Liu Yun touched his head and smiled, and he didn't know how to answer for a while, did he want to tell Chairman Li Shengde that in a few decades, he would be able to see his portrait on any 100-yuan bill, so he said with a smile, "Chairman, amiable and extraordinary, I feel impressed when I see it."

Chairman Li is also a generous person, and he didn't care much about this matter, thinking that Liu Yun was Lao Jiang's protégé and confidant, maybe he had seen his own photos and files, and it was not surprising that he could recognize him at a glance, so he asked very kindly, "I heard that the Red Army and the Sichuan Army reconciled, or did you suggest it?" ”

Liu Yun didn't dare to respond indiscriminately, so he shook his hands and replied respectfully, "Student, there are also young and frivolous, but I don't dare to be greedy for merit in this matter, it is the defeat of the Red Army and the Sichuan Army in Sichuan, and it happened that the Central Red Army entered Sichuan, Liu Xiang and the Sichuan Army have become cowardly, and I am just pushing the boat along the river."

Chairman Li Shengde also bowed slightly, and it seemed that he did not expect that the Sichuan army was now afraid of beating wolves with a hemp stick, so he asked directly, "Little comrade, according to you, this Jiang should be damned, do you want real peace talks or fake peace talks, this guy used to be in the Qinghong Gang."

After all, Liu Yun is Lao Jiang's protégé, Chairman Li asked the law like this, which caused him to be very embarrassed, and he was speechless for a while, Li Shengde was stunned, and then reacted, so he said apologetically, "I'm sorry, it's my fault, Lao Jiang is your teacher after all."

After all, Li Shengde is a person of self-denial and revenge, and he has the courage to correct his mistakes, which made Liu Yun admire, so he shifted the conversation to the topic, "Churchill of Britain once said that between countries, there are no permanent friends, there are no permanent enemies, only eternal interests, as long as peace talks are profitable, and Chiang Kai-shek is no exception."

Chairman Li is a person who likes to learn, so he chewed Liu Yun's words carefully, and seemed to have gained a lot, so he smiled happily and said with some appreciation, "You people who stay abroad are well-informed, unlike us Red Army, who go round and round in the ravines and ravines all day long."

This is Chairman Li's modest words, Liu Yun did not dare to be serious, and said with a wry smile, "Chairman, even if we drink some foreign ink, we dare not show off in front of you, the Chinese people's own affairs, still have to rely on the Chinese people themselves to solve, but foreign for Chinese use."

"Foreign for Chinese use", Li Shengde's eyes couldn't help but light up, he glanced at Liu Yun carefully, and seemed to be very satisfied, so he asked with a smile, "In your opinion, what is the biggest problem in Huaxia at present, is it possible for the Red Army to cooperate with you President Jiang again in the future?" ”

These questions are not too difficult, but to answer well, it is not easy, Liu Yun pondered for a moment, sorted out his thoughts, and then answered cautiously, "The Red Army and the National Army are like two brothers in a family, and it is common for brothers to fight and quarrel with each other, but after all, blood is thicker than water."

"The biggest problem in China at present is the problem of the imminent full-scale invasion of China by the Japanese devils, this is the autumn of national survival, and the two brothers have no reason to fight again, and they should stop the civil war, unite with the outside world, unite all the forces that can be united, and form an anti-Japanese united front is the only right way."

The more Chairman Li listened, the happier he became, and for a moment he felt like a confidant, but Liu Yun said otherwise, "The Red Army and the Nationalist Army, in the era of Premier Sun Yat-sen, could form an alliance, and when the Japanese devils invaded China for four years, the two armies once again cooperated to resist Japan.

"It has been four years since the invasion of China", Chairman Li Shengde was also sad, looked at Liu Yun fixedly, and said with some feelings, "I think that at the beginning, I was also good friends with President Jiang, and he was still a famous leftist leader at that time, but he made people worse, and now they have become opponents and enemies of each other."

"In the September 18 Incident in 1931, it was said that President Chiang surrendered and betrayed the country, and there were different opinions within the Red Army, but many people were ignorant and ignorant, and they were not even as good as Lu Su in the Three Kingdoms era, and they didn't even know anything about the truth that ministers could surrender to the king, and of course Lao Chiang also had a weak side."

Liu Yun was secretly complacent in his heart, these words were exactly the words of the fourth uncle Liu Yuangeng and Pang Taishi who were fooled in Shanghai at the beginning, it can be seen that the heroes see the same thing, but I heard Chairman Li Desheng say with a smile, "Lao Jiang's weakness is brought from the mother's womb, that is, vacillation and compromise."

"Even compromise has become a sin", Liu Daguan was stunned, why couldn't he understand this, so he humbly asked, "When students were studying in the United States, I heard American politicians say that the essence of modern politics is compromise, and compromise is a sign of a person's maturity."

"Politics is compromise", Li Shengde was also stunned, and soon laughed, and said with some appreciation, "In the Western world, this sentence may be the truth, but in China it can only be half right, if it is a rigid copy, it will be completely wrong, and China has its own unique national psychology."

"National psychology", Liu Yun didn't react for a while, and suddenly a stirring spirit couldn't help but ask silently, "In other words, it is the basic national conditions and basic people's feelings, China has a history of 5,000 years, has a profound cultural precipitation, and the customs of the Western world are completely different."

