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The depictions of war in "Heroes of Mountains and Rivers" are basically "won by outwitting", which is undoubtedly much better than the naïve war depictions such as "weapon-only theory", "force-only theory", "will-only theory", and "morale-only theory" in other similar works. Pen | fun | pavilion www. biquge。 There are three points of info integrity defects:
1. The establishment and development of intelligence departments are not highlighted;
2. The enemy's changes and unpredictable variables in the course of the war are not well described;
3. Strategic planning is that there is no backup plan (plan B) and crisis response plan.
Without these three points, and the course of the war without exception evolves according to the plan conceived by the protagonist and makes the protagonist win, I can only feel that Xu Ruyu is "wise and close to demons, and good at calculating almost gods".
Analysis of specific battle examples:
1. The Battle of the East China Sea had a long war cycle, many battles, complex relations between forces, and a huge number of troops invested in combat. The key point that affects the development of the war situation is to deeply integrate the way of the art of war, "the first army to attack and strategize, the second to attack the enemy, and the next to attack the city". Rated as a magnificent battle, it scored 90 points.
2. The battle of Shangnan, although there is almost no sword and blood, is still tense and fierce. Using the contradictions and conflicts of interest between multiple forces to resolve the crisis, using visible commercial interests and strategic interests to trade, at the negotiation table, the so-called fate only depends on the weight of the "weight" you have, and feelings and hatred must all stand aside in the face of interests. Rated as a vertical and horizontal battle, it scored 90 points.
3. The Qingjiang water war, whether it is for the Liyang water camp or the Qingjiang water bandits, the disparity in strength is unquestionable. Twice in a row, Xu Ruyu made a big swing in the "empty city plan", and Xu Ruyu passed the test. However, there are unreasonable places in both cases, the first is the abnormal change of the enemy's general's performance, and the second is the enemy's lack of convincing ability to delay the timing of the attack, which can be changed slightly. Rated as a battle between fiction and reality, it scored 75 points.
4. The battle on the north bank of the Lishui River Valley, in this battle, except for the protagonist's side, the other two generals were extremely chaotic in terms of strategic objectives, strategic decisions and tactical arrangements, and contradictions emerged one after another, which had to make people suspect that the author forced the strategic goals of plot development on the characters, which led to the outcome of the battle that met the author's requirements. Rated as the Battle of the Black Whistle, 30 points. There is a completely redesigned course of combat, which seeks to stand in the position of the characters and solve the coordination and unification of strategic intentions, strategic decisions and tactical arrangements.
5. In addition to repeating the winning tactics of the "Battle of the East China Sea" and lacking novelty in the Battle of Yantan, the greater problem in this battle lies in the positioning of the enemy generals, and the excessively high background description and the excessively inferior actual performance form a huge contrast. Rated as a chicken rib battle, 50 points. There is a redesigned combat process, drawing on the typical examples of "guerrilla warfare" and "movement warfare", and striving to grasp the thinking of the enemy's commander-in-chief from the mentality and causing the enemy's wrong decisions by provoking him.
6. The Battle of the Dark Sun, this battle repeated the winning tactics of the "Battle of the East China Sea" for the third time, placing the protagonist (the leader of one side and the commander of the whole army) on the most dangerous front line for no reason and aimlessly. Moreover, the explanation of the strategic situation is not convincing, and it is inexplicable that a strategic point that has been overlooked has appeared. Rated as a vulgar battle, 30 points. There is a redesigned course of battles, borrowing from the "frog jumping tactics" and finding a strategic breakthrough in terms of contradictions of interests and internal conflicts from the characteristics of the enemy (alliance of thieves).
7. The Battle of Fuzhou, this battle is like chess, focusing on the enemy's strategic intentions, step by step, forcing the enemy to respond. Clever layout, confusing the enemy, inducing the enemy to disperse forces, our side was able to concentrate superior forces and quickly win a decisive victory on the local battlefield. However, in dealing with the problem of stopping the enemy's reinforcements and winning the victory, there is still a design that completely relies on the low-level mistakes of the enemy generals. Rated as a wrestling battle, 80 points. There is a redesigned local battle process, and the "variables" formed by the behavior of the enemy's low-level soldiers are gradually expanded, and the "inevitable" factors that exist in the accident replace the simