Chapter 105: General Situation (II)
After going back, Chen Jian and the others met and decided to summarize everyone's speeches tonight. Pen Fun Pavilion www.biquge.info This is an internal decision, and Chen Jian naturally has to implement it, so he lit candles and exchanged some things with each other, or recalled some things that were too fast to be recorded.
Hu Lin fiddled with the candle and said to Chen Jian and six or seven other people who were tidying up: "Everyone said, what are we arguing about now? β
Qiao Tiexin, who had a falling out with his younger brother and family, performed well in the implementation of safety lights in the Mincheng Coal Mine, and was elected as a member of the party's external liaison committee, turned over the paper he was sorting out in his hand and said: "As far as I am concerned, there are a lot of things to discuss tonight, and I will only say what I can understand. That is, the generation of wealth was discussed in the evening, and in the end, the total wealth of society is increasing? Or is there only so much total wealth that is fixed. Wealth comes from the land? Or is it from labor? β
"After all, this is a discussion that has caused huge disagreements within us, and tonight's discussion is just a scratch of the surface, and we can discuss it slowly in the future. I firmly believe that our internal thinking is correct and that we will get more support from more people. β
"And these things are the basis of many of our concepts, including the issue of real estate restrictions and artisan votes. I don't think these things are the foundation, and some of the requirements are rootless. β
"If wealth comes from land and not from labor, then many of our demands and changes will become unreasonable."
"It's like knowing the cause of a coal mine gas explosion and finding a way to prevent it. I think there must be a law of wealth and economy, and as long as you find it, you can always find a way that is beneficial to everyone by reasoning according to this law. β
Everyone nodded in agreement. Several people talked about it from different angles, and Chen Jian finally asked Hu Lin, "Brother Zhu, what do you think?" β
"I think everybody's got a point. You know, I studied the law and was a lawyer. From my point of view, we're talking about two things. β
"One is to find a basis for the big regulations that we set a long time ago. Just as we were born to know the existence of big laws, and many of them were set at the beginning of the founding of the country and were not allowed to be changed. It's become a habit. But now, we need to explore why this is the case, and give an explanation from the perspective of freedom and equality or love to justify it. β
"Second, I think we are discussing which laws and regulations are out of date, which ones are lacking and not clearly defined, which ones contradict the connotation of the major regulations, and which ones need to be amended, added, deleted, repealed, and clearly ......."
"I think Jian Chen is right, this kind of thing is definitely not something that can be debated in a few years, maybe ten or twenty years. This is the direction we should strive for, and at the same time, we should practice based on the ideas we agree with. β
"We don't have to put it forward, as long as the most basic things are agreed by more people, then they will naturally be revised and modified. I think that's the case, if you don't fix it, it's against what everyone agrees on, and then naturally some people will rise up against it. β
When Hu Lin said this, he suddenly asked, "Jian Chen, what do you think of these people sitting separately today?" We agree to temporarily let them stay close to us, and gradually attract or attract some people to join. But some people are completely contrary to our ideas, why do we need to help them build an organization, let them have a circle to improve their ideas? Like the group sitting on the right, completely opposed to any change. β
Jian Chen smiled: "Everything, you have a golden crown on your head and shit on the back of your buttocks." We are A, and they are B. If you want more people to accept A, there is a more useful way to refute B in addition to refuting it positively. β
That is to support and even cultivate a group of irrational people who defend and advocate everything for B. Even if it's shit behind the butt, they'll argue that the smell is fragrant. There are many arguments, although some people believe that it is really fragrant, but there are also more people who will be disgusted and even oppose the gold crown on B's body. Because he who sings praises in desperation will himself smear on the golden crown. β
"They only have two options, either admit that it's, or try to prove that is fragrant. The problem is that now we and the people on the left believe that change is needed, so those who don't support any change have to prove that is fragrant. And the on our bodies...... There's no way to manifest it yet, unless it's really according to us or those on the left. But again, after the change, there will naturally be new ideas staring at the on us, but it won't be their group of people sitting on the right, because they can't solve it. β
Everyone thought for a while, and they all laughed, and one said: "People on the stage will always be stared at by the audience under the stage, which is incomprehensible." β
Another person also said: "If this is the case, in fact, we only need one supervisory power, and we will never come to power." Let's just fight for a supervisory power. That way we don't get a on us. β
"That's just talking about problems, not taking responsibility. I usually stand up and criticize, and when something happens, I say that I don't know what to do, but I feel that it's not good to do this, so what's the use? β
"But there is still a need for scrutiny. Therefore, the responsibility of the supervisory power and the Imperial Historical Observatory needs to be shouldered by someone. β
"These are two concepts. This is for some legal matters, not specific policies. For example, if an official seeks personal gain, this can be monitored. But what if something goes wrong with the policy? Just talk about the problem, but don't dare to take it, it is true that you will not make mistakes, and there will be no on your body, but what is the use? β
"I think there should be some separation of powers and responsibilities."
"But that would hinder each other, wouldn't we be able to accomplish anything?"
"From this point of view, there is nothing wrong with saint politics?"
"If there is a saint, that's right. But in reality there are no saints, so that's the biggest mistake. What is assumed to be true is not necessarily true. β
"No, you're not right. One cannot be a saint for all. If a minimum wage is set for the hired worker, then it is not a saint to the employee; There is no minimum wage, which is a saint to the employer, but not to the employee. β
"A saint is not a good man, not for everyone to say that he is a good man, but for the benefit of the many. This can be rationally calculated, as long as a ratio is calculated, it may be possible. β
"To benefit the many is to undermine the freedom of the few."
