090 Demarcation of borders

After a day of deliberation, when Alfonso attended the negotiation meeting again, he said to Zheng He: "Mr. Minister, I think that the southern boundary proposed by your side has been approved by us. Pen %Fun %Pavilion www.biquge.info"

At this time, there was no instant communication ability in later generations, such as territorial boundary negotiations, and the king had to delegate to his ministers and set his own bottom line. Negotiators will try to get as much land as they can for their own country.

This was not the first time Alfonso had participated in such negotiations, as he had also participated in peace talks after the end of the Seven Years' War, although Spain had been a loser at the time. It's just that Alfonso doesn't feel much better now than it was then. He was in the territory of the Tang people, and the Tang people had geographical advantages, and it was difficult for Spain to engage in any large-scale and high-intensity wars because of these desolate lands. Alfonso wanted to try as hard as he could, but he didn't feel like he could get too many, as Spain had no cards.

Zheng He clapped his hands and smiled: "This is really excellent. ”

Alfonso continued: "Then we have already determined the south and the east, now let me determine the north. ”

Zheng He smiled slightly and said, "The vast area from Jiazhou to the north, and even the Rocky Mountain Range in the east, is desolate, and no civilized country has established actual control over those places so far. It would take centuries to colonize this area. Neither the Tang Dynasty nor Spain is temporarily unable to penetrate into these areas, and there are also British, French and even Tsarist Russians eyeing this land, and it is obviously nonsense for our two countries to determine the border here by talking to themselves, because even if the negotiations are reached, no one will admit it except for the Tang Dynasty and Spain, and only actual control can bring strong sovereignty claims. Therefore, with regard to the northern border, we believe that there is no need to demarcate the border for the time being, and in terms of sovereignty, we maintain that the uncolonized areas are blank areas. But I can also be honest with you that we know all about the West Coast and will be colonizing further north as well. Datang also does not welcome any country to set up colonies on the west coast of North America, once we find colonial ships or expedition ships with bad intentions, or find that there are missionaries and colonial villages on land, we will destroy them mercilessly. ”

Alfonso was stunned for a moment, and Heseta beside him was already excited, and said: "You guys are naked coercion, what Spain wants to do, you don't need others to teach you." ”

Next to Zheng He sat the naval commander Deng Xiyi, who looked indifferent with a cold face, and said, "Then we will fight until you know what to do." ”

Alfonso was not as excited as Hesetta, California has been occupied by the Tang Republic, and it is impossible to cross Jiazhou and colonize in the northwest region, on the one hand, Spain does not have enough strength to carry out such colonization, on the other hand, the risks are too great, and the Tang people will not tolerate being surrounded by Spain in the north and south. They have enough military strength, and they have such a national character to be able to purge the north, and Alfonso believes that what Deng Xiyi said is by no means intimidating.

Zheng He spoke again: "Of course, Datang welcomes Spanish merchant ships to Datang for trade and other activities, the Northwest Territory is open to all countries, and Spain wants to carry out fur trade with the local aborigines, and Datang has no intention of stopping it." After the establishment of the Tang Colony in the northwest, we also welcomed Spanish friends to trade and travel here. ”

This is an obviously somewhat inconsistent statement, Zheng He clearly said that the Spanish colonial ships and expedition ships that were seen by the Tang Dynasty to the north would be intercepted, but he also said that the Spaniards were welcome to do business there. The only explanation is that Spanish merchant ships, subject to permission, were allowed to carry out a limited number of activities on the west coast, and of course such activities had to depend on the faces of the Tang people.

The Spaniards were less interested in the fur trade, and were more interested in gold and silver minerals from Mexico and the South American colonies, as well as the output of some plantations.

Alfonso understood very well that the Tang used a very clever method, and if the Tang said that all the land from the back to the Arctic Ocean belonged to the Tang Dynasty, then it was obvious that Alfonso would not have signed such an agreement. But the Don said that the northern land has no sovereignty and anyone can go, then Spain will accept it. But what is not written on paper is that the Tang would prevent any attempt to colonize the west coast of North America and the interior of the country.

In this way, the Tang Republic obtained the land west of the Colorado River, and the northern border was uncertain, which was actually a bit beyond Alfonso's psychological capacity. The Colorado River extends to the northeast, and if you really want to count from the source to the mouth of the sea, then the Tang Republic is equivalent to getting the whole of California, Nevada, more than half of Utah, and a quarter of Colorado in the United States. That's more than 800,000 square kilometers of land, equivalent to the combined size of the British mainland (including Ireland) and the French mainland.

