Jiang Hexing was originally a little angry, looking at this old man, his face is kind, and he is not bad. Pen × fun × Pavilion www. ｂｉｑｕｇｅ。 info Jiang Hexing's mind calmed down, and he had the heart to investigate the level of this person he was looking for.

Jiang Hexing said: "Mr. Xu, I didn't come to Ma Yuan to ask him to do anything, I just wanted to ask some questions, can you help him answer?" ”

The old man was not in a hurry, picked up the teacup in front of him, and took a sip gently. Put down the teacup, smiled, nodded and said, "Why is it difficult to answer the question?" Just what do you call a gentleman? What kind of questions do you want to ask? ”

Jiang Hexing smiled faintly and said, "My surname is Jiang, you can call me Mr. Jiang." I see that you are acting on behalf of Ma to help the government, so I would like to ask Mr. What is the basis of politics? ”

"Nature is people-oriented." The old man did not pause, and immediately replied.

"People-oriented, easy to say, I'm afraid it's hard to do. Mr. Xu, how can we be people-oriented? ”

The old man stretched out two fingers and said, "One is food and clothing, and the other is prison." ”

Jiang Hexingdao: "How do you say it exactly? ”

The old man was not in a hurry, and said slowly: "The so-called food and clothing refers to the food, clothing, housing and transportation of the people, without hunger and cold, and living a rich life. The so-called criminal prison refers to the judgment and sentencing of cases, which must be impartial and fair, and serious crimes must be severely punished, but people cannot be resurrected after death, and they must be executed with great caution. ”

Jiang Hexing chased and asked, "How can we be fair and fair?" ”

Xu Lang said: "Law, reason, and emotion, law is the foundation, and reason and emotion cannot be ignored." ”

Jiang Hexing was pondering the law and reason of what Xu Lang said, and he was speechless for a long time, when the old man looked at Jiang Hexing, and then asked, "Is Mr. Jiang the king?" ”

Jiang Hexing nodded.

Xu Lang stood up, bowed and saluted: "Forgive sins with the king, Xu Lang has always been ignorant of the king, and he was offended." ”

Jiang Hexing hurriedly returned the salute and said: "Mr. is polite, I didn't explain it myself, how can I blame you?" How can you tell it's mine? ”

Xu Lang said: "I have never seen Hewang, but I have seen some books of Hewang, and I know that Hewang is not a mortal, and his thinking is different from ours." Hey, it's my fault, I didn't think about this just now, I just thought about the official document. You came in just now, you were not in a hurry, you came in to find horse reinforcement, and ordinary people probably wouldn't dare, even if it was a relative, it wouldn't be like this. Besides, even if it's a relative, they won't take me into account of my political affairs, because I'm too confused. ”

Xu Lang said, called a person, and taught him to go and call Ma Yuan back immediately.

Jiang Hexing looked at Xu Lang with a smile and said, "Mr. Xu, I just saw that you reviewed the official document very quickly, it seems that you have a plan in your heart, can I take a look at the official document you approved?" ”

Xu Lang nodded, held the stack of official papers, and put it in front of Jiang Hexing. Jiang Hexing just looked at some in a hurry, and randomly found two to take a closer look, I have to say that Xu Lang's official instructions are the same as what he just said about prison, the law is reasonable, and the three aspects are very thoughtful. Jiang Hexing secretly thought that he didn't know such a talent.

Jiang Hexing and Xu Lang sat in the house and chatted, and also told Xu Lang about what he had seen and heard along the way, and talked about his views. Xu Lang made a report on the situation in Anwu, focusing on the situation of mining, saying that some mineral deposits have been discovered, but they have not yet been determined, and it is estimated that it will take some time.

The two of them chatted very speculatively, Xu Lang has been in officialdom for a long time, has a lot of knowledge, and has extraordinary experience, often in one sentence. The new knowledge and new ideas of Jianghexing can also be talked about, and Xu Lang admires it greatly.

Finally, Jiang Hexing said: "Mr. Xu, what do you see that we are most lacking here in Pingzhou? ”

Xu Lang said: "Talents in governance, I think He Wang has been cultivating students, but it is not urgent. ”

Jiang Hexing nodded and said: "What Mr. Xu said is very true, you see my Pingzhou Mansion, some important positions can't even find people. It is difficult for me to use a pure scholar, who has no experience in governance and does not understand the world. The rest of the people who are well-versed in the world are too slippery, plus we are in Pingzhou, and my requirements for officials are to be professional first, not how high morality is required. If you can't, help me introduce some talents. ”

Xu Lang pondered for a moment and said: "Hewang, I'm afraid that the person you are looking for will not be easy to find, I have been here for a few years, and I have just figured out your way here." Your requirements are much higher than those I used to have in Handi. ”

"In Mr. Xu's view, what are the differences?"

