Chapter 581 Verbal Argument (1)
The Celestial Wolf said coldly, "That's it? Last time, you were able to stir up a popular uprising in Yiwu, who knows what tricks you can do in the future? If you don't carry out a large-scale open invasion, you will send a small group of men and horses to land to cause trouble, and with Yan Shifan's help from you, you will naturally make the southeast forever peaceful. ”
Xu Hai hurriedly waved his hand and said, "No, no, no, last time we listened to Yan Shifan's words and misunderstood." After the misunderstanding was cleared up this time, it was natural to be honest with each other, and we couldn't do anything sorry for Governor Hu anymore. ”
Sky Wolf nodded: "Let's listen to his words, watch his deeds, Governor Hu also said, listening to your words is unreliable, you have to have the strength in your hands, and you have the ability to repel if you go to land to rob, so he wants to train Yiwu soldiers, just to hit your untrustworthy actions." ”
Xu Hai smiled "hehe": "Okay, then the thing I mentioned just now is that the official army and us join forces to eliminate Chen Sipan, there is no objection to this matter." ”
Heavenly Wolf said coldly: "I can't be the master of this matter, Governor Hu originally promised you to join forces to eliminate Chen Sipan last time, but you colluded with Yan Shifan and secretly made evil, now I am willing to promise you, he may not be willing, not to mention that this matter is not good for the imperial court, after the Guangdong pirates are annexed by you, even Fujian and Guangdong will not be peaceful, if I were Governor Hu, I would not agree to you." ”
The corners of Xu Hai's mouth hooked: "Brother Lang, a few words of kindness in this matter, you also know that after eliminating Chen Sipan, we can open up the trade routes in Nanyang and do business with the Francois people, and we no longer have to be subject to the Japanese." And as I just said, the Shimazu clan is dissatisfied with the owner of Wang this time, and intends to support Chen Sipan again. Chen Sipan's deputy Xiao Xian has already been to Kyushu Island last month, if Chen Sipan replaces us, I am afraid that it may not be a good thing for Governor Hu and the people along the coast, he is a pure pirate who only wants to rob and is not willing to do business. ”
Heavenly Wolf nodded: "If I have a chance, I will persuade Governor Hu again, is there anything else to mention?" He really didn't want to give Xu Hai any promises too early on this issue. After all, whether Chen Sipan's situation there is really as Xu Hai said, he has to find a way to verify it himself, and the longer this issue drags on. The more beneficial it is to Hu Zongxian.
Xu Hai smiled slightly: "This third is to hope that if the imperial court recruits us, we can't forcibly disband all our subordinates, and the owner of the Wang ship and the major leaders will not go ashore." Just accept the title of the imperial court. And still keep our armament, we will take over the overseas trade, and the merchant ships will also be guarded by us, and as for this military salary, the imperial court can not give it, and we can feed these hundreds of thousands of brothers by ourselves. ”
Heavenly Wolf laughed: "Brother Xu is really shrewd, such a thing without capital and profit can be mentioned, if the court only gives you a false title." If you can't control your troops, what else is it called? If the court commands your people. Even if you leaders don't come ashore, what's the point of this negotiation? To put it bluntly, your request is for Governor Hu to unilaterally open the sea ban, allow you to do business, and help you eliminate Chen Sipan, you have nothing to lose, right? ”
Xu Hai smiled: "Brother Lang doesn't need to say it so ugly, in fact, if you think about it carefully, for us leaders, in fact, if you can't go ashore, it doesn't make much difference if you don't become an official, you have made so much money over the years, even if you go to Japan to buy a piece of land to live in, you can also be at ease, just considering the livelihood of hundreds of thousands of brothers under your command, they don't have so much money from us, in case they go back to the township, they may be liquidated by the government, so if the court collects us according to the way it treats the bandit green forest, I'm afraid that the brothers won't be able to agree. ”
