"The old gentleman has benefited the younger generations, and his heart is praiseworthy." Zhao Jie clapped his hands, gave the old man a thumbs up, and then continued: "It sounds like the old gentleman admires the Mohist doctrine quite a lot!" ”

"Childe's discernment, what the old man believes is the Mohist doctrine." The old man smiled heartily and said, "Which doctrine does the son believe?"

"My father once taught me that knowledge and learning are to be applied in the world, and there is no need to be confined to the dispute of schools, once it is useful, it needs to be mastered." Zhao Jie replied respectfully.

"Has that boy studied the Mohist doctrine?" The old man asked with a little concern. Zhao Jie nodded when he heard this, and gave an affirmative answer.

"Then what does Childe think of the Mo family doctrine?" Hearing this, the old man continued to ask: "I have always believed that the Mohist doctrine is the most complete statement in the world!" ”

Zhao Jie shook his head when he heard this, and then explained: "I have a little disagreement with the old gentleman's opinion. It is true that the Mohists are the most prominent scholars in the world, and there are many people who believe in them, but the loopholes in their speech and style of acting have pushed themselves to the edge of the cliff, which can be described as full of crises. ”

"I don't understand a little bit of the old decay, please explain it on my behalf!" The old man asked for advice, and his tone of voice was obviously a little unhappy.

Zhao Jie felt the old man's dissatisfaction, so he hurriedly explained: "The main views contributed by Mo Zhai, the founder of the Mo family, to this era can be roughly described in 12 words: "love", "non-attack", "Shangxian", "Shangtong", "non-life", "thrift", among which the core of the Mohist ideology has always been 'love'. ”

Zhao Jie paused, and then continued: "Contemporaneous love, in the Mohist interpretation, is indiscriminate fraternity, that is, asking people to treat others as if they were themselves. In the child's view, in order for love to be realized, the first thing to achieve is the equality of all people, and this equality needs to be manifested not only in law, but also in status, wealth, personality and dignity, otherwise people's selfishness will inevitably protect themselves, protect their wealth and status, and exclude and discriminate against others. ”

The old man nodded when he heard this: "What Gongzi said is very reasonable, equality is indeed the basis for realizing love, and the ideas of the Mo family are extremely popular among the common people, but it is difficult to break into the ranks of the aristocracy and the rich, probably because of the inequality of wealth and status!" ”

As soon as the old man finished speaking, Zhao Jie continued to explain: "The realization of equality makes it possible to love each other, if everyone loves each other, then the period of universal harmony is just around the corner. But the question has arisen, how can equality be achieved? Do you make the rich lose their wealth, or do you make the nobility abandon their status? It is true that some people may be willing to give up their ego for the sake of morality, but how many such people can there be in today's society. Besides, if the rich scatter their wealth, is it necessarily in line with the fair way of heaven for the nobles to depreciate themselves? I think the answer is no. It is not fair in itself to give the wealth of the rich to the lazy poor; It is also an injustice for the aristocracy to depreciate themselves and to associate themselves with the self-degenerate. ”

The old man shook his head in disagreement when he heard this, and then said, "Is it impossible for everyone to be equal? Could it be that love is the mirror? I don't think so! Mozi once said......"

Zhao Jie interrupted the old man's words and explained again: "The kid did not say that it is impossible for everyone to be equal, judging from the natural development trend, the realization of love is possible. If one day, when the role of the individual in the operation and development of the whole world is negligible, everyone will naturally achieve equality. At that time, everyone was like the ant colony who divided labor and cooperated, each did his own duty, and there was no reason for people not to love each other, otherwise it would be unfair. ”

Hearing this, the old man nodded again, and then said, "For so many years, it is the first time that the old man has heard of such a statement. Childe's reasoning is very reasonable, but the world in Childe's mouth does not sound like it can be achieved in a hundred years. ”

Zhao Jie smiled when he heard this, and then said to each other: "Of course, maybe it can't be realized even after a thousand years, but this is the trend of the development of the world, an irreversible trend, isn't it?" ”

The old man nodded when he heard this, and he also smiled: "At that time, there will be no more conflicts of interest in the world, social harmony, everyone loves each other, and war will no longer exist!" ”

Looking at the old man's smiling face, Zhao Jie continued: "In the thinking of the Mo family, after ranking and love, it is non-attacking. The Mohists oppose all wars of aggression and believe that all wars are unjust, and I strongly agree with this point. In today's war-torn world, it is true that some people need to preach peace and warn the rulers, but I do not approve of the Mo disciples' behavior of sacrificing themselves to assist a certain country or someone in defending the city. ”

When the old man heard this, he said with a puzzled face: "What the prince said is that the Mo family giant Meng Sheng and the Mo family disciples helped the king of Chu Guoyang City to defend the city?" After the old man heard about this, the whole world praised it, faith and righteousness came first, and the Mo family was famous, and there was nothing wrong with it! ”

Zhao Jie continued to explain: "In the past, when the state of Chu invaded the Song Dynasty, Mozi asked the king of Chu with a strategy of war defense, and finally made the king of Chu give up the war. From Mozi's actions, it can be found that the Mohists' method of practicing the non-offensive principle is to use all means to prevent the occurrence of the war of aggression before the war, and its deep purpose is to protect the local people from the harm of war, but Meng Sheng's behavior has led the Mohists to the other extreme - to stop the invasion with defense, that is, to resist after the war, and its deep purpose has changed from protecting the people to protecting the land and the city, which is obviously an act of putting the cart before the horse. The war happened, the people were killed and wounded, it was true that the invaders retreated, and the Mo family was feared by the world, but so what? Peace has still not been achieved, and the thinking of the Mohists has been deflected, which only increases casualties. ”

Zhao Jie paused and continued: "Moreover, Meng Sheng, as a giant of the Mo family, has a serious situation of inseparability between public and private in his actions. As a subordinate of Yangcheng Jun, it is his own business to stick to his faith and righteousness to defend the city for Yangcheng Jun, but why should he let his Mo family disciples help defend the city? This is a typical public and private use, and the subsequent disciples of the Mohist family took Meng Sheng as an example, or guarded the land for the princes, or guarded the wealth for the rich, and there were few who guarded the lives of the people. ”

The old man was expressionless when he heard this, and continued to ask: "What Gongzi said is very precise, maybe the Mo family has embarked on a detour today as Gongzi said, so according to Gongzi's opinion, how should the Mo family remedy it, and how should the children of the Mo family practice the principle of non-attack?" ”