Chapter 166: The Debate of Hao Liang

On the road from Sanqiu of Qi State to Taoqiu of Song Kingdom, Dai Yan, who had re-stepped on the land of Song State, couldn't help but laugh out loud. Pen | fun | pavilion www. biquge。 info

Two years ago, he went to the Qi Kingdom as a hostage, almost facing the threat of death, and now being able to set foot on the land of the Song Kingdom again really made him feel like he was reborn.

When Dai Yan returned to China this time, he brought even more people than he had brought to Qi before. He went to the Qi Kingdom before, and there were more than 100 rangers plus Nongmo disciples with him, and nearly half of them were lost in Pinglu. And this time he returned to the Song Kingdom, but the entire team had more than three hundred people.

Most of these extra people are people who agree with his teachings, respect him as a teacher, and are willing to follow him all the time. The remaining few are some unwilling rangers in the Qi country, who are willing to recognize him as the master and defect to him; The rest were small businessmen who were lured by the technology of the Mo family and wanted to run to the Song Kingdom to develop.

Although the subordinates of the Qi State are good, the Song Kingdom can be regarded as his hometown. really set foot on the land of the Song Kingdom, he really understood what kind of mood Liu Bei was like after leaving Cao Cao! It's really the feeling of a fish in the sea, a bird in the sky, and no longer restricted.

Going straight all the way, passing by Taoqiu, he had no intention of stopping, until he was about to arrive at the outskirts of Suiyang, and saw that there were green mountains and green waters, a leisurely scene! And he also felt that the journey was a little tired, so he ordered the whole team to stop and rest.

As you go up the river, you will see a small bridge in front of you, and there are two tourists on the bridge who are also enjoying the beautiful scenery. Just when he was about to continue moving forward without care, he suddenly found that he knew one of the two wanderers, and it was Hui Shi who had been Wei Xiang!

When he met an old acquaintance, he naturally wanted to go over to say hello, so Dai Yan walked straight to the small bridge.

Before reaching the bridge, another traveler who was with Hui Shi suddenly sighed: "Look at that minnow swimming around in this water, how happy it must be!" ”

When Hui Shi next to him heard this, he immediately retorted: "You are not a fish, how do you know the happiness of fish?" ”

When the wanderer on the side heard Hui Shi's rebuttal, he asked the same rhetorically: "You are not me, how do you know that I don't know the happiness of fish?" ”

Hui Shi replied as a matter of course: "I am not you, so naturally I don't know what you feel in your heart; And you're not a fish, so you don't know the joy of fish. That's absolutely certain. ”

After listening to Hui Shi's words, the wanderer said unhurriedly, "Keiko, please let us sort this issue out from the beginning. When you are asking me, 'How do you know the happiness of fish?', you already know that I know the happiness of fish and ask me, so I will answer this question now, I know the happiness of fish on this water! ”

"Papapapa", as soon as the wanderer's words fell, there was applause from behind, and Dai Yan couldn't help but applaud the wonderful debate between the two.

Such a short but wonderful debate, even all the debates that Dai Yan experienced in the Jixia Academy, were inferior in depth and breadth to this debate!

Hui Shi and Youshi turned back at the same time, as soon as they saw Dai Yan, Hui Shi was about to come over to say hello, but Dai Yan took the lead: "Ziyan has seen Huizi and Zhuangzi!" ”

Before Hui Shi could speak, Zhuangzi next to him asked: "This son, this is the first time I have met you, why do you know that I am Zhuang Zhou?" ”

Dai Yan asked rhetorically: "The first time I met you, why can't I know that you are Zhuang Zhou?" ”

Zhuangzi just wanted to ask a rhetorical question, but found that he seemed to have used such a debating technique to dig a hole for Hui Shi just now, so the words he wanted to refute suddenly stopped, and he simply said: "I hope Gongzi will tell you in detail." ”

Seeing Zhuangzi asking such a question, Dai Yan did not dare to slack off, so he replied: "I know it through reasoning. ”

Zhuangzi asked curiously, "What is reasoning?" How was Childe able to know that it was Zhuang Zhou through reasoning? ”

So Dai Yan replied: "Reasoning is the process of deriving new conclusions from known premises. Your Excellency is poorly dressed, but you can travel and debate with Keiko, and you can not fall behind in the debate, I think you are not an ordinary person, and you will be a famous person in my Song Kingdom! And as far as I know, among Keiko's friends, the only one who can do this is Zhuangzi, who thinks he is learning from Lao Tzu! ”

Zhuangzi thought for a moment, and then said: "Childe's reasoning is indeed interesting, but Childe's reasoning method can't completely determine my identity, right?" When I look at Childe's judgment of my identity, I am very sure, can Childe solve the confusion below? ”

This Zhuangzi really deserves to be an otherworldly and wise man! Dai Yan thought silently in his heart. In fact, Dai Yan was able to judge the identity of Zhuangzi, and it was entirely his identity as a traverser at work! Hao Liang's debate is famous in later generations, and it is one of the representative debates of Zhuangzi, how can he, as a first-hand witness, not judge his identity?