"Han land requirements, filial piety and virtue, this is fundamental. Only then did they ask for love for the people. Pingzhou is different, Pingzhou does not pay much attention to morality, more requirements are for officials to know how to act, and more importantly, to see practical results. One emphasizes virtue and the other emphasizes effectiveness. ”

Jiang Hexing asked, "Which one does Mr. Xu think is better?" ”

Xu Lang said: "I really couldn't get used to your requirements before, I didn't mention virtue, I only asked officials to abide by the rules. I have also carefully studied some of the rules you wrote, and I was very unimpressed at the time, thinking that this place is barbaric, and it is good to have this request. But after a few years of watching, I found that it was very different. The rules are strict, and it is difficult for officials to have the opportunity to do evil. The requirements for virtue are too high, in fact, many people can't do it, on the contrary, what they do is actually very disadvantaged. Everyone is pretending to be very virtuous, no one is willing to tell the truth, everyone is telling lies to each other, doing things that seem to be virtuous, and in terms of effectiveness, there is almost no practical effect. ”

Jiang Hexing said: "Governing the country by virtue sounds very right, but no one knows who is virtuous, I also want to find a person with high morality, the problem is that a person with high morality does not have words engraved on his face, on the contrary, a person with a mouth full of morality is likely to be the most lacking in morality." Something that can't be measured, that's why I give up. The rules are clear, no matter what your virtue is, if you obey the rules, you are a good person, and if you don't follow the rules, you are a bad person. If you don't look at the results, the people who sit and talk about the Tao every day will be in a high position, and the people who work hard will always work hard. They will be uneven, and if they are uneven, they will complain. If the small grievances are incomprehensible, the big grievances will follow, and I am afraid that it will be difficult for me to stabilize Pingzhou. ”

Xu Lang said: "I only now understand why He Wang did this, did he really think it would be effective at the beginning?" But after looking at it in the past few years, it still works a lot. ”

At this time, there was a neighing of war horses in the courtyard, and the two turned their heads to look out. I saw Ma Yuan covered in armor, sweating profusely, and his face covered with dust, running towards the house.

Jiang Hexing stood up and said, "Ma Yuan, don't worry, let's go and unload your armor first and change your clothes." It's summer, you see you, let's change it. ”

Speaking of this, Ma Yuan gave a salute and said, "And the king, I really don't know ......'"

Jiang Hexing waved his hand and said, "Hurry up and change your clothes, clean up, and talk for a long time later." ”

Ma Yuan turned to leave, and Xu Lang said: "When General Ma is training, he is always wearing armor. He treats peacetime as wartime, so that the army will not slack off in wartime. ”

Jiang Hexing nodded and said, "Ma Yuan is good." ”

Jiang Hexing and Xu Lang chatted for a while, and Ma Yuan packed up and entered the office again. Xu Lang told him with a smile what had just happened, and Ma Yuan said with shame on his face: "He Wang, I didn't mean to hide it, it's really a shortage of talents in Anwu." I'm afraid that if I say it, you will transfer Mr. Xu to Pingzhou Mansion. ”

Jiang Hexing laughed and said: "Although we are short of talents, I won't rob you of it, don't worry." Besides, Anwu is also an important place, and it used to be difficult for you to manage the army and govern alone. ”

Ma Yuan said: "Actually, Master Xu Lang has taught me for a long time, and after I got married, I took his old man as my teacher, and I have been asking him for advice on the ability to discern direction at night. Later, I asked a lot of questions, and slowly I poached him from my father-in-law, first to help me, and then to let him act as an agent for the old man when I was away. It's really an old man who is very good at governance, and he is much better than me. ”

Jiang Hexing said: "In the future, you will be in charge of the army, and Anwu will trouble Mr. Xu here first." ”

Xu Lang stood up and hurriedly said: "Hewang, no, I'm just an agent, how dare I rob Ma Yuan's position?" ”

Jiang Hexing said: "Don't worry, Ma Yuan has another important use, I have a general, and I manage civil affairs every day, isn't it a waste?" There is really no one, so he was in charge, and now that there are people, he still has to pick up the burden of our army. ”

Xu Lang and Ma Yuan were very excited, Jiang Hexing didn't go into details, and then asked Ma Yuan about military affairs, Ma Yuan introduced the situation, there was nothing special, just a step-by-step training.

Jiang Hexing stayed in Anwudo for a few days, and went to Fan Jia's shipyard to have a look, and there was also a boat school, all of which were small and large-scale. After reading it, Jiang Hexing said goodbye to Ma Yuan and the others, took his own soldiers, took a brief look at Xianwu City, and then returned to Pingzhou Mansion.

This trip took more than three months, and it was still spring when I left, and although it was still very hot when I came back, everyone knew that autumn was coming, because the spring wheat on both sides of the road was ripe.

Jiang Hexing returned home, rested at home fiercely, and spent half a month at home with his wife and children, and did not go out without anything important. There was something important, Li Xiaowen and Zhang Kai went directly to his house to talk to him.