Of course, in the more than 800,000 square kilometers of land, there is also a part of the land in Jiazhou that is relatively flat, suitable for agriculture and extremely suitable for human habitation. The inland areas are basically high mountains, basins and plateaus, and even the later United States is relatively sparsely populated. Of course, the majestic Rocky Mountains are rich in mineral resources, including silver in Nevada and copper in Utah. Moreover, these areas are suitable for the development of animal husbandry, which can provide Datang with abundant meat, eggs, milk and non-staple foods.

In fact, the bottom line of negotiations set by King Carlos III of Spain is also relatively vague, first of all, one is that it can no longer retreat from the colonies that Spain has established, such as the colonies of New Mexico (in fact, Arizona and New Mexico include some surrounding areas of other states), such as the colonies of Baja California, and the other is that the Tang Dynasty cannot expand its territory without restrictions.

Carlos III was a relatively capable and intelligent king, and he knew that if the Tang Dynasty was really a military power, and in such a "remote" position, Spain would not be able to limit any expansion of the Tang Dynasty on the West Coast. Carlos III himself did not think that Alfonso would be able to control the Tang Dynasty and let them hold the land of Nanjia and the Central Basin in peace, and no longer claim other territories.

Of course, what His Majesty the King can't tolerate the most is that the Tang Dynasty has empty white teeth and extends its territory to the Arctic Ocean in one go. Obviously, the Tang people did this, but the scaring element was greater, and in the end, the boundary was undecided.

Alfonso secretly thought: "Although there is no boundary in the north, Datang admits that the area that he has not colonized is not his own territory, so in fact, only the useless mountain area of Rocky Mountain is actually assigned to Datang." Although this area is not small, it was originally something unplanned, and it can be regarded as controlling the Tang Dynasty's sphere of influence. Moreover, Spain is not without the opportunity to develop into a more sub-regional. We took over Indiana from the French, and we could also develop north by land, although the land route was more difficult, but the power of the Tang people was mainly concentrated on the coast, and could not extend into the interior, and when we could really control the inland area, the Tang people did not have much to do. ”

This quite capable courtier thought again: "There is no doubt that the strength of the Tang people comes from the level of science and technology, they must have mastered a lot of technology that Europeans do not understand, so that they can make more powerful muskets and warships, first stabilize the Tang Dynasty, trade with this country, infiltrate into this country, if it is possible to send students to learn their culture and technology, if these achievements can be used in Spain, then the Tang Dynasty is a small country with a population of only more than 100,000, there is no need to worry at all." ”

As his thoughts diverged, like a surging flood, Alfonso thought again: "According to intelligence, China is now a dynasty founded by the Tatars, and the Tang people are obviously dissatisfied with the Tatar rule and have emigrated. So if you think of a way that can sabotage the migration they brought from China, it will limit the development of the country very well. Maybe they can bring immigrants from Southeast Asia, Japan, etc., but their own civilization will be diluted by these alien races, and it may even break out****, which would be even better. ”

Alfonso thought of this, and immediately felt a lot happier, he had decided to sign this agreement, formally determine the border with the Tang Dynasty, and when he returned to Spain, he would suggest that Carlos III let the Philippine officials find some ways to drive a wedge between the Qing and Tang States, so that the Qing State was dissatisfied with the Tang State and even hostile, making it difficult for the Tang State to obtain immigrants. Of course, it is unlikely that the entry of migrants will be completely cut off, but at least it will be a serious blow to the Tang State.

In his mind, this is a plan that will take about five to ten years to complete, and once the plan is realized, then the development of Datang will be severely limited, and Spain will get more time to pretend to befriend the country and gain more technology and knowledge.

It's just that he never thought that the Tang Republic that crossed over would do everything extremely quickly, they had faster transportation, faster information transmission, and even more efficiency, and maybe in just a few years in the next few years, they would lead a huge event in East Asia to completely tip the scales in their own direction.

Next, Alfonso and Zheng He discussed trade and exchanges. The Tang Dynasty proposed to open its ports to Spain, welcomed Spanish merchant ships to trade, and at the same time asked Spain to open its own and its colonies' ports to Tang merchants, and the two sides set a relatively low tariff limit. It seems to be very equal, and Tang is small and Spain is large, but considering Tang's manufacturing capacity and raw material demand, such a reciprocal free trade is actually more cost-effective for Datang.