Chapter 134: Interview, Closed Change
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Because he always believed that, because of the same ultimate goal, the constitutionalists and revolutionaries could finally reach a political understanding. At least in his view, the Revival Society and the Constitutionalists are fully capable of uniting and building the country together.
The revolutionary leader has been created, and Song Fuhua is radiating more and more dazzling light, attracting more revolutionaries and guiding the direction of the revolution; The vane of the constitutionalist is also forming, with Chen Wenqiang's strength and fame, who else can he be?
"What's so hard about constitutionalism? (1) to protect the fundamental rights and freedoms of citizens; The second is the restriction of public power, and the authority and legitimacy of all public power come from the Constitution. β
Interview, interview, interview, must still be interview. We must let the vast number of Chinese people and people around the world know through the form of exclusive interviews that there is a Chinese reformer Chen Wenqiang, who not only has a brilliant personal experience, but also has advanced constitutional concepts, and has strong self-confidence, and must make everyone see tears in their eyes......
Whatever! Anyway, Chen Wenqiang was sitting in danger at this time, and was being interviewed by Duan Na, the chief reporter of Hong Kong's "China Post".
Whether from the perspective of political science or journalism, Duan Na is a historical figure worth documenting. His prowess in journalism is as striking as his influence on modern Chinese politics.
In 1903, Duan Na interviewed Cen Chunxuan, the governor of Liangguang, and became his foreign adviser, and began to participate in China's political life as a journalist. At this time, in the late Manchu Qing Dynasty, when China was in the midst of unprecedented changes, the royalists, reformists, and revolutionaries sang and relented, and each faction hoped to go to the center of power and save China from the storm. Who is the future of this ancient country?
All of this puts a question mark in Duanna's mind, what is wrong with China? Five years ago, his friend Watson told him that there is a mysterious force in China, but it needs to be awakened.
Historically, Duan Na has devoted himself to Chinese politics. The belief and motivation are simple: to help the Chinese escape the pitiful fate of enslavement and make China a rising lion in the East. He pinned his hopes on the politicians of China, who were considered to be ahead of their time. He hopes that through these politicians, he will extend his understanding of Western democracy to China. In the end, however, he was deeply disappointed. His ambition and vision to save China were not realized in the politicians he relied on. His good wishes burst like bubbles one after another.
But now, Duan Na does not have such experience and loss, he sympathizes with the Chinese democrats, admires the Chinese revolutionaries, and pins China's hopes on these people.
And the role of China at that time. It can be summarized in three aspects, namely, interpreting the voice of the West to China; conveying China's voice to the West; In the form of personal suggestions, Western democratic ideas are used to directly influence Chinese politicians, and Chinese society is influenced by Chinese politicians' intervention in current affairs or major initiatives.
Although Duan Na very much hopes to save China as soon as possible, Chen Wenqiang's big words make him very worried, and he feels that Chen Wenqiang is too optimistic about the promotion and implementation of constitutionalism.
"Mr. Chen, constitutionalism can be simplified. But the implementation is an extremely complex process. Let's talk about England, from Magna Carta to real constitutionalism. But it has gone through a long historical development. Judging from the current level of education, democratic habits, and consciousness of the Chinese people, it seems that it is not as easy to achieve constitutional government as you say. β
Despite his deep affection for China, he stubbornly maintained his Western way of life. He never cares about Chinese food, only eats Western food. In China, he always hired a Western chef to accompany him on his journey. And. He never learned Chinese and stubbornly used English to deal with Chinese for decades.
Chen Wenqiang can fully understand Duanna's English, but he still found a temporary translator - Ah Xuan. Although Ah Xuan's translation was a little slow and even a little fallacious, Chen Wenqiang preferred to repeat it. I'd rather keep correcting Ah Xuan.
