinions of the old people, were also a little eager to try, and after seeing Hong Tao, they had to mention their own opinions. Hong Tao has received more proposals these days than in the past few years, isn't this making trouble for himself, the board of directors should develop like this, but the speed is a bit too fast, Hong Tao can't cope with it.
Everything has its two sides, there are many troubles, and there are great gains. In the past few days, it has not been just a matter of playing, and he has done a few serious things, all of which Hong Tao has always planned to do but has not done. Needless to say, the matter of the racecourse was directly approved by the board of directors and authorized to Hong Tao to arrange it, as long as too many Jinhewan manpower was not used. Originally, there were objections in the board of directors of running the school, not against running the school, but against running the school in Ximaozhou, and they preferred to set up this navigation university in Jinhewan, so that the fertile water would not flow into the fields of outsiders. In this matter, Wen Nan helped Hong Tao a lot. Although he was a prisoner, many people still regarded him as an official of the Great Song Dynasty, and on some issues, he still had a lot of weight in his words, such as running a school.
According to Wen Nan's words, the wider the crowd facing this thing, the better, if in addition to the children of Jinhewan in the future, there are many people who become Hong Tao's students, then Hong Tao will speak and support more people, in other words, he can fight for more social status for the Tan family and Jinhewan. Although the Tan family has always lived this lowly life, from generation to generation, no one has ever rebelled because of this, but who doesn't want to fight for an equal status for their children in the future? They may not understand the term equality, but they can understand the meaning. Now that everyone has no worries about food and clothing, they naturally have higher requirements, so the establishment of a maritime university in Ximaozhou has also passed. (To be continued.) )