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First, about Chen Gong

Zhao Rui: "Yuan Benchu looked at Heshuo; Liu Jingsheng rose to Jingzhou; Ma Chao, Han Sui, Xiong is based in Kansai; Lu Bu and Chen Gong stole their lives from Eastern Xia; Liaohe Haidai, more than ten princes, all blocked millions of soldiers, thousands of iron horses, and established diplomatic relations, which was a masterpiece for a while. ”

Comment: Yuan Shao, Liu Biao has no strategists? Yes, because that's the counselor! Zhao Rui mentioned Lu Bu and Chen Gong together, and Ma Chao and Han Sui mentioned it together, what does it mean? It can be seen that Zhao Rui thinks that Lu Bu and Chen Gong are the relationship between the eldest and the second, not the relationship between the master and his subordinates.

In 192, Chen Gong said to Cao Cao: ...... This overlord industry also!

Comment: This sentence shows that Chen Gong has never wanted to be a good strategist.

In 194, Chen Gong said to Zhang Miao: ...... Lu Bu is a strong man, good at fighting, if the right to welcome him, he will herd Yanzhou together and observe the situation in the world......

Comment: What is "right" to welcome it, but also to "co" herd, it can be seen that Lu Bu is only cooperating with Chen Gong, Zhang Miao, etc., and is even used!

Just he is a Chen Palace, jumping out every day, thinking about others, for the sake of Cao Cao, seeing that Cao Cao does not sell the scholar's account, dare to kill Bian Rang, where can he kill him Chen Gong! So in a blink of an eye, he flickered Zhang Miao again, wanting to help him "watch the world". One time doesn't explain anything, and twice, in one sentence, "Nothing to be courteous, either a traitor or a thief." ”

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Let's talk about the three times that Chen Gong was disloyal to Lu Bu

Let's start with a romance, although I don't know if there is such a thing, but I don't think it will be groundless.

In the eleventh episode of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Cao Cao returned to the army to save Yanzhou, and Lu Bu was ready to use Xue Lan and Li Feng to stick to Yanzhou, and he "stationed troops in Puyang to become a full force". Chen Gong objected, thinking that "Xue Lan must defend Yanzhou, one hundred and eighty miles south, the road to Mount Tai is dangerous, and ten thousand soldiers can be ambushed." When Cao Bing heard that Yanzhou was lost, he would inevitably double his way, and when he was more than halfway through, he could be captured with one blow. ”

Comment: Chen Gong is so good, why don't you bring your own army to ambush? And Xue Lan can't guard Juye, can't Chen Gong just guard it?

Don't say that Chen Gong has no soldiers, and he doesn't lead the army alone. Evidence: Referring to the records about Cheng Yu,......, the surrender of the army, saying that Chen Gong wanted to take Dong'a by himself,......, Cheng Yu said to Jin Yun: "...... Fubu, rough and young, rigid and rude, the male ear of the husband. The palace and others are pretending to be together, and they can't be together. Although there are many soldiers, they will not succeed in the end. ”

Comment: Even Cheng Yu knows that Chen Gong is a "fake" match for Lu Bu, and he can't "match" the king. There is also "self-generals take Dong'e", which shows that Chen Gong has its own troops, and if you want to fight Dong'e, Dong'e can't be directly defeated, but you have to spare the north bank of the Yellow River, cross the Yellow River from Wuyang, Chen Gong's hometown, and then cross the Yellow River Cangtingjin to attack Dong'e.

The Legend of the Three Kingdoms Cheng Yu: Yu sent farewell to the Absolute Cang Tingjin, Chen Gongzhi, and was not allowed to cross. Yu to Dong'a, Dong'a Ling Zao has only led the people to resist the city and hold on. Yanzhou also engaged in the conspiracy between Xue Yi and Yu, and died in the three cities to wait for Taizu.

This piece of information shows that Chen Gong failed to defeat Dong'e, and it is not as good as Cheng Yu. Later, Dongwuyang was lost to Zang Hong, and Zang Hong held out for a year under the attack of Yuan Shao's army. Chen Gong is not as good as Zang Hong. Of course, there is no direct evidence of these two battles, only inference. But at least it shows that Chen Gong has soldiers, or his own soldiers!

