Chapter 2060: Parliamentarians
Wei Ting said: "King Qin, don't worry, you will be clear as soon as I explain." Needless to say, the most fundamental reason for the rebellion in the three states was that the officials forced the people to rebel. ”
"Then it's none of my business."
"But the question is, the officials have always been those officials, why don't they rebel sooner or later. But now it's the other way around? ”
"Then why do you say that?"
"The root cause is tax increases. I think that my Tang Navy was defeated in Goguryeo, and the ships were gone. Therefore, His Majesty ordered these three states to build ships. However, the people of these three states could not bear the hardships of shipbuilding. ”
"Then it's not going to rebel, is it?"
"Of course not. Less than half of the shipbuilding was built, and the people of Sanzhou couldn't stand it, so they wrote to the imperial court and asked for permission for them to pay for the people of Tanzhou to build the ship on their behalf. In other words, it is to contribute money but not to help. ”
Guo Yedao: "If the people of Sanzhou really can't bear the hardship, this method is not bad." Didn't the imperial court allow it? ”
"Who made it or not? Of course, the court allowed it. But because of this, it caused a catastrophe! ”
"What catastrophe?"
"The people of the three states have no money! The money for hiring people to build ships has not been enough. In order not to be punished by the imperial court, the local government inevitably rushed a little. Many people were forced to sell their children, women, fields, and land, and they had no means of livelihood and were forced to rebel. ”
Guo Ye scratched his head and said, "This doesn't make sense, they were the ones who had to pay the money in the first place." In the end, they were the ones who couldn't pay the money and were forced to rebel. They don't have the money to put any big cloves of garlic? ”
Wei Ting said: "This is the key point, the root cause lies with you!" If you hadn't promised Your Majesty the land of the four seas, mountains of gold and silver, how could Your Majesty have tripled the number of ships shipped? And why did the people rebel for the sake of the triple tax? ”
Guo Yexin said that this is my, you caught a sheep and killed it yourself.
The people of the three states are overwhelmed, so wouldn't it be okay to distribute these taxes to the land of Kyushu? We have more than 300 states in Datang, which is a big deal? How did the government force the people to rebel? It's a good hand of!
Hey? That's not right! Guo Ye suddenly realized that Wei Ting's explanation was very problematic: even if His Majesty Li Er was confused for a while, the guts of the magistrate would not be so small, right? Isn't it one of the duties of the magistrate to cry poverty?
So, he raised this question.
After listening to this, Wei Ting's face was a little embarrassed, and he said, "This ...... This one...... There are indeed some problems with the administration of officials in the three states. The reason why they do not oppose it is for their own interests. Without him, it's just convenient to get up and down. The more money they need, the more room they have to make money. ”
"But the people are really burdened, so they don't worry about rebellion?"
"That's Li Lingzhi fainted. Of course, it is true that the magistrates are not completely indifferent to the people's livelihood. When they saw that the people were indeed powerless, they put their ideas on the heads of the bureaucrats again. How much money should be paid by ordinary people, the bureaucrats only need to contribute half of the money. ”
Guo Ye said helplessly: "So not only the ordinary people are opposed, but even the bureaucrats are also opposed? Alas, these men are really lawless. Just being charged half a tax and rebelling, I don't know the majesty of the court. ”
His Majesty Li Er said: "That's not what you say. The bureaucrats have always refused to pay taxes and are not subject to forced labor, and a sudden tax will certainly cause a backlash. Besides, the bureaucrats don't have any money. They are much poorer than the average person, and even half of the taxes are too much to bear. ”
Fang Xuanling said: "Does King Qin think that the imperial court does not want to tax the bureaucrats? The Turks are so powerful that they have been wiped out by my Tang Dynasty, not to mention the bureaucrats? The most important thing is that the gains outweigh the losses. If you want to completely conquer the bureaucrats, it costs a lot, and you can't collect any money if you really collect taxes, and the gains outweigh the losses. ”
His Majesty Li Er sneered: "What I didn't expect was that the imperial court couldn't make up this decision, and the magistrate did it for me. The heron splits the meat on the legs, and the mosquitoes cut fat in the abdomen, which is really a shame that they can do it! ”
Guo Yedao: "Since it has been determined that the government forced the people to rebel, it will be easy to do." It is nothing more than severely punishing corrupt officials and appeasing the people. ”
Kong Yingda arched his hand and said, "King Qin Gao Jian, I also think so below. However, the princes of the court have different views. ”
"Who disagrees?"
Fang Xuanling smiled bitterly: "Mainly in the bottom." ”
"Why?"