"There is always a way to minimize the problem of mutual constraints and serve the interests of more people."
β¦β¦ In the flickering of the red candle, these young people continue the previous quarrel, and the confusion of their thoughts may continue for a long time, which may be the price of growth.
Jian Chen sat there, respecting everyone's opinions, listening carefully, but not saying a word.
After a while, someone asked, "Jian Chen, those people and us are sitting on the left, center, and right today." Now it's just a verbal quarrel, but what about the future? β
Jian Chen shook his head and said, "In the future?" Those who debate only rely on lip service, and at most they raise their fists. But what is hidden behind it involves the interests of many people. If there are a lot of people, it may not be fun to swing your fists, so you can debate with guns. β
Everyone sighed, but they didn't refute, after experiencing the fight in the glass workshop, they can be regarded as a lot more mature, and reasoning is always better than fists.
Seeing everyone sighing, Jian Chen smiled and said, "What is there to sigh about? Just like today, when you are arranging seats, isn't the problem very clear? Sitting on the left are mostly merchants, workshopists, or skilled but difficult craftsmen who have been suppressed by guild rules, officials, and guilds. Those who sit in the middle are mostly fed. β
"Nowadays, there are many unreasonable places, such as the excessive weight of real estate votes, and the leaders of the guilds can be directly recommended to the council. Another example is that the constituency is unreasonable, there are 200,000 people in Fujian, and only a few can participate in the national council. However, in some places, the number of people is not more than a thousand, but there are the same council members as in Mincheng, resulting in many policies that are very unfavorable to the workshop owners and craftsmen. β
"If we sit in the middle, we can actually count as allies with those sitting on the left. Because those who are supported by food and good hearts cannot accomplish anything. Those sitting on the left need our help to get the rules of law and council rights they want, because they have money but few people. β
"In the same way, we who sit in the middle also rely on those who sit on the left. Only by helping the people on the left get the rights and expand the votes can we give full play to the numerical advantage, after all, the people who support the people sitting in the middle are mostly poor hired laborers or small craftsmen, except for those who are well fed and supported. β
"After the people on the left have achieved their goal, it's time for us to part ways with them. The one on the left has achieved its purpose, proving that there are more workshops and that their ideas of freedom and so on have matured. The more workshops there are, the more workers there are, so that they have more powerful power, and only by relying on the advantage of numbers can they be qualified to speak out. Otherwise, how many employees are there in Mincheng now? It is completely invincible to the temptation to stipulate a maximum amount of land ownership and divide land equally, which is exactly contrary to the concept of our big workshops and large farms, and then tax and redistribute legislative subsidies. β
"So I suggest that we stay friends with them for the time being, and resist those backward thoughts. As for the future, let's talk about it later. Not to surrender completely, not to listen to them completely, but to stand with them in dealing with the common enemy, but again we have our own organization. β
"We are not against big workshops, we are not against a free economy, and we are fully in favor of political change and council change, but we must fight for our interests on this basis. It is difficult to grasp this degree, and after that, it is easy to be aggressive, too soft, and easy to lose our own principles. So it's going to take us a few more years to refine our own principles. β
"Until then, refining the theory, expanding the publicity, changing the law, and fighting for the right to vote and speak are the first priorities. Only with the support of these conditions can we make a proposal and pass it through legal means. There will be more and more of our people. β
"Well, tomorrow we will call the members in the capital together, and everyone will discuss and vote. If you agree, even if it is the tone set after this trip to the capital, return to Mincheng and propose that everyone discuss it again. β
Everyone discussed in a whisper for a while, and they all agreed with this statement and agreed with Jian Chen's opinion.
It was not early, and everyone yawned after talking for a while, and they were about to go to sleep.
Before everyone left, Jian Chen suddenly said, "Everyone, there is one more thing. The party's financial system has taken shape and is gradually improving. I would like to resign as a member of the Finance Commission. Let's talk to everyone first. β
"It's not that I'm shirking my responsibilities and tasks, but there's something more important. Since we want to improve the living environment of the employees, I am the workshop owner with the largest number of employees in Fujian, so I naturally have to start from me. We also need to try to sort out the various regulations, demands, and improvements from here in order to enrich our foundation in the future. In principle, I should avoid suspicion, but there is no suitable person. So I recommended myself to be in charge of this job. β
"This is a place where problems can easily arise, especially since our thinking is still very naΓ―ve and confused, and it is difficult to define cooperation and compromise, struggle and confrontation."
"This is the first time I've tried it, and I know the bottom line of the workshop owner. I hope that in this matter, everyone will pay attention to my opinions, base themselves on reality, move forward slowly, and do not go too fast. In particular, I do not recommend that some extremely radical comrades do this, and I hope to get everyone's support and approval on this point. β
This is just a proposal, not an opinion on a formal occasion, especially since most of the people here agree with Jian Chen. After everyone dispersed, Chen Jian grabbed Hu Lin and finally had the opportunity to say something private.
"Brother Zhu, who is that girl at today's banquet?"
"Lanki. After the second battle of Quangu, the ancestors followed Ji Xia to conquer, and was named Viscount and surnamed Lan. Later......"
Chen Jian recalled the things that sounded a long time ago but he had experienced them, and suddenly said, "It turned out to be his family." β
Hu Lin thought that Chen Jian was feeling the things that happened later that many people knew, but he didn't know that Chen Jian recalled the forgotten things that happened before, so he shook his head with a smile.