Chapter 21 Common Position under the Sea Ban

Bonaventura is a little blind, the Franciscans are one step behind, and the Dominican must have had a more in-depth discussion with Chen Shouxu.

Lisheng patted Bonaventura on the shoulder, signaling him to be calm.

"The Governor asked you what your country thinks of the Tatars' recent ban on the sea."

Shou Xuan thought for a moment, "It is not surprising that I learned from the Tatars of the Ming Dynasty and reaffirmed the ban on the sea. The imperial court that controlled China was in the north, and both the Ming and Tatars were very cautious about the sea. Although the sea trade can bring rolling silver, for China, it is always the land and farming. Especially in the north, where the upper classes could not understand the charm of the sea. ”

"The effectiveness of the Tatar sea ban is doubtful for the time being, and we can still receive enough Chinese goods."

"It is true that the effect of the current sea ban remains to be seen, but I can guarantee that the Tatars are far more efficient than the Ming Dynasty, and their sea ban will become stricter and stricter."

Because of the order, the strength of the coastal Ming army was much stronger than in history, and the reason why the Tatars forbade the sea was not only because of Zheng Chenggong.

Li Sheng knew that as the backer of the maritime resistance, the governor of the Nanyang Federation in front of him had a deeper understanding of the Tatar ban on the sea.

"Your Excellency, we can see that the price of silk from China to Manila is rising, and His Royal Highness the Vice-King of New Spain is deeply concerned about this."

"The extra money is the cost of smuggling, or the monopoly income of the Tatar elite."

"The Philippines can afford it for the time being, but when will the price increase be the head?"

"Mr. Leeson. Speculation in the economy, depending on trends. The current trend is that the price is rising, and we can't tell when it will go up. If it keeps rising, there will always be a day when the Manila sails can't bear it. ”

"Mr. Governor, I come from a family of Italian merchants, and believe me, Dominican will have a clear understanding of this. That's why the Governor has asked me to have a full exchange of views with you, and there is no one in the Nanyang region who understands China's policy better than you. ”

"Then I'll get straight to the point. The Ming Dynasty's ban on the sea was weak because the southern upper class, the stakeholder of the sea trade in China, had a strong influence in the Beijing court, and Beijing could not do without the cooperation of the southern aristocracy. But the Tatars were a colonial power, they had officials of their own people, and at worst they were able to fill the vacancies in the lower echelons of the bureaucracy with the northern gentry. The power of the southern Chinese aristocracy in Beijing is still not worth mentioning, so the interests of China's local maritime trade groups are not cared about in the imperial court. ”

The prefect was the end point of the career of most Han scholars in the Tatar court, and there were very few scholars and scholars.

The upper strata of the Tatars were almost entirely controlled by the bannermen, and even the lower-level officials, the power of the northerners was far stronger than that of the southern gentry, and with the exception of Shandong and Tianjin, most of the northern gentry had no interest in maritime trade and did not care about the life and death of the southern people. Therefore, after the effect of the sea ban was not good, an unusually cruel relocation order was issued.

"O God," the three Catholic monks heard, all with crosses on their chests, and the European missionaries faithfully recorded many massacres and sent them to Manila, to Goa, to Madrid.

Order: "You know that the sea castle line off the coast of China is militarily helpless for the Tatars, and they have invested a lot of money and manpower to fight it, but the effect is not good. ”

Li Sheng nodded: "Your Excellency the Governor, the Tatar navy is not very strong, since they can't win on the battlefield, logically speculated, the economy is a viable means." If the Tatars further strengthen the measures to ban the sea, this will harm the common interests of our two countries. ”

Bonaventura: "Your country has a wide range of channels in China, and Mr. Governor must have a way to reverse the decline in trade." ”

"We're working on a plan, and frankly, the only way to do it at the moment is smuggling."

The Spaniards, of course, had a lot of money from farming in the Philippines, but they preferred the cash they brought in by transporting silk and porcelain to New Spain.

The new vice president of Spain in Mexico City is the ultimate beneficiary of Sino-Philippine trade, and successive vice kings have not hesitated to make enemies of the Indian Institute of Madrid.

The Spaniards negotiated peace with the Netherlands, the United East India Company no longer blocked the Sino-Philippine routes, and the Spaniards happily brought silver from the Americas, ready to make a big deal.

The Church, the Filipino bureaucracy invested a lot in it, but the Spaniards found that there were fewer Chinese junk ships than they had been when they were blockaded by the Dutch, and that Manila had to buy from the damned Portuguese profiteers of Macau, and the Portuguese had double the price before. The price of Chinese ships under the control of Shang Kexi and Zheng Chenggong was not much better, but the price of silk smuggled by the Federation was even lower.

The impact of the ban on the sea is far-reaching.

In the original historical plane, the Dutch Lu Ziye is strong, has a good relationship with Japan, and was once Zheng Chenggong's largest trading partner, and was not greatly affected by the relocation and sea ban order.

The Portuguese were in Macao, and they had the land and inland river trade of Xiangshan, and they had Shang Kexi to take care of it, and Macao was outside the scope of relocation. The relocation of the border and the ban on the sea not only had no impact on Macao, but because they had a strong monopoly nature, their lives were quite nourishing. Yao Qisheng, the old bastard, made hundreds of thousands of taels of silver from the Macau business, and of course Kangxi fattened him and slaughtered him.