"The rebellion in the three states, although in general it was the fault of the imperial court. But it is also a fact that Yang Sheng is ambitious and has always wanted to unify the tribe of wingmen. Even if there was no such thing, he would have raised an army against Tang, but he didn't make such a big noise. So. I'm afraid it won't work just to soothe. ”
Kong Yingda said: "So what, as long as Your Majesty issues the "Edict of Guilt and Guilt", and then declares that all the soldiers and civilians involved in the rebellion will be pardoned, most of the rebels will definitely disperse." The remaining small number of rebels will not be able to deal a blow to the imperial army. ”
Fang Xuanling sneered: "And then? ”
"And then, what then?"
"Three states are eroded, and several states are affected. Even if this rebellion is suppressed, nearly hundreds of thousands of people will have nothing to live on, so how can you raise the money and food for relief? ”
"Of course, it is the imperial court."
"The problem is that this is Shuzhong, and the road is difficult to travel. Why is Jiannan Province flooded with iron money, isn't it that copper can't be transported? Copper is not lucky, let alone the relief food and wages needed? ”
Kong Yingda said angrily: "Then you can't kill all the people affected by the rebellion, right?" Prime Minister Fang, are you trying to encourage Your Majesty to do something wrong? ”
"Kong Shangshu, what hat are you buttoning? I said I killed all the horses? The reason why I said that is to tell everyone that there is chaos in Shuzhong, and it is not easy to quell the rebellion. Of course, the money that should be spent still has to be spent. However, this money must be used well, and there will never be trouble! ”
Guo Yeyi frowned and said, "The officials forced the people to rebel, and this kind of thing can never be troubled?" If this goal is really achieved, I'm afraid that my Datang will really be able to live forever. But here's the problem...... Is it possible? ”
Of course, I don't mean to never stop the government forcing the people to rebel, but to eliminate the rebellion of the bureaucrats. The imperial court has always been tolerant of bureaucrats, because of the huge cost of changing the land and returning to the stream. This time it will cost a lot of money anyway, so it's better to do nothing and solve it together. ”
Li Daozong said: "I agree with what Fang Xiang said. If the bureaucrats are poor, the taxes can be reduced or reduced, but what happens if they don't pay anything? In this way, it seems that His Majesty is a thick man and a thin man, isn't this bullying an honest person? I am afraid that it is not a blessing for the country. ”
Kong Yingda snorted coldly, ignored Li Daozong, and said to Fang Xuanling: "The ancients are cloudy, and people from afar are not convinced, so they will cultivate Wende." King Jiangxia is just a military general, and you don't understand this truth? ”
Fang Xuanling said without giving an inch: "Kong Shangshu is too pedantic. This statement, that is, the time of the Three Emperors and the Five Emperors, can still make do with it. Even when it came to Shang Zhou, it was completely useless. Which of Shang Tang and Zhou Wu did not win the world by conquest? ”
"That's because it is necessary to use heavy codes to govern troubled times, but now it is a peaceful and prosperous era. Aren't the wingmen His Majesty's people? What do you say that you will never have trouble, hmph, how many people are you going to kill? ”
"Your Majesty recognizes the bureaucrats as his people, but the bureaucrats may not admit it!"
"Zifei bureaucrats, how do you know what the bureaucrats think?"
Fang Xuanling said: "In the second year of martial arts, the people of Jizhou rebelled. In the third year of Wude, the Kaizhou bureaucrats raised troops to trap the two states of Tong and Xin. In the seventh year of Zhenguan, the east and west jade caves were opposed; In the twelfth year of Zhenguan, Wu, Jun, Ming, Ba, Yang, Ji, and Bi rebelled again! In the fourteenth year of Zhenguan, Luo and Dou Zhuzhou rebelled. ”
He paused for a moment and said mockingly, "How many wingmen are there in total?" It's only been a few years since the founding of the Tang Dynasty, how many times have they rebelled? This time it can be said that the imperial court has some responsibilities, but what about the first few times? ”
Then, he knelt on the ground and said: "Now I am a virtuous and virtuous minister of the Tang Dynasty, the treasury is abundant, and the soldiers are brave. But even so, the wingmen often rebelled. Once my Tang Dynasty declines, I'm afraid they will be even more difficult to control. For the sake of future generations, please give an order to completely pacify the bureaucrats and return to the land. ”
Kong Yingda also knelt on the ground and said, "Although the wingmen often rebel, they are all scabies. If Your Majesty listens to the idea of the servant, I am afraid that he will force everyone to rebel, and the consequences are unpredictable. In addition, there is also the name of benevolence that hurts His Majesty. I hope Your Majesty will think twice! ”
His Majesty Li Er ignored the two of them and said to Guo Ye: "Look, for this matter, the two Aiqing have been arguing for a long time, and it is difficult to distinguish between them. That's why I ordered someone to invite you. What do you think about this? ”