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Then let's take a look at Chen Gong's plan, which was not adopted by Lu Bu, why, it is clear at a glance. Chen Gong is simply using Lu Bu, and when he runs out, he will get rid of Lu Bu.

The three rebellions against Lü Bu are as follows

The first time: Bu general Xue Lan, Li Fengtun Juye, Taizu attacked, Bu rescued Lan, Lan was defeated, Bu left, then beheaded Lan, etc. "Romance of the Three Kingdoms: Emperor Wu Ji" can be understood by looking at the above romance, why didn't Lu Bu listen to Chen Gong's words, why did he say: "Wutun Puyang, don't have a good plan, you know it." ”

The second time: In June 196, Hao Meng rebelled ,......,against Lu Bu and asked Cao Xing about the origin of the matter, and Cao Xing replied: "Hao Meng was instigated by Yuan Shu to rebel. Lu Bu asked again: "Who are the accomplices?" Cao Xuan replied that Chen Gong was an accomplice, and at that time, Chen Gong was sitting next to Lu Bu and narrating, his face was red, and everyone else noticed it. Lu Bu did not pursue it because Chen Gong was a general.

The third time: In 198, Chen Gong said: "Cao Gong came from afar, and he couldn't last long." If the general rode out of the tun on foot, for the outside, the palace will keep the rest of the people inside, if to the general, the palace to lead troops and attack its back, if it comes to attack the city, the general will save the outside. However, in the tenth day, the military food will be exhausted, and it can be broken. ”

Comment: When Chen Gong was in Yanzhou, he asked Lu Bu to ambush Cao Cao in the mountains, was Cao Cao so easy to fight? Obviously, he wants the two tigers to compete, reap the profits by himself, and want to guard Puyang. When Chen Gong was in Xiapi, he asked Lu Bu to lead troops to garrison outside the city, and he sat in Xiapi.

Even Lu Bu's wife can see that as long as Pi comes out this time, Chen Gong will be the boss, even if Chen Gong will not oppose Lu Bu for the time being, there is another reason, who is in the city at this time?

Chen Ji, Chen Qun's father and son, Chen Yu, and Chen Deng's three younger brothers. These people are not simple, Xiapi is the territory of the Chen family. Think about the fact that as soon as Puyang came out, Puyang Tian's family closed the door, and the anti-Lu Bu incident can be understood.

After all, Chen Gong is surnamed Chen, if he is lucky enough to get a profit, of course it is good, if he loses, the Chen family will not want Chen Gong's life, even Cao Cao has to look at Chen's face, and he doesn't want to kill Chen Gong, not because he likes how talented Chen Gong is. But how can Chen Gong's pretentious person still have the face to live? Even if he wanted to live, Chen Gong knew that Cao Cao would not believe in him, Chen Gong was disloyal to Cao Cao, disloyal to Lu Bu, and even disunited with the Chen family. It's better to die, leave a name in history, wash away your infidelity, and let your family be taken care of by Cao Cao.

The palace said: "Disloyal to the minister, unfilial to the son, and self-divided."

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Is Chen Gong smart?

In the twelfth chapter of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Cao Cao's lie was burned to death, luring Lu Bu to attack, and Lu Bu failed. -- Chen Gong failed to see through this plan.

In the eleventh chapter of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Cao Bing is near, and Chen Gong offers a plan, "Today, Cao Bing is tired from afar, and it is good to fight quickly, and you can't develop strength." -- Not adopted by Lu Bu, Lu Bu defeated Cao Cao in his own way.

In the twelfth chapter of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Cao Cao came to attack Dingtao and used a suspicious military strategy, and Lu Bu reported to Chen Gong, actually asking Chen Gong's opinion. "Gong said: 'Do a lot of tricks, don't underestimate the enemy.' Bu said: 'I attack with fire, but I can break the ambush.' -- Chen Gong failed to see through this plan, and lost the last base of Dingtao.

Comment: Is Chen Gong just Zhichi? If it sounds good, it is wise, and if it doesn't sound good, it is an afterthought, hindsight!

In the fifteenth chapter of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", because Yuan Shu was untrustworthy, Lu Bu "wanted to start an army." Chen Gong said: "No, according to Shouchun, there are many soldiers and a wide range of food, and you can't underestimate the enemy." It's better to ask Xuande to return Xiaopei and make wings for me.

