All this is just a kind of hope for the future layout of these interest groups, and it is not enough to plan for a lifetime, and the contradictions between the various forces are intertwined, including the craftsmen, commercial landlords and maritime groups of the Ming Empire, who have not yet realized that they have already had many conflicts with them.

Jian Chen doesn't have much opinion on the fact that these people will reach out to India, and if these people don't reach out, others will reach out, and from some points of view, he hopes that these people will reach out to India.

India's interests are very large, internal divisions, and religious contradictions can all be exploited by the colonizers, so as to leverage their strength, otherwise the strength of the colonizers alone will not be enough to collect excess land rent.

For the European colonizers, it was impossible to set foot in China without conquering India, and it was impossible to set foot in China without completing the conversion from land rent profits to industrial product dumping profits, that is, completing the industrial revolution.

For the colonists here, because they do not need the advantage of going around the ends of the earth, they can directly get involved in the affairs of India. In the same way, because China's social form is completely different from India's, it can only be profitable in China after the completion of the industrial revolution.

Therefore, Chen Jian hopes that these people will go deep into India and invest heavily in the projection of power in India, as long as they can complete the industrial revolution before India can achieve full effective rule and complete a series of ideological and social revolutions in the Ming Empire, everything will not be a problem.

It's like some kind of hoax that has already invested too much in India and it is impossible to get out and go to China until it is fully effectively ruled.

This time difference may only take seventy or eighty to one hundred years because of Chen Jian's involvement, so the Chinese cultural circle on this world line must seize this hundred years to complete the most critical leap to leverage the world order.

As far as Chen Jian's personal understanding goes, the more balanced the development of the world, the sooner there will be a worldwide overcapacity and relative surplus, and the sooner it will be difficult for the so-called developed countries to use the excess profits obtained by technological superiority to improve welfare and win over their own working class, and the easier it will be for worldwide changes to occur.

What he wants to do is to spread the technology as much as possible, so that at least half of the countries and regions in the world can complete the industrial revolution, not just a few countries, so as to maintain the industrial dumping system, so that the contradictions will become more acute, and there will be no way out for improvement and no profit.

Objectively, colonialism and imperialism can accelerate the integration of the world, and if revolution takes place within the pre-imperialist itself, the system constructed by it will also collapse. There is no easier way to dismantle it, not to be deceived by temporary internal reforms, except for a real world war that will spread to the continents of the world, rather than to the center of Europe, and divert internal contradictions, and this will not be bypassed.

It's just that at this time, Jian Chen wants to talk to these people well, because these people's actions may affect what he wants to do.

After pretending to seriously consider the interests of these people, Jian Chen praised: "Your idea is right, but I still think you are in a bit of a hurry. ”

"As long as Mr. Chen doesn't object, then we can still talk."

Jian Chen smiled: "What do I have to object? I don't support the European aristocracy either, and what you have to do is not contradictory to what we are going to do. By haste I mean that your ambitions are not unrealizable, but that the cost of investment is a bit too high. ”

"I'll have to ask for advice."

This can be regarded as sincere, but the other party can't believe it all, not only to listen to Chen Jian's advice, but also to strip away the things that are not good for them in Chen Jian's suggestions.

Jian Chen pondered for a moment and said slowly: "The Dutch are hungry for spices, and spices are produced in the Spice Islands. Returning to Europe from the Spice Islands would have to pass through India and the ends of the earth where we have already emigrated more than 100 people, and we would have to bypass Africa. ”

Everyone nodded, not understanding why Jian Chen would say these things that sounded like just telling the truth.

"Ladies and gentlemen, it's like flying a kite, and there's a line between the kite and the person flying it. This line is India and the ends of the earth. ”

"If they show aggressiveness towards the Spice Islands too soon, the directors of the Dutch Indian company may break their wrists and withdraw their energies from the Spice Islands, thus focusing all their energies on their company's nominal main business, India."

"Evacuated from the Spice Islands to India, they are closer to the mainland, we are farther away, and it is not worth it for you to compete with each other."

Speaking of which, someone had already thought of something and asked, "What does Mr. Chen mean is that our appetites and ambitions are viable, but the order needs to be changed?" ”

"That's right. Don't do it both ways, but try to tempt them to go the other way. As you know, the Netherlands' strength in the Spice Islands is not strong at this time, and the company is not investing so much that it is difficult to give up. So, now it is still possible for them to withdraw and withdraw to India to concentrate on business. ”

Chen Jian measured the distance with his hand, and said: "But if they continue to toss in the Spice Islands, your Huaxia India Company will not reveal its great ambition for spices for the time being, but obtain the right to package taxes and legal trade rights in India as soon as possible, and occupy an advantage in time, then the Dutch Indian Company will increase its investment in the Spice Islands for the sake of profit." ”

"Once they are determined to put down roots in the Spice Islands, the upfront investment must be huge, including garrisoning, building forts, maintaining monopoly, naval superiority, and so on. At that time, the Indian company in the Netherlands may have a temporary cash shortage, and it will be reluctant to leave after investing too much. ”

"Once you have gained a foothold in India, it is like cutting the string of the kite. And we only need to cross the ocean from this side without going around a continent, and they are like fish on the chopping block under the attack of the east and west, how can they have the power to resist? ”

"When the time comes, even if they are forced to withdraw from the trade of the Spice Islands, but India has already taken the lead, and they have no advantage, so what can they do but retreat back to Europe? Nanyang Company engaged in the slave trade in Africa because there was a profitable market, but if the Dutch did not have a market, Nanyang Company continued to maintain a monopoly, and they could not even stay in Africa. ”

"So, my advice is that you don't meddle in the affairs of the Dutch Indian Company. Luzon and Manila, don't make an attitude of wanting to seize for the time being, don't put too much pressure on the Dutch. ”

"For us, we can continue to get silver from Manila, and at the same time temporarily join forces with the Dutch in Asia and form a seeming alliance to reduce the pressure on us. As for you, you will only need to fight to solve all your problems in the future, not after the Spice Islands have been resolved, and then continue to fight with them on the same running line in India. ”

"If you force them out of the Spice Islands now, they will have their eyes on India, but you don't even have the right to trade with India now, and India still has an empire after all, and they will be alert to your actions there."

After listening to Jian Chen's suggestion, everyone whispered to each other, frowning, obviously difficult to decide.