"Zirui, shouldn't you come to me today because of the sea ban?" Xia Yan's tone was a little helpless. Pen? Interesting? Pavilion wWw. ｂiquge。 ｉｎfo

"That's right..."Peng Yue walked around to Xia Yan, "If you don't help me in this matter, I will definitely not succeed." ”

"But I already said last time, I have always done things only right and wrong..."Xia Yan deliberately accentuated his words, "If you want to abolish the sea ban, convince me first." ”

"Since that's the case, then I won't beat around the bush..."Peng Yue's words changed, "Please also ask Lord Xia to calm down first, and don't be prejudiced against the abolition of the sea ban." ”

"Zirui doesn't have to worry about this..."Xia Yan smiled lightly, "I'm not an unreasonable person, there are many benefits to abolishing the sea ban, I know this very well, but there are also many drawbacks, and I would rather choose to continue to implement the sea ban policy." ”

"Lord Xia, maybe I didn't make my words clear last time..."Peng Yue sat down under Xia Yan, "What you are worried about is nothing more than eunuchs interfering in politics." You are afraid that as soon as the sea ban is opened, the emperor will send eunuchs to master the sailors to go to sea after all kinds of considerations. Even if the saints don't like eunuchs today, they won't be appointed. But after a hundred years, it is difficult to guarantee that the successor emperor will not be appointed, am I right? ”

"You're right, it's not just that I have this level of worry, but also Lord Liu Daxia, who was strongly opposed at the beginning, also has this idea, and many ministers in the DPRK and China have this idea." Xia Yan glanced away, "So... Zirui, it's not that I don't want to help you this time, but... What you're doing this time is really... It is not good for the country. ”

"Lord Xia, I also deeply agree with your point of view, eunuchs interfere in politics, there are all kinds of harm but no benefit... However, in this trade and trade, it is not necessary to appoint eunuchs to master the water masters, and even no one needs to master the water masters..."Peng Yue looked at Xia Yan's somewhat puzzled eyes and said with a smile, "What I want to do is not to restore tributary trade, but to abolish the maritime ban policy and open up trade." Just like the Song Dynasty, ports were set up along the coast to trade with overseas countries. Instead of driving treasure ships everywhere like Zheng He went to the West back then. ”

"It turns out that you have this idea, why didn't you say it earlier, I thought you wanted to restore the feat of going to the sea during the Chengzu period!" Xia Yan's eyes revealed some joy.

"Lord Xia, what I am thinking about is also this people's society, how can I do such a thing with many drawbacks." Peng Yue saw that Xia Yan's attitude had changed, and his heart was also happy, "The disadvantages of tributary trade are too great, not to mention that it is easy to cause eunuchs to interfere in politics, even in terms of profits, it is also debatable. For example, although tributary trade is very profitable, it is also expensive, and even many costs are unnecessary, and this drawback must be removed. ”

"And in this way, we don't have to worry about eunuchs interfering in politics at all, a major drawback will be naturally removed, and presumably the civil officials opposed by the DPRK and China will be reduced by more than half because of this, right?"

"It's not enough to reduce by half, but the resistance will naturally be smaller..."Xia Yan's facial expression returned to calm, "However, this method you proposed will give rise to some other problems." ”

"Huh? What's the problem? Peng Yue didn't expect that there would be a new trouble.

"Actually, you also know that the imperial court has not always allowed foreign trade, in fact, the imperial court has opened a market division before, but the scale is smaller, and it also serves the tributary trade..."

"I know this, that's why I put forward this strategy, because the imperial court is not as strict as it was at the beginning of the founding of the country, and the resistance to such a reform will naturally be smaller..."Peng Yue said slowly.

"But today, the Holy Lord is very opposed to opening up the matter of trade..."Xia Yan lowered his head, as if he didn't want to mention something. Suddenly, as if he had made a lot of determination, he raised his head and stared at Peng Yue and said, "There is a big reason why the emperor is so disgusted with this trade and trade, that is... In the second year of Jiajing, in order to compete for trade privileges, the tribute envoys of the Ouchi clan and the tribute envoys of the Hosokawa clan fought in Ningbo Port, burned our merchant ships, and killed our officials, so the emperor was furious and closed down the city ship division.

Peng Yue realized when he heard this, it turned out that the culprit of this matter was Xia Yan, no wonder when he first told him, he always prevaricated, it turned out that it was not just because he hated eunuchs. If you really want to advocate open trade, and let Xia Yan support it, isn't it obvious that Xia Yan will slap himself in the face?

"But... Lord Xia, the misfortune didn't start with the city..."Peng Yue couldn't help but be a little annoyed by Xia Yan's original approach, but it was not good to attack on the surface.

"I also slowly learned this, at the beginning... It's true that I was reckless..."Xia Yan's voice was a little low, "At first, I thought that if the city was closed, the rebellion would naturally subside. However, after the closure of the city, not only did the rebellion not subside, but now it is becoming more and more intense, and I have to reflect on this matter now..."

