"Leiden," Spex's face was half white and half red, and then turned to Zheng Zhilong, "Although Leiden made unauthorized remarks against Commander Zheng, his words are good, we can't accept that Borneo completely belongs to the Ming Dynasty. ”

"Your Excellency the Governor, I have already compromised once, and I will definitely not compromise again this time," Zheng Zhilong's gaze moved away from the water glass in his hand, "You can't come up with any satisfactory result, now that the agreement is close to being reached, does Your Excellency the Governor have to force the South China Sea Fleet to fight with the East India Company for the sake of this Borneo?" ”

"Commander Zheng, it's you who are persecuting us," Spex really can't give up Borneo, not only because of the reason Leiden said, Borneo is also a transit point for the East India Company's trade with Japan and North Korea #Xian, and now it has generated huge profits, once he tastes the sweetness, how can he give up this piece of fat in his hands?

But Spex was even more reluctant to give up the agreement reached with Zheng Zhilong, which was already the best outcome that the East India Company could get, at least much better than the ending of the Portuguese and Spaniards, "Commander Zheng, negotiation is a process of continuous compromise between the two sides. ”

Zheng Zhilong shook his head, "Your Excellency the Governor, I am not a civilian negotiator, I am just a soldier, if the negotiation is to keep compromising, then I will definitely not agree that Java Island belongs to the Netherlands at the beginning, on the contrary, I will let the Dutch East India Company completely withdraw from the South Seas, and even demand that the Netherlands belong to the Ming Dynasty, as a starting point for peace talks between the two sides, and then continue to compromise with His Excellency the Governor." ”

"Commander Zheng, you have gone too far, I have never asked for Beijing to be transferred to the East India Company." Spex was out of anger, and he no longer cared about the verbal harm to Zheng Zhilong.

Zheng Zhilong# was not hurt at all, "Your Excellency the Governor can also make such a request, as long as you have the strength, or you think, we have the possibility to accept it." ”

"......" strength? The East India Company really doesn't have such strength, otherwise Spex wouldn't be sitting here and talking to Zheng Zhilong, "Commander Zheng, let's deal with Borneo in a different way." ”

"How do you change the law? I'm listening. Zheng Zhilong made up his mind, no matter what he built, he would deny it all, if he couldn't reach an agreement, then it would be better to see him on the battlefield.

"We recognize the interests of the Han Chinese in Borneo, Borneo +☆ dǐng + ☆ diǎn + ☆ small + ☆ say, .2 $3.o☆ s_ (); It is jointly managed by both parties and the land is divided equally. "Sparks wants to go with the Sulawesi or the Southeast Islands, and if it doesn't work, then the Spice Islands model might as well.

"Condominium? Borneo belongs to the Ming Dynasty, which is the embodiment of the strength of the Ming Dynasty, if His Excellency the Governor wants to achieve condominium, then give us the Southeast Islands, and I will set aside an equivalent piece of land in the south of Borneo to be managed by the East India Company. ”

Zheng Zhilong already knows that the central part of Borneo is mountainous, the terrain is high, covered by primeval forests, and it is one of the largest tropical rainforests in the world, the island is surrounded by plains, and the southern terrain is very low, and now it is a large wetland, only the indigenous people living in the jungle, occasionally come out to fish and hunt, in the foreseeable future, there is no value for commercial development at all.

Thinking of this, he smiled like a fox catching a chicken, and he unscrupulously threw a hook without any bait, waiting for Spex to bite it, anyway, I have shown enough sincerity, if you don't want war, you have to show sincerity, either swallow this barb without bait, or walk away quietly, and hide aside to wipe your tears.

In the face of absolute strength, Spex had to give in one more step: "Let Borneo become independent, and the Ming and the East India Company can trade here." ”

"Independence?" Just kidding, Zheng Zhilong laughed even more happily, and Sparks was obviously confused, "Your Excellency the Governor, do you think these natives who only have language and no writing can guarantee our commercial interests?" If this is the case, then why did the East India Company spend a huge amount of money to exterminate the small countries on the island one by one? ”

"We can garrison troops on the island." Spex stalked his neck, but he wouldn't let it.

"It seems that His Excellency the Governor is forgetful again," Zheng Zhilong looked at him without hesitation and mockery, "I have already said that Borneo belongs to the Ming Dynasty, could it be that the soldiers of the East India Company want to be stationed in the land of the Ming Dynasty?" The Ming had excellent soldiers and did not need the protection of the East India Company. ”

"How does the Commander think that the interests of the East India Company can be protected? Since it is a peace negotiation, you can't just take into account the interests of the Ming Dynasty, right? "Spex is ready to accept the Spice Islands model, but he wants Zheng Zhilong to bring it up, so he can bargain for more shares.

"Borneo will become a province of the Ming Dynasty, and in order to protect the interests of the East India Company, we can open a trading port to the East India Company so that you can conduct legal trade," Zheng Zhilong remembered the Luzon model, "but you must obey the laws of the Ming Dynasty and pay taxes to the Ming Dynasty according to the law—the tax rate of the Ming Dynasty is very light." ”

Spex thought about it, since he couldn't get the land of Borneo, he had to go off the rails to maximize the interests of the East India Company, which could be accepted by Zheng Zhilong.