"In the Western world, there are many nationalities, and every politician is actually a coordinator, and it is necessary to communicate and compromise between different races and nationalities one by one, so how to compromise is the whole of politics."

"However, the biggest difference between China and the West is not only this, Western politicians to a large extent, only have the right to analyze and make suggestions, but do not have the final decision, because the right to make decisions belongs to all citizens, as for the country of China, since ancient times, it has advocated the system of centralized royal power."

"After Qin Shi Huang, the imperial power was even more supreme, and the county magistrates and mayors in various places had the saying that their parents were officials, and even in some places, there is still a tradition of taking officials as teachers, so if senior government officials like Lao Jiang compromised, where would the people still have fighting spirit."

Speaking of which, Liu Yun also understands that Huaxia has a "mentality of being an official", remembering that in the 21st century, no matter how poor the township is, the business of large and small restaurants is very good, especially near the office of officials.

Even after 80 years, not to mention the Republic of China in the 30s, Liu Yun couldn't help but sigh that Lao Jiang was actually not a bad person, but he was in a high position, blindly wanting to learn from the West, but he didn't know the cultural differences, which led people to misunderstand what he did.

Speaking of this, it seems that even Chairman *** himself was thoughtful, and after a moment of silence, he said solemnly, "As an official in Huaxia, the power is very great, but the responsibility is also very great, especially the high-ranking old Jiang, Liu Xiang and Liu Wenhui, etc., the responsibility is even greater."

"They are the leaders of China, they are like the upper reaches of the Yangtze River, their subordinates and people, like the middle and lower reaches of the Yangtze River, the upstream of the river rises by an inch, the downstream will rise by a zhang, or even several zhang, if you do not pay attention to proportion, it will inevitably lead to flooding, and the people will not have a good life."

The metaphor is apt and vivid, the truth is simple and easy to understand, Liu Yun is also very taught, at this time I also understand why the Red Army, why to fight against the compromise of Lao Chiang, because Lao Chiang is in a high position, any point of defect will be infinitely expanded, if no one supervises, the consequences are unimaginable.

At this time, Chairman Li did not look at Liu Yun at all, but had a solemn expression, as if he was saying to himself, "The deceased cannot be traced, but the coming can still be admonished, and the Red Army will surely usher in great development after this tempering, and will never be weaker than the Sichuan Army now, and will also face the choice of responsibility and rights."

Liu Yun hurriedly lowered his head, trying his best to hide the churning in his heart, Li Shengde was too modest, he didn't think of the possibility of unifying the whole country, and he was still at the same level as the Sichuan army, and his heart suddenly moved, if he started to do work on both sides now, there might not be a three-year civil war in the future.

Li Shengde didn't seem to have any interest in talking, patted Liu Yun on the shoulder, and was about to leave, but Liu Daguan was reluctant, and even asked with some hope, "Chairman, students think that you and Chairman Jiang are the same kind of people, the most outstanding figures in China in the past 100 years, and losing any of them is a huge loss to the Chinese nation, why can't you talk openly and honestly?" ”

Chairman Li was also stunned, and seemed to be thinking about this possibility, first shook his head, then nodded, looked at Liu Yun with a confused face, and said with a smile, "You little comrade, you are full of ideas, well, even if I agree, I don't know if you have any way?" ”

Liu Yun was also stunned, yes, how can I get Lao Jiang to agree, take 10,000 steps back and say, even if Lao Jiang agrees, his protégés and former officials, as well as those who support his ascension, absolutely disagree, because the political propositions of the Red Army are not in line with their fundamental interests.

What's more, Lao Jiang is a face-loving person, and if he talks with Li Shengde, if it doesn't help his reputation, how can he agree, Liu Yun looked at Chairman Li bitterly, and his voice was a little hoarse, "Chairman, can you adjust the ideas and policies of your Red Army appropriately?" ”

"After all, the biggest contradiction at present is the contradiction between the Chinese nation and the Japanese devils, and appropriate adjustment will also help the development of the Red Army, the so-called mutual forbearance for the country." It is fundamentally difficult for a strong man to make the Red Army give up its own purpose.

Comrade Lenin once said, "Forgetting the past means betrayal," and asking the Red Army to adjust its original purpose is not a betrayal, but everything in the world, which is eternal and unchanging, and the experience of the Soviet Union cannot be copied, this is the collective cognition of the Red Army at the Zunyi Conference.

Chairman Li suddenly became enlightened that the Red Army's revolution was not for the sake of life and death or the honor and disgrace of themselves or a few leaders, but to understand the Chinese people's upside down and to make the common people live a better life, and that the Red Army's propositions and policies were only means, not ends.

Li Shengde then smiled slightly, his expression was calm and indifferent, and he said loudly, "We, the Workers' and Peasants' Red Army, are not even afraid of death, where are we afraid of adjusting our policies and propositions, little comrade, if you have any good suggestions, please feel free to say them, don't have any other worries."

Such a heart and bearing made Liu Yun shocked, raised his head suddenly, stared at Chairman Li Shengde, and said very sincerely, "Since 1927, although the Red Army has established countless base areas and explored many concepts of governing the country and the people, most of them have been whirled up and down, and they have reaped, only the way of governing the army has gradually matured, and it has become an invincible iron army."