"It seems that the ancients couldn't see through this kind of thing, although the Xia Yan in front of him was all transparent in the struggle between the government and the people, but he was also the same as ordinary people about this kind of thing, and he didn't understand all this..."

"Actually... Lord Xia, a large part of the reason for the formation of this rebellion is the sea ban. If we can give them the right to trade and trade, they won't be able to come here to rob things..."Although Peng Yue knew that the Japanese rebellion was not entirely caused by the sea ban, he believed that the Japanese rebellion had a lot to do with the sea ban.

"Is that really the case?" Xia Yan's tone still had some doubts in it.

"That's true, didn't you just say that the last weapon fight incident in the Wa Kingdom was also for trade privileges?" At this time, Peng Yue put on the attitude of a professor giving a lecture to himself at that time, and explained to Xia Yan the various chaos in Japan at this time and the thirst for China's trade privileges.

"This will be even more difficult..."Xia Yan frowned, looking pensive, "The Wa Kingdom is in civil strife at this time, if we trade with them, it is difficult to guarantee that similar vicious incidents will not happen again..."

"But we can't waste food because of choking..."Peng Yue couldn't help but feel a little anxious when he heard Xia Yan say this, "You must know that the trade demand of the Japanese countries is huge, if we can trade with them, the profits will be huge..."

"How much profit can a small country have!" Xia Yan's tone was a little contemptuous, "Besides, the Japanese people are treacherous, and they have asked for a lot of benefits when they implemented tributary trade during the Chengzu period, and they also took this opportunity to sell katana swords in the capital, which is really ridiculous." ”

"This..."Peng Yue couldn't help but want to laugh when he heard this. He had a bad opinion of the Japanese, but now he had to be sensible when it came to opening up for trade.

"And the emperor will definitely not agree..."Xia Yan's attitude on this matter seemed to be very resolute, "The tribute dispute in the second year of Jiajing originally made the emperor quite disgusted with the Japanese people, and now the southeast coast is in turmoil... You also know that the emperor was originally... He won't forgive this kind of thing, so if you want to open your mouth to trade, you have to think about it, this is my advice to you..."

"Lord Xie Xia, I have made a note of this." Peng Yue nodded, thinking about this matter in his heart. However, Peng Yue saw that Xia Yan had begun to give himself advice, maybe now Xia Yan had been persuaded by himself.

"In fact, at that time, I was really disgusted with the Japanese rebellion, so when Zhang Fujing was in power, I investigated the city and wanted to completely solve the matter and close down the only remaining city and port in Guangdong. Unexpectedly, after digging deeper, I found many problems. And seeing that the stricter the sea ban, the worse this chaos becomes... Actually, I also have the intention of reforming this matter now, but I originally proposed... If you reform now, it will be tantamount to opposing your previous measures, and it will always be unpleasant on the face... Of course, the most important thing is because I found that there are many interests involved, and it is very troublesome to solve. There is nothing that can be done, and now that you have brought it up and done it properly, it is even better. You can ask the emperor to play, although I can't say it openly, I will help you secretly..."Xia Yan said all the thoughts in his heart in one breath.

When Peng Yue heard Xia Yan say this, he couldn't help but feel even happier. Is it true that the higher a person's position, the more he cares about his face? However, at this time, he also admired Xia Yan a little, because according to this view, Xia Yan was clearly opposed to trade at the beginning. But now that he knows the reason, he also reflects on the original initiative. Such a spirit of knowing mistakes and being able to change them is not something that everyone can have, and Xia Yan is a very good minister at this time, and it is really commendable to be like this.

"But when it comes to abolishing the sea ban, you must take your time and not rush it." Xia Yan reminded again on the side, "There should be a lot of resistance in this matter..."

"I'll pay attention..."Peng Yue responded, thinking in his heart.

He suddenly felt that Xia Yan's attitude was a little inconsistent, and Xia Yan had tried his best to shirk this matter at the beginning, and he almost expressed his clear opposition. But now he said that he also has the intention of reform at this time. In the end, which of his words was true and which was false, Peng Yue felt that he was about to lose sight. Could it be that the officialdom has been immersed in lewd for a long time, and the relationship between himself and Xia Yan has to be figured out in every way when he speaks? At this moment, he found that many times talking to Xia Yan about things was like a heavy burden, Peng Yue suddenly felt that his heart was so tired, and the most terrifying thing was that he didn't even know what he was so tired for.

Notes: 1. Municipal Shipping Division: It was established in the Song, Yuan and Ming dynasties, and was essentially an official government established in each seaport to manage maritime foreign trade, which is equivalent to the current customs.

2. The Ming Dynasty's Shibo Division was mainly to manage the tributary and trade affairs of overseas countries, and many of them were abolished. In the Ming Dynasty, the existence of the city represented that the state also allowed tributary trade with overseas countries, and the abolition meant that the state did not allow tributary trade with overseas countries.