However, he could not say such a reason, so he pretended to be honest and admitted: "Zhuangzi is right, the method of reasoning has direct reasoning and indirect reasoning. If it is direct reasoning, the conclusion obtained must be accurate, but today it is indirect reasoning, and the kid is also sure of the identity of Zhuangzi. With 80% certainty, you can pretend to be 10% sure to gamble! And Zhuangzi later admitted his identity, and I naturally knew it. ”

"Oh, really?" Zhuangzi looked at Dai Yan with a smile and asked.

was a little numb by his gaze, and Dai Yan even had a feeling that his identity was exposed, but Zhuangzi let him go easily and didn't dwell on this issue anymore.

Hui Shi on the side saw that the confrontation between the two was finally over, so he grabbed Dai Yan and asked: "Childe, as the founder of the scientific school of logic, can you come to evaluate the theory today, just now I and Zhuangzi debate, who wins and who loses?" ”

Dai Yan looked at Hui Shi, then at Zhuangzi, and found that Zhuangzi didn't care about victory or defeat, so he said to Hui Shi: "From the perspective of the boy, the debate between Fang Cai Huizi and Zhuangzi is just different understandings and positions, and there is no victory or defeat!" ”

Hearing this, Zhuangzi was a little interested, and asked, "Dare to ask Gongzi what he means by this?" ”

Dai Yan replied: "Keiko's point of view: 'I am not you, so naturally I don't know how you feel in your heart; You're not a fish, and you don't know the joy of fish. This is judged from an epistemological point of view, and how complex is the human heart, and it is impossible for one person to know exactly how another person feels, let alone how he feels about fish.

And Zhuangzi's point of view, "I know the happiness of fish on the water", is a kind of appreciation of the fish swimming in the water, Zhuangzi can see the beauty of the fish swimming in the water, which is an appreciation of beauty! ”

Among the disciples of Zhuangzi in later generations, Hao Liang's argument was naturally Zhuangzi's victory, and he was extremely proud of Zhuangzi's victory in this "sophistry". However, Dai Yan never thought so, and this debate was just a confrontation between two theories and understandings, and it did not matter whether he won or lost at all.

Hearing Dai Yan's explanation, Hui Shi breathed a sigh of relief, but Zhuangzi replied to Dai Yan: "The son can realize this, which can be said to be a good thing!" ”

Hearing that Zhuangzi, the famous "poisonous tongue", would praise him, Dai Yan couldn't help but feel flattered.

Then he said to Zhuangzi: "Zhuangzi has just appreciated the fish swimming in the water, and he also feels it below. Who among us mortals doesn't want to swim like a fish? The greatest pursuit of human beings is 'freedom'! ”

When he said the "freedom" in the back, he deliberately wrote it on the small bridge in the water.

When Zhuangzi heard Dai Yan's words and saw the "freedom" that Dai Yan wrote, he couldn't help but be greatly moved. He said: "Childe's 'freedom' statement is indeed the essence of my Taoism! I've got it! Then, Zhuangzi strode away from the water.

Seeing Zhuangzi's expression, Hui Shi was not surprised at all. When only two people were left in place, Dai Yan asked Hui Shi: "Wei State treats Huizi so much, it's not worth it for Huizi!" Dare to ask Keiko if he still has the heart to continue to be in politics? If Keiko is willing, before making a wish to recommend Keiko to her brother! ”

Hui Shi's heart moved when he heard Dai Yan's words, but then he remembered the scene when he left the Wei State in despair, and said with a look of excitement: "The political career is dangerous, and I don't have this mind anymore. In this life, I can live with my old friend Zhuangzi, travel and argue together, but the rest of my life is my greatest wish! ”

The kind of down-and-out in Hui Shi's words, and the feeling of the danger of the political career, Dai Yan can also understand one or two. Think about Hui Shi's efforts to maintain the hegemony of the decline of the Wei State, but after all, it was like fishing for the moon in the water, and the Wei State inevitably declined completely during his reign!

In the later years of King Wei, he encountered an inexplicable "Zen concession", which made him deeply afraid of the current King of Wei. If it weren't for his old friend Zhuangzi who wrote to persuade him to withdraw quickly, he might have died in the Wei State!