The British East India Company went to Macau and ate a little leftovers. After Zheng Chenggong turned against the Netherlands, the British East India Company immediately became Zheng Fan's ally, and the British invested a lot of money in Zheng Chenggong, providing arms and silver in exchange for Zheng Fan's silk. The British had always had no good impression of the Tatars, and the defeat of Zheng Fan and the complete destruction of China meant that the British were actually quite injured for a time.

Spain was out of luck, and the Manila galleons were almost paralyzed by the Tatars' relocation to the forbidden sea. The Philippines has lived a hard life for decades, the Spaniards have been reduced from high-ranking rich to dicks, and the Manila galleons have run trade in the South Seas, worked for Batavia, and become dicks who eat Dutch leftovers.

With the efforts and hints of the order in the South Seas, the Spaniards may not be so miserable.

Bonaventura: "Your Excellency, I must emphasize. Smuggling was due to the criminal ban on the sea of the Tatars. ”

Leaning forward, "Your Excellency, we and the Franciscan Society deeply appreciate your exposition on free trade, which is exactly what we are pursuing. I believe there is a lot of common ground between Manila and you. ”

Bonaventura said bluntly: "The Philippines cannot do without the galleon trade, and I will be willing to work together with Your Excellency." ”

Shou Zhi smiled, "Working together, sir, there is still a huge gulf between us. ”

"Maybe that's not a problem, Your Excellency, if there's a chasm, we can close it."

"Domini, I'll take the same attitude."

"I thought foreign affairs were decided by the Governor of the Philippines, or the Vice King of New Spain."

"There is no problem with your understanding, but our opinion with the Franciscans, His Royal Highness the Vice-King also attaches great importance to it."

Shou Xuan picked up the teacup and said, "Please go on." ”

Bonaventura and Lisheng exchanged views with each other, "Your Excellency, our trip and the secret mission given by Governor Fajardo. ”

Li Sheng leaned forward, "Tempting the possibility of peace with your country." ”

"The origin of the war between our two sides is some past events in the Caribbean."

"It's easy to fix the little things."

"What are your conditions?"

"First, release prisoners of war."

"It can only be redeemed, 20 pesos per person, and you will also have to pay for the daily accommodation and food expenses of the prisoners of war during their captivity."

The ransom was less than 20,000 taels of silver, accommodation and food, and there was no lion opening his mouth in order.

Bonaventura immediately agreed, "No problem, can you pay with food?" I heard that Taipei is short of food. ”

"Yes, but only half of them can be redeemed before the formal contract is signed, and returning prisoners of war must swear that they will no longer be enemies of our country."

"I agree. Article 2, your country renounces its military aid to Sulu and withdraws your pirates. ”

"I must state that Captain Barnaby knows some of my men, but he is not one of ours."

Lisheng: "I believe Your Excellency Order has the power to influence Barnaby, don't you?" ”

Orderly leaned back in his chair, "Perhaps." It sounds like I'm all giving in. ”

"What are your qualifications?"

"First, the treaty of peace shall be ratified by Madrid."

"Of course, His Royal Highness the Vice King and the Indy Academy, we will communicate."

"Second, at least half of the trade volume of the Manila sails belongs to me."

"It's only 150,000 pesos, and if you can get that much goods, I don't think it's a problem."

"Mr. Lisheng, I think we should be frank. 150,000 pesos, my country does not need to solve the problem of the sea ban, my domestic production capacity in Nanyang can meet the demand. ”

300,000 pesos was the limit set by the King of Spain for the silver that Manila galleons could carry, and of course it was a slightly stronger order than scrap paper.

Lisheng and Bonaventura smiled, "What do you mean?" ”

"At least 300,000 pesos."

300,000 pesos, or about 27,280,000 taels of silver, which is half of the actual amount of silver shipped by Manila galleons according to the orderly estimate.

"We report back to Manila, I don't think it's a big problem, but the trade volume can't be included in the treaty."

"Our renunciation of the military alliance against the Sulu people cannot be written into the treaty."

Bonaventura: "We've made a separate secret treaty. ”

"300,000 pesos is just the beginning, gentlemen, we have more room to work together."

Li Sheng spread his hands, "No matter how much silver we have, we will not be able to do it." ”

"Goods are also available, I heard that in the king's decree, you have to import 600,000 pesos a year from Mexico?"

"It's at least 600,000 pesos, and you're also interested in our cargo? That's great. ”

"Merchants pick goods, and I'm only interested in one thing."

"What is it?"

"Chilean saltpeter."

Li Sheng: "Hainan missionary rights." ”

Shou Xun looked at Luo Wenzao, "It can only be done by Chinese missionaries." ”

Li Sheng: "Your Excellency, you see, in just one afternoon, the gap between us has been filled by more than half. ”

Orderly raised the teacup.

"Tea instead of wine, it will be the beginning of our friendship, gentlemen."

"This is God's will, Your Excellency."

"I will leave Kuching soon, you can come to Qiongzhou to find me."

"I'm sure that's going to be soon."

The missionaries left with a preliminary agreement, and the two sides agreed that the next round of negotiations would take place in Qiongzhou.