Chapter 21: Heated Debate

"Are you crazy? Actually want to restore Wang Mang's government? I'm going to see Your Majesty! ”

Zhu Jun was angry, so he went out to suppress a bandit, and as soon as he came back, he found that these juniors actually wanted to turn the sky upside down!

"General Zhu, please calm your anger." Chu Yi and Xun Yu glanced at each other and said with a wry smile, "This is completely different from Wang Mang's government." ”

"Ahem...... Gongwei, let's listen to what Xun Lingjun and Chu Shizhong said first. Huangfu Song's face was also ugly, but he held back, at least he didn't get angry.

Zhu Jun said coldly: "Hmph, what is there to say, isn't this the Wang Tian system?" Have you forgotten how Wang Mang died? ”

The Wang Tian system is actually similar to the Jing Tian system, just a different name. The land under heaven was returned to the central government, and private buying and selling were prohibited. At the same time, it is allocated according to certain rules.

At first glance, this is quite similar to the land reform of New China in later generations, which is also one of the reasons why many people say that Wang Mang is a "traverser", but a careful analysis will find that this has nothing to do with traversal, Wang Mang is just a retro person. As soon as he slapped his ass, it was decided to restore the ancient Ida system and change its name to the Wangtian system.

There was also a lot of opposition to this system in the imperial court, and a man named Ou Bo said this at the time:

"Although Ida is a holy king, it has been abandoned for a long time. The Zhou Tao is declining, and the people are not complying. Qin knew that he could get great benefits from the hearts of the people, so he destroyed the well and put it away, and then the king of Zhuxia, so far the sea has not tired of its disadvantages. Now I want to go against the will of the people, and recover the extinct for thousands of years, although Yao Shun has revived, and there is no gradual passage of a hundred years, and it is ...... to do it."

But Wang Mang didn't know if he was blinded by lard, and he didn't listen to him, and as a result, Wang Tian's system failed in three years.

"This is not the Wangtian system, this can be said to be the Juntian system...... Ying Tingwei, come on. ”

"Huh?" Ying Shao was shocked, he really didn't expect Chu Yi to throw the pot at him in a blink of an eye, seeing that Zhu Jun was glaring at him angrily, but he had to bite the bullet and say, "Although this Juntian system also collects the land of the world into the central government, it is not beaten to death with a stick. I also discussed with Xun Lingjun and Chu Shizhong that the reason for the failure of Wang Mang's Wang Tian system was that it was too tough and the powerful opposition of the world at that time, and we are ...... now."

"I'll just say, why did you suddenly let me go to encircle and suppress those lawless heroes!" Zhu Jun immediately reacted and sneered, "It turns out that you are here for me to help you clear the obstacles so that you can implement your Juntian system!" ”

"General Zhu...... We now only have one state, Qingzhou, so we can start again even if we fail to implement the Juntian system...... What's more, it's also for the future of Dahan! ”

"Do you think you can make it?" Huangfu Song said coldly, "You'd better dispel this thought, otherwise I will impeach you to Your Majesty." ”

Huangfu Song was the middle of the imperial history before, and he has not stepped down.

"Huangfu Gong, please listen to me, why do you think there was a Yellow Turban Rebellion when the first emperor was the emperor?"

Huangfu Song said lightly: "Isn't it because of the bewitchment of the anti-thief Zhang Jiao." ”

"Then why can Zhang Jiao easily demagogue?"

"For the world is foolish."

"No matter how ignorant they were, they should have known that rebellion was going to cost their heads, but they did it anyway."

Huangfu Song asked rhetorically: "Then what do you think is the reason for this?" ”

"Since the founding of the Han Dynasty for nearly 400 years, there have been no less than 100 rebellions, large and small, why is this? Because of the land contradiction, this is a difficult problem to solve. The increasingly intensified land annexation of the family and Haoqiang has made their family have tens of millions of acres of fertile land. And what about civilians? but he was destitute and destitute, and had no place to stand. Chu Yi bit his lip and continued, "Mencius said that dogs eat people without knowing how to check them, and they are hungry on the way without knowing what to do. When a person dies, he says, 'It's not me, it's not me.' 'How is it different from stabbing someone and killing him, saying: If it is not me, the soldier is also. Isn't that what is the case in today's world? So I want to change this situation! ”

"Ahem...... How do you change? Wang Mang was rich in the world at the beginning, but he didn't fail! What's more, if the strength of today's family and the powerful is even stronger than at the beginning, you are doing this to push Your Majesty to the opposite side of the world! Huangfu Song said earnestly, "I know your intentions are good, but now is not a good opportunity for change!" ”

"No, now is the time for change! Since there is no one who can truly support the Son of Heaven now, then I will break everything and reshape! If the land problem is solved, there will be no more yellow turbans in the world! ”

Zhu Jun said coldly: "Break everything? How daring! What's more, I think your so-called Juntian system is also a lot of problems! The land belonged to the Son of Heaven and was forbidden to be bought and sold freely. According to the head of the land, the young and strong labor force has 40 acres per person. But what if the land is not enough? ”

"I have calculated below that the land of Dahan is definitely enough, not to mention, the south has not yet been developed. The land in the Yangtze River region is extremely fertile, and even more so. Once a large area of cultivated land in the south is cultivated, it will definitely be the granary of the world! ”

"South? Do you mean Yangzhou and Jingzhou? There are a lot of barbarians there, and the further south you go, the more miasma there is, so how easy is it to reclaim? ”

"When I was in Chang'an, I turned over some information, and in the five years of Yonghe of the Han Dynasty, the population of the south increased significantly compared with the former Han Dynasty. It can be seen that the south is already being reclaimed unconsciously, and this is a trend. In the future, the Son of Heaven will be in the world, and he only needs to deliberately guide the trend. As for the Nanban that General Zhu said...... Just kill it, we can recruit Han'er in the local area, and kill all the rebellious barbarians, the two generals are not women's benevolence, killing the rebels is the best way, as long as they are a little gentle afterwards, they will be grateful. ”

Referring to the examples of Japan and the United States in later generations, Chu Yi felt that it was not polite to surrender the Southern Barbarian Baiyue. Either you become a real citizen of the big man, or you can die.

“…… Even if what you say is right, then do you know how much resistance there will be in the world once the Juntian system comes out? Maybe even Tao Qian, Yuan Shu, and Sun Jian may oppose us! ”

Xun Yu explained: "Although this uniform land system does not allow land to be bought and sold, it can allow others to contract on their behalf, but they have to go to the counties and towns to go through the cumbersome procedures and limit the time for others to contract. Therefore, there is no restriction on death in this regard, and all the families and powerful who owned a lot of land before were allowed to have five times the per capita land of ordinary people, that is to say, 200 acres per person. Moreover, they were allowed to choose one of their families to be an official in another county with more than 100 stones. ”

Chu Yi said: "So I feel that although there will be a family and a strong resistance, it will not be the enemy of the world." I'd rather endure the pain for a while than exchange for the peace of the Han Dynasty! ”[.]