Comment: Don't you understand the long-distance and close-range attack? robbed Liu Bei Xuzhou, and he still trusts Liu Bei so much that he won't hold a grudge? Let the enemy be the "wings"? Chen Gong has a good plan, obviously he doesn't want Lu Bu's family to be dominant, and he wants to muddy the water and profit from it.

In the sixteenth chapter of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Yuan Shu was preparing to attack Liu Bei, and first gave Lu Bu "Su 200,000 Hu", hoping that he would not help Liu Bei. Lu Bu and Chen Gong discussed and formed the following conclusion: "Xuandetun Army Xiaopei may not be able to harm me

Comment: Well, I don't even want 200,000 stone millet, for what? Zang Hong guarded Dongwuyang for a year! Zhang Chao guarded Yongqiu for four months!. If he forms an alliance with Yuan Shu, is Yuan Shu such an arrogant person who grabs land everywhere? I can't understand who Yuan Shu is? With so much food, plus Lu Bu can't keep Xiapi for a year? Chen Gong, how can you say it?

In the sixteenth chapter of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Yuan Shu used the strategy of "intimacy", and Chen Gong saw through it. "Chen Gong actually went to visit Han Yin in the pavilion", "Gong Nai retreated left and right, and said to Yin: 'Who offered a plan to let Yuan Gong marry Feng Xian?' Is it intended to take Liu Xuande's head? ”

Comment: Chen Gong has seen through it, and he still wants to protect Liu Bei like this? And then Pit Lu Bu? What is the bad of marriage for Lu Bu, what use can Lu Bu's thousands of soldiers and four hundred horses do? Who does not rely on Yuan Shu? Another point, didn't Chen Gong conspire with Yuan Shu to oppose Lu Bu, why did he sabotage Yuan Shu's plan?

In the nineteenth chapter of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", "Gong said: 'I have heard that the army has little food recently, and I will send someone to Xu Capital to get it, and it will come sooner or later. The general can lead the elite soldiers to cut off his food routes. It's a great plan. 'Bu Ranqi's words. ”

Comment: It's the third time, Chen Gong, and the third time I want to use Lu Bu as a gunman, is he the master? Could it be that Chen Gong just wants his master to fight the world outside every day and sit at home by himself? Or think that only relying on Lu Bu's martial arts can be invincible, so every battle requires Lu Bu to go outside to fight, and send a few people to die, Zhang Liao, Gao Shun, which one will not work, no more, personally lead a soldier to help the master? Do you think that fighting a war is to look at the generals, not to look at the strategy, and not to look at the use of soldiers?

In the seventeenth chapter of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", when Yuan Shu came to attack Lu Bu, the Seven Route Army came, and Lu Bu convened all the strategists to discuss, "Chen Gong and Chen Qi father and son are together. Chen Gong said: "The disaster in Xuzhou was caused by Chen Qi's father and son, and the court flattered the court in order to seek the lord's fortune, and today the disaster is transferred to the general." The heads of the two can be cut off to offer Yuan Shu, and their troops will retreat. Bu listened to his words and ordered Chen Qi and Chen Deng to be captured. Chen Deng laughed and said: "What a cowardice, I look at the soldiers of the seven roads, like seven piles of rotten grass, how do you mind!" He said, "If you have a plan to destroy the enemy, you will be spared the death penalty." Chen Deng really used a trick to break the seven-way army.

Comment: Chen Gong, why can't you break the Seventh Route Army? Wisdom is late?

In the romance, it is said that Chen Qi and Chen Deng are father and son, but in fact, at this time, there are Chen Ji and Chen Qun's father and son in Xiapi, as well as Chen Qi's brother, Chen Deng's uncle Chen Yu, etc., all in Xiapi City. Why did Yuan Shu defeat Pi Lu Bu, there are no more than several reasons, when Tao Qian died, someone recommended Yuan Shu to lead Xuzhou, which was destroyed by the Chen family. Yuan Shu wanted to beat Liu Bei and was destroyed by the Chen family. wanted to marry Lu Bu, which was destroyed, and also led to the killing of Han Yin, the messenger of Yuan Shu. The most important thing is that Chen Yu, Yuan Shu's most hated enemy, is at Lu Bu's place. There is also an enemy Chen Ji, of course, Chen Ji is just guessing. As for who Chen Yu is, it will be introduced below.