"Yes, your concerns are well founded. It is indeed not feasible to forcibly transplant the Western constitutional system in consideration of the Western system and China's specific national conditions, such as the backward economic, social, and folk environment. However, the implementation of constitutionalism does not mean that all aspects and conditions are fully met, but that it can be carried out in an orderly and gradual manner, and constitutional enlightenment can be carried out while it is implemented, and the most important thing is to take the first step bravely. Chen Wenqiang stretched out a finger and emphasized: "This first step is to formulate a constitution and promulgate the world, it doesn't matter if it is not perfect, the constitutions of various countries are not immutable, but there are additions and changes, and they are constantly adjusted!" β
Of course, the constitution does not represent constitutionalism, and the existence of a constitution does not mean that there will necessarily be an institutionalized and concrete constitutional system. It does not rule out the occurrence of a country's constitution that promises rights to the people, but cannot be found in reality. So, it's going to be a long and arduous process. However, this is the inevitable beginning, and the logical force of governing the country with the rule of law - with a true sense of law is irreversible. β
Taste it carefully, it is grandiose, and there is nothing new. It can be said that these can be found in the book, although for the Chinese, it is very new and original.
"Formulating and promulgating a constitution, Mr. Chan thinks it's a top priority, right?" After receiving an affirmative answer, Duan Na paused and continued to ask: "From the current point of view, it seems that the bureaucracy and the people of the Great Qing Kingdom are essentially inclined to democracy. What do you think about if, once the democratic process is initiated, it will greatly increase the likelihood of imperial revival? β
"The advanced and civilized will eventually prevail over the backward and barbaric, and this is the trend of the world and the general trend of history." "In terms of public support, I think it's certain that if we are given time and opportunity, we should be able to achieve most of the goals of the reform." β
"Then what does Mr. Chen think of the Revolutionary Party?" "I'm a journalist, and I have to meet all kinds of people for the sake of journalism, and of course I've been in contact with the revolutionary party. Many revolutionaries had good family backgrounds and good careers, but they gave up all this to devote themselves to patriotism. It is indeed admirable to devote oneself to the revolution. β
This is a sensitive topic, which shows the frankness, stubbornness and seriousness of Duanna, which Chen Wenqiang cannot avoid. Because he wants to show a certain attitude, and even use it to build momentum for the revival.
pondered for a moment. Chen Wenqiang said slowly: "I have no contact with the revolutionary party, and I can only learn about their ideas and methods from the newspapers and media. Well, let's talk about the two major groups of the Revolutionary Party, the Revival Society and the Alliance Association, and my feeling is that Revival will be stronger. β
"There should be no doubt about this, and the actual situation basically proves it." Duan Na nodded and asked, "What is Mr. Chen's evaluation of the two current revolutionary leaders of Sun and Song?" β
Chen Wenqiang smiled faintly. said: "Sun was the first to advocate the revolution, but there is an old Chinese saying: the latecomer prevails. Song has been in the limelight recently, and his ideological theories seem to be more in-depth than Sun's, and he is more rational and calm than Sun. Well, that's just my personal feeling. In addition, Sun and Song were from different backgrounds, and Song was born in China as a local revolutionary. I think he understands Chinese society better, and the policies he introduces are more likely to be embraced by the public. And Sun was born overseas. I don't know much about Chinese society. He is also a big believer in Western culture, and the revolutionary method is transplantation, which is not suitable for China's national conditions, and in my opinion, it will hardly succeed. β
Although it seems to be fair, it is obvious that Zansong derogates Sun. Duan Na looked at Chen Wenqiang thoughtfully. He grinned and said, "What about Song, will he succeed?" β
"Only God knows." Chen Wenqiang smiled even more and said, "I'm not a prophet, I'm just talking about my personal feelings." β
"This is a sensitive topic. It's also really hard to predict. Duan Na nodded and said, "Mr. Chen is also more frank, although you must say more than that." In additionββ" Looking at Chen Wenqiang meaningfully, Duan Na asked cautiously: "In addition to drumming and shouting for the constitution, it is rumored that you have a lot to do with the trend of resisting the United States, and it is you who organized a coalition behind the scenes and raised a lot of funds, so that the boycott of American goods has not completely stopped until now." β
"The rumors are not true, don't believe them." Chen Wenqiang waved his hand, paused, and said solemnly: "If you start from my personal feelings, I hope that the boycott of American goods can continue." Moreover, I hope that this is not the last time, and it will not be directed only against the United States. I hope that the Chinese people will rise up and resolutely fight back against any incident that violates China's sovereignty and insults the dignity of the nation. β
"Do you have a specific pointer?"