Heavenly Wolf said coldly: "Governor Hu said clearly, he will issue an amnesty order to all your men, allowing them to return to their hometowns, if they want to do small business or farming, the imperial court will introduce policies to give subsidies, but it is impossible for the imperial court to raise an army of more than 100,000 people, so most of them are cut off, it is a sure thing, as for those Japanese, you can give them more money and send them back to Japan, it is really not good, there are especially capable warriors, as long as they do not have the ambition of the Oriental people to invade the Central Plains, Governor Hu said that it was also possible to stay in office depending on the situation, just as there were some Mongols in the northern border army who served as high-ranking officials. ”
Xu Hai shook his head: "Brother Lang, this account is not calculated like this, now the situation is very clear, hundreds of thousands of brothers have been accustomed to doing this business without capital over the years, they can eat and drink spicy food, and they want to go back and be oppressed by the government again, most of them are unwilling, and those Japanese ronin, most of them were defeated in Japan, had no land, and had no way to make a living, even if they were given a sum of money, they could not be dismissed, and the best result was that after these people took the money and returned to their hometowns, they found that they were not as good as they are now, So he went to the sea again to resume his old business, and he was a widow again. ”
Tian Wolf smiled: "Brother Xu, if you are reorganized and recruited, you will be responsible for the peace of the sea, if these former subordinates are bandits again, robbing homes and houses, then it will be the responsibility of you officers and soldiers to eliminate them and ensure the peace of the sea, otherwise what is the use of raising soldiers?" ”
Xu Hai's face changed greatly: "What did you say?" You want me to exterminate my former men? ”
The wolf put away his smile and said: "Brother Xu, if you accept Zhao'an, you are the general of the official army, if they refuse to be a good citizen and become a coward again, then they are the enemies of the country, the court can forgive them once, but they cannot be allowed to rebel, this reason is not difficult to understand." ”
Xu Hai said hatefully: "They are all subordinates who have followed me for many years, how can they kill each other!"
The wolf sighed: "Brother Xu, when you were a widow, they were your subordinates and brothers, but once you reform and turn back to the right path, you will be the general of the imperial court, to ensure the peace of the coast, but also to protect the merchant ships, if they attack the coastal towns and loot the merchant fleet, it will be to rob you and other brothers in the army of food, do you still have to take care of the old feelings?" ”
A trace of confusion flashed in Xu Hai's eyes: "No matter what you say, I still can't attack my own people, isn't it the best way to mention it just now, as long as you ban trade." We can afford to feed these hundreds of thousands of subordinates, and we don't need the imperial court to disband us. ”
The Celestial Wolf shook his head: "The existence of such a large army that does not obey the orders and dispatches of the imperial court. It is unacceptable to the emperor and the governor of Hu, and if your army cannot be directly controlled and dissolved, it will set a very bad precedent for other places, so that the bandits in the world will think that as long as they occupy the mountain as the king, they will rob the house, even if it is a big trouble. If you can keep yourself safe, you will follow suit, and then the country will have no peace. So Governor Hu meant. At the very least, you leaders will have to go ashore to accept official positions in the imperial court, as a sign of the actual control of the imperial court over you. ”
Xu Hai replied coldly: "Do you think about capturing the thief and capturing the king first, so that after our leaders go ashore, we will catch them all." So our army will be leaderless. I was able to collapse on my own. ”
The wolf smiled and said: "If you do this, won't the emperor and Hu Zongxian lose their trust in the world, if you are willing to go ashore to accept Zhao'an, then you have already subdued, and you will no longer be a threat and disaster to the country, if you kill you again at this time, it will not only force your subordinates to rebel, but also cut off the hope of other bandits in the world who want to change their ways." It can be said that there are many harms but no benefits. ”