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Huangshan: "The palace is not a cloth to say, but also to summarize what was said in the past. To make Bu Zi ride out of the camp on foot, Bu tasted more than 1,000 horsemen out of the battle and was defeated. How can he say anything! ”

Second, about Chen Yu

Chen Yu, Chen Deng's uncle.

Yuan Shu trusts the Chen family very much and thinks that it is his own family.

Chen Wen died of illness, and after Yuan Yu was killed, Yuan Shu used Chen Yu for Yangzhou. Yu Zi Gongwei, Xiapi people. Yu both led the state, and the technique was defeated in Fengqiu, and the south to Shouchun, Yu refused to accept the technique. The technique of retreating to protect the Yin Tomb, and the army attacked Yu, and Yu was afraid to return to Xiapi.

Comment: After Chen Wen died of illness, Yuan Shao appointed Yuan Yu as the Yangzhou Assassin History, Yuan Shu raised troops to beat Yuan Yu away, and then let the most trusted Chen Yu be the Yangzhou Assassin History, Shou Chun, as a result, after the defeat of Yuan Shu Kuangting Battle, he wanted to enter Shouchun, but Chen Yu was ungrateful and did not let Yuan Shu enter the city, and later saw that Yuan Shu was going to attack the city, so he fled back to his hometown of Bupi, where there were his relatives Chen Deng, etc.

Chen and Yuan Shu have since formed a feud.

Three, about Chen Ji, Chen Qun, Chen Wen

(A.D. 194), Liu Bei was the assassin of Yuzhou, and Chen Qun was the other driver.

In 198 AD), Lü Bu was broken by Cao Cao, and Chen Qun's father and son were also in Lü Bu's army, and they all worshipped Cao Cao.

In the fourth year of Jian'an (199 AD), Chen Ji died, and Chen Qun resigned.

Chen Qun died in 237.

Chen Tai (?-260), the name Xuanbo, was a famous general of Wei during the Three Kingdoms period, and the son of Sikong Chen Qun.

Chen Ji (129-June 199), one said that he died after 196.

Chen Ji, the general of Yuan Shu in the late Eastern Han Dynasty, led an army when Yuan Shu was attacking Xuzhou and the Seventh Army. However, Yuan Shujun was unfortunately defeated, and he was also arrested by Cao Cao's army in Shouchun, and Li Feng, Le Zhuo, and Liang Gang were beheaded.

In 197, Yuan Shu was called emperor. In autumn and September, the Shujun army invaded Chenliu. Cao Cao personally came to resist, and Yuan Shu retreated, leaving Qiao Rui, Li Feng, Liang Gang, and Le to wait

In the romance, Chen Ji and Li Feng were killed in September 197.

Comment: Who wrote the Romance of the Three Kingdoms? Chen Shou! It's also surnamed Chen!! So I don't believe him very much, in the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms, Chen Shou actually wrote ominous about several celebrities in his Chen family, and only wrote the good side, which made people suspicious.

Whether Yuan Shu's subordinate Chen Ji is Chen Qun's father or not, the year of their death is very consistent. No one has been able to prove it, but there are a few doubts.

Isn't Chen Qun from Yingchuan, why did he run down Pi in 194? And his dad is gone, right? In 198, the Chen Qun father and son that Cao Cao found in Xiapi were Chen Ji or Chen Tai?

Chen Qun is such a famous person, but he didn't know what year he was born? Chen Tai is such a famous person, and I don't know what year he was born? In the romance, Chen Ji, the general of Yuan Shu, did not have this person in the Three Kingdoms. Could it be that Chen Ji fled to Xiapi when Yuan Shu attacked Lu Bu in 197?

Chen Ji was one of Yuan Shu's seven-way army against Lu Bu.

Chen Wen, who was the assassin of Yangzhou, his son Chen Ying (fictitious) and his concubine Chen Zhi (fictitious relationship)

Third, about Chen Lan

Chen Lan was originally a military general under Yuan Shu. After Yuan Shu was defeated by Cao Cao, he went to Lishan to join Lei Bo and Chen Lan, but was rejected by the two.