"Britain is one of the most greedy and shameless countries. On the surface, he looks like a gentleman, but in fact he is a robber and a vampire. They became rich by plundering and squeezing the colonies, and one of the greatest evils was to import opium into China and destroy the mental and physical strength of the Chinese. Chen Wenqiang's resentment was overflowing, and he waved his hand violently, "There is also Japan, forcibly occupying Taiwan and entrenching in the northeast, which will be China's most dangerous and vicious enemy." By the way, this brings us to the Alliance, which relies on the financial resources and help of the Japanese, and its motives are very suspicious. If they make political deals with the Japanese for the sake of their revolution and betray the interests of the country and the nation, no matter how noble their intentions, they will be scolded as traitors, right? β
Duan Na nodded again and again in deep agreement, he deeply thought of the crimes of Britain, and was very close to Chen Wenqiang's view. But as for the League, he obviously did not think that Chen Wenqiang's assertion was correct.
"Many Japanese people sympathize with and support the Chinese revolution, especially those in the opposition, which is not quite the same as the official one." "Besides, the revolution would have gone more smoothly if it had the sympathy and help of other countries." β
"Naive." Chen Wenqiang pursed his lips and said with some disdain: "When it comes to national interests, it is all about benefit." If you don't even understand this - hehe. β
Duan Na wanted to open his mouth to refute, but Chen Wenqiang had already waved his hand to signal the end of the interview, and turned to talk to Duan Na about other things.
"To set up a newspaper that is dedicated to reporting on international events, it is best to have analysis and judgment." Duan Na was a little puzzled, so he asked: "Now that the trend of constitutionalism has risen, how can Mr. Chen divert his attention and not focus on the country?" β
"We must pay attention to the domestic situation, but we must also pay attention to the changes in the international situation, and the most important thing is to let the people and the imperial court open their eyes and know the changes in the world situation, the development and changes of various countries, and better handle foreign affairs and relations." Chen Wenqiang explained: "I guess you don't believe it, many court officials don't even know that the earth is round, and they don't know much about the situation of the great powers. β
"That's it-" Duan Na fell into deep thought, he felt that Chen Wenqiang's purpose was probably not so simple, but he couldn't guess it through, and Chen Wenqiang's reason was reasonable.
Chen Wenqiang is very keen to get more help and support from Germany, which is not only short-term, but also long-term. However, for the officials of the imperial court who are blind to the international situation, if they want to promote the further development of Sino-German relations at an early date, it is far from enough to rely on their ability.
Not only the officials of the imperial court, but also the intellectuals in China, who did not care about the changes in the political forces of various countries and the adjustment of domestic and foreign policies, and even did not see them. If we open a larger and broader window of information to the outside world and broaden the horizons of China's best strata, it will be of great benefit both now and in the future.
In the United Kingdom, for example, there is a change of political parties, and there will be some changes in policy, especially towards the opium trade. If we seize the opportunity and take advantage of world public opinion, the harm of tobacco in China should be greatly reduced, if not stopped.
Another example is that the movement to the United States has already achieved initial success, and taking advantage of Roosevelt's eagerness to remedy and recover his influence in China, and making good use of it, it is completely possible to obtain more benefits than in history, and it is by no means just a small benefit such as returning the Gengzi indemnity.
Another example is the olive branch that Germany swayed to China, if it knew the interests of the great powers, it would naturally be able to pull one side to the other and resist the invasion of China by other powers.
Of course, these are just assumptions, and it is unknown how many opportunities Chen Wenqiang can seize. But there is no doubt that the problems exposed must always be solved and remedied, and it is better to act early than late. Moreover, this is not only a political consideration, but also knowing the situation of each country and having all kinds of information is also of great benefit to the promotion and development of economic activities.
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