Autonomy, Spex suddenly had a flash of inspiration, he was proud of his cleverness, he was repeatedly played by Zheng Zhilong, and now he finally got Zheng Zhilong, and this effect will take decades, or even hundreds of years to be reflected, Zheng Zhilong would never have imagined that the Netherlands was so independent, first becoming an autonomous province, and then becoming an independent country from Spain.

"Your Excellency, for the sake of our friendship and common interests, as well as possible future cooperative relations, I will build a province to make Borneo an autonomous province of the Ming Dynasty."

"Autonomous provinces? How to be autonomous? Zheng Zhilong was confused by Spex, and for the first time he felt that Spex was unfathomable.

"Borneo can become a province of the Ming Dynasty, but it must enjoy a high degree of autonomy, the Ming government cannot interfere in their daily activities, and every matter must be decided by themselves." Spex quickly sorted out his thinking, as long as the Ming did not participate in the daily management of Borneo, it would inevitably move towards independence, once the Ming declined, under the coercion and temptation of the East India Company, it was likely to return to the arms of the Netherlands, which was the largest and most lasting benefit he could fight for the East India Company.

"If you don't participate in the daily management, is that still my Ming province? Unless...... Unless the officials on the island are all sent by my Ming Dynasty. Zheng Zhilong thought about it, the newly recovered land of Daming was basically like this, and there was no loss to Daming, but Spex forced Daming to do this, which made him feel a little unhappy.

"Officials can't be sent by the Ming Dynasty, otherwise it's different from other provinces of the Ming Dynasty?" Spex denied Zheng Zhilong's wishful thinking.

"Who appoints the officials?" Zheng Zhilong was about to deny it directly, but Speix's words aroused his curiosity, is there still such a province in the world? Ao, I think about it, it seems that the Liaodong Division, Nuer Gandu Division, as well as the Wusi Zangdu Division and the Duogan Capital Division before the Ming Dynasty all did this, nominally belonging to the Ming Dynasty, but it was managed by the local head.

However, these capitals later rebelled, especially the Liaodong capital, after Zhu Youzhen ascended the throne, the Ming Dynasty simply established provinces in these places by force, and re-appointed officials by the imperial court.

Could it be that Spex is trying to turn Borneo into such a capital? Zheng Zhilong was suddenly full of vigilance.

"Officials are elected by the inhabitants of Borneo, who exercise administrative power on behalf of the people." Spex brought the management model of the East India Company to Borneo.

"Elected? What kind of management method is this? Zheng Zhilong had never heard of it, he suspected that Spex was deliberately making it bad, since the East India Company could not get Borneo, he would not let Da Ming get Borneo comfortably.

Speix sued Zheng Zhilong, the East India Company adopted this management model, all the shareholders elected the management personnel, no matter how big the company was, there would be no management problems, of course, the governor was appointed by the king, which did not sù Zheng Zhilong.

It was Zheng Zhilong's turn to have a turbulent wave in his heart, there was such a management method? It is no wonder that the East India Company, though only a trading company, was powerful enough to fight the entire country.

"But, in this way, does Borneo still belong to the Ming Dynasty?"

"Of course it belongs to the Ming Dynasty, they are like the East India Company, they need to pay taxes to their own government, and the tax can determine the affiliation between the two parties," Spex finally found a branch for Zheng Zhilong to accept, "In order to protect the interests of the East India Company in Borneo, if Commander Zheng can agree with me, I also agree that Borneo will belong to the Ming Dynasty from now on." ”

Zheng Zhilong has been chewing on Spex's words, and Zhu Youzhen asked him to look for talents in Nanyang, if Spex's is not Dutch, he will definitely recommend it to Zhu Youzhen, although he still does not quite understand the management model of the East India Company that Spexes is talking about.

The differences between the two sides became smaller and smaller, and as long as Zheng Zhilong agreed to Spex's request, the agreement between the South China Sea Fleet and the East India Company was basically reached.

But Zheng Zhilong still needs to digest this kind of management model that has never been seen in Daming, and I don't know if Zhu Youzhen will agree to this model.

Can this new model protect the interests of the Ming in Borneo? Can it protect the interests of the Han people in Borneo?

He thought of meeting Chen Da, the proprietor of the seafood restaurant in Pontianak, and he suddenly had an idea, but he thought that it was Da Ming's own business, and it had nothing to do with the Dutch, and he didn't need to ask Spex's opinion.

Zheng Zhilong agreed with Spex's opinion in principle, but he still needs to consider the specific details.

The two sides ended the second peace talks in a frank and friendly atmosphere, and after leaving Bangka Island, Zheng Zhilong immediately sent carrier pigeons in the direction of Jingshi in order to seek the next step of the peace talks, especially the management of Borneo.