Comment: In September 197, Yuan Shu used Chen Lan as one of the seven armies to attack Lu Bu and Cao Cao, and after the defeat, he returned to Yangzhou, and encountered a great drought and ****** in winter. Later, Yuan Shu couldn't go on, and wanted to go to Lishan to join his former subordinates Lei Bo and Chen Lan to find something to eat, but Lei Bo and Chen Lan refused to stay for three days, and the soldiers were starved of food, so they retreated to Jiangting. At that time, there were only 30 wheat crumbs in the army. In the middle of June, Yuan Shu wanted to quench his thirst with honey syrup, but there was no honey. After sighing for a long time, Nai Dazha said: "How could Yuan Shu come to this point!" In the end, he vomited blood and died.

Is Chen Lan still human, the people have starved to death so much, and they have robbed disaster relief food?!!! The old master is dying of hunger, so he begs for food and gives him some food, so ungrateful. It's nothing to turn on the master, but watching the old master starve to death?? The old master also reused Chen Lan as one of the Seven Route Army, but Chen Lan forgot about this reuse?

Fourth, about Chen Qi, Chen Deng, and Chen Jiao

Liu Bei, Xu Yan and Liu Biao discussed the people of the world together. When talking about Chen Deng, Xu Yan said disapprerovitically: "Chen Yuanlong is a man of the lake and the sea, and his arrogance is still there. ”

Chen Deng, the Taishou of Guangling, invited Chen Jiao to serve as the county gongcao, and instructed Chen Jiao to go to Xuchang, he pointed out: "The scribes in the Xudu area have some discussions, and they don't seem to have a good evaluation of me. ”

Comment: Chen Deng also knows that he has a bad reputation.

Lü Bu took Chen Deng's three younger brothers as hostages to sue for peace, but Chen Deng refused, but instead besieged Picheng more urgently.

Comment: Lu Bu just wanted to make peace, he didn't kill the Chen family, why did Chen Deng bother to revenge, did he have to force people to die? Is it difficult to be an official in the same dynasty?

When I saw Taizu, because of Chen Buyong, I had no plan, and it was easier to go, so it was better to plan it as soon as possible

Comment: Is Lu Bu lighter than going? Chen Deng himself, first from Tao Qian, then from Liu Bei, and then from Lu Bu, after Lu Bu was not defeated, he began to sell the master, do you know that you take people's money and people to eliminate disasters? If you don't like Lu Bu, don't follow Lu Bu? With the Chen family's background, can they die poor?

At the beginning, Buinden begged Xuzhou to pasture, returned it, Bu was angry, pulled out the halberd and slashed a few times: "Father Qing persuaded me to cooperate with Cao Gong and break off the marriage road; Today, I have nothing to ask for, and Qing's father and son are both important, and they are sold by Qing! Qing is my words, what do you say? "Deng is not moved, Xu Yuzhi said;" Deng saw Cao Gongyan and said: 'Treat the general as raising a tiger, he should be full of his meat, and if he is not full, he will devour people.' The public said: "It's better to say it." For example, if you raise an eagle, you will be hungry for use, and if you are full, you will be gone. So it was. "Buyi is understanding.

Comment: Who did Lu Bu kill the Chen family? Yuan Shu's hundreds of thousands of troops came to fight Lu Bu, and Lu Bu bet his treasure on the Chen family, and he didn't want to kill the Chen family!! Why did Chen Deng forget?

"For example, if you raise an eagle, you will use it if you are hungry, and if you are full, you will go away." Chen Deng knew that Lu Bu had never thought of being an emperor, Lu Bu had always wanted to follow the Han Dynasty, and he wanted to be an official when he looked for Cao Cao, although he didn't get an official, but he knew that Cao Cao regarded him as a tiger, not a dragon, Lu Bu was happy, thinking that Cao Cao believed in himself and would definitely reuse himself. Just based on this understanding, there is no one to blame Chen Deng for being disloyal, in order to prove that he wants to follow Cao Cao, Lu Bu cooperated with Cao Cao to fight against Yuan Shu, who dared to oppose the Han Dynasty, and the result?

If it weren't for Chen Deng, Cao Cao would have won Lu Bu, the world would have been unified, Cao Cao would be the emperor, and Lu Bu would be the king, what a good thing. But there is nothing to do with Chen Deng like this, are you unwilling? Chen Deng is dedicated to Cao Cao? Dedicated to the people of the world? Not necessarily, but just yourself.

Later, Cao Cao saw this, and was afraid that Chen Deng would grow stronger, so he removed Chen Deng's Guangling Taishou and transferred him to the court as an official.