Xu Hai gritted his teeth: "Okay, Sky Wolf." No need to rhetoric, I know that in the eyes of the government, we are bandits for one day and bandits for life, and it is impossible to treat us as good citizens. If we disband our men and go ashore alone, it will not be a fish on your shore, or whether we will kill or not, it is all up to you to think about it. ”
The wolf also put away his smile and said coldly: "If you want to kill you, the last time you came to Hangzhou, Governor Hu could do it, and this time I went to your Shuangyu Island alone, and I didn't consider the issue of life and death at all, Xu Hai, our side has always been very sincere, but it is you who keep engaging in all kinds of ghosts, and the plan you proposed actually has no loss to yourself, but the imperial court has to pay the price of trade for it, and you have money to make desperately to buy silk from the Ming Dynasty, If you don't have any money to make, you can go back to your old business at any time and rob the coast again. Don't you think it's too much to be a bandit and be so arrogant? ”
Beads of sweat began to appear on Xu Hai's forehead, and he gritted his teeth and said: "Heavenly wolf, that sea ban policy is the emperor's mediocre policy of ignoring hundreds of thousands of coastal people for his own face, and it should have been changed a long time ago, if he doesn't change it, then there will continue to be coastal people to join us, besides, we don't rob, but are responsible for buying silk and porcelain, and then selling it to Nanyang, who doesn't do this business?" ”
The wolf's eyes widened, and he said sharply, "Then why do you rob houses and rob houses come to do this business? The imperial court did not prohibit the trade with the Francophiles, and you can now see the constant flow of Western merchant ships in Ningbo Port, why do you make this money? ”
Xu Hai's eyes flashed fiercely: "Because we are the overlord of the sea, if we can't make money, that merchant ship of the Francophone people will not want to enter this Ningbo port." ”
The wolf laughed loudly, his voice was full of anger, which shook Xu Hai's eardrums for a while, and after laughing, the wolf's expression became extremely resolute: "To put it bluntly, you still rely on your own force, anyway, the emperor and Governor Hu don't look down on the silver taels that trade with overseas at all, so don't do it." If you don't want to negotiate, then just keep fighting and see who is afraid of whom. ”
Xu Hai was speechless when he said this, and in an instant, he changed his smiling face: "Brother Lang, don't be too excited, calm down." In fact, that's what I mean, if the silk of the imperial court is transported to the palace, it can't be turned into silver, and if it's idle, it's better to sell it to us, and we can make more money as soon as we change hands, which is higher than the market price of silk bought and sold in the mainland, isn't it good for everyone. Now the imperial court is fighting with the Mongols in the north, even in the southeast, it is recruiting troops as you said, which requires money, why can't you get along with money? ”
Heavenly Wolf Zhengse said: "What Brother Xu said is wrong, in addition to money, there are many things in the world that money can't buy, first of all, this is the right way, if the imperial court bows its head to the Japanese robbers, retains your arms, can't command your troops, and even subcontracts this overseas trade to you, it will give all kinds of thieves a very bad precedent." ”
"The second is that the people take food as the sky, Zhejiang is a place with seven mountains, two rivers and one field, and the land is very small, and all the grain is planted every year, which may not be able to feed the people of a province. They also had to transfer grain from other places at a high price, and if the people everywhere saw that the silk was profitable, they would stop growing grain one after another. Replace the mulberry tree to produce silk and sell it for money, Brother Xu, do you say that this silk can fill your stomach? If this wind opens and there is no food in the world, then the hungry people everywhere will definitely rise up as thieves, and the world will be in chaos!"
Xu Hai never thought about this problem. was stunned for a moment, and then argued: "You can transfer food from other places." ”
Sky Wolf sneered: "The people are not fools, and the people in other places see that it is more profitable to grow mulberry trees to produce silk than to grow grain. Nine times out of ten, they will change careers to become mulberry farmers, you must know that more than half of the land under the current Great Tomorrow is in the hands of royal nobles and scholars, and they naturally look at what money is going to do. ”
Xu Hai smiled: "Sky Wolf, you are just a brocade guard. And not the emperor. It's not Hu Zongxian, they don't care about things, what do you have to worry about so much? ”
Heavenly Wolf said categorically: "The big husband should be careful about the world, how can he only take care of himself, if the hungry people in the world are everywhere and encounter troubled times, it is definitely not what I want to see, Xu Hai." If that day comes, do you think you can continue to do the silk business in peace? ”
Xu Hai sighed: "Brother Lang." These major military affairs are not something that we people in the rivers and lakes need to think about more, so let's leave it to Emperor Lao'er and Hu Zongxian to think more. According to what you mean, most of our third mention is not allowed? ”
Tianluo nodded seriously: "Governor Hu made it clear to me when I came, this time we must complete Zhao'an, and if you leaders do not go ashore to accept the official positions and appointments of the imperial court, it will not be considered Zhao'an, as for how you find a way to persuade your subordinates to accept this matter, it depends on your control power, if it really doesn't work, this matter can be discussed in the long run, after you accept Zhao'an, we will consider opening up trade, but before that, you still must not attack coastal towns, otherwise all agreements will be automatically nullified." ”
Xu Hai said angrily: "Your terms are too domineering, if we don't open trade, what do the hundreds of thousands of people under our command eat and drink, and the rabbits will bite people when they are in a hurry, if we have no source of income, then we have to continue to do this business of robbing houses." ”
The wolf said coldly: "That would be a split in two, in fact, you also know that now you can't grab too many things, and in the future, with the training of the new army of the imperial court and the battle, you will only get less and less, and this will cut off all the ways to reconcile with the imperial court, just bring about your own destruction, if I were you, even if I went to rob the merchant ships of the Francophiles, I would not go ashore to rob again." ”
Xu Hai's mouth was panting, his eyes were rolling, obviously he was about to go crazy by the strategy of pulling and beating, but with a strict bottom line, he roared: "Sky Wolf, that's not to talk about, right?" Sue you, if you want us to go ashore, there is no door, and it is even more impossible to disband our subordinates!"
The wolf smiled slightly: "Brother Xu, don't be so angry, in fact, you can go ashore by yourself first, and then send your henchmen to temporarily control your subordinates, as long as your subordinates are still there, the imperial court will not risk forcing you to take your lives, haven't you ever thought about this?" ”
Xu Hai was stunned for a moment, as if he saw a glimmer of hope, and hurriedly asked, "Is this your personal idea, or is it what Governor Hu meant?" ”
Tianluo Zhengse said: "Actually, this is just a face of Governor Hu, you said that if he recruits you and makes you a general of the imperial court, you will be his subordinates in the future, and you can solve the southeast problem without blood, why not, besides, your ships are strong and artillery, if you are loyal to the state affairs and protect the sea route for the Ming Dynasty, then Governor Hu will even save money for shipbuilding." It's just that if you don't even want to go to the shore and only accept an empty title, then don't say that Governor Hu himself has no shame on his face, even the ministers of the Qing faction in the court will also take the opportunity to attack, and then the southeast will be flat, and Governor Hu is no longer indispensable, maybe the emperor will cross the river and tear down the bridge, and use this as a reason to remove Governor Hu. After all, if he has made miraculous achievements in the southeast over the years, his power will be too great, and he must move. ”
Xu Hai nodded: "What you said makes sense, but can you be sure that after we go ashore and receive official positions, we will be safe?" ”
Sky Wolf laughed: "Your subordinates are all here, what is there to worry about, besides, Governor Hu really wants to do it, he took you down last time, Brother Xu went deep into the mainland last time, and I also admire my brother for his courage, why is he so forward-looking this time?" ”
Xu Hai shook his head: "It's different, the owner of the Wang boat is the real leader, as long as he is here, you don't dare to do anything to us, but if the owner of the Wang boat also goes ashore, it will be difficult to say, and the leader of the rebel army is not once or twice trapped by the imperial court." Besides, what we have done in the southeast is too big. ”
Tianluo Zhengse said: "Governor Hu is thinking about this, so he specially sent the family of the owner of the Wang boat who was originally detained in the prison in Huizhou, especially his son, to Hangzhou, if you are a guest, I also brought a handwritten letter from Wang Gongzi this time, that is, to ask the owner of the Wang boat to go home early and reunite with his family, you say, if the imperial court really wants to kill them all, it will behead all the relatives of the owner of the Wang ship in the mainland in the morning, will it be like this?" ”
Xu Hai said suspiciously: "The family of the owner of the Wang ship has not been executed, is this true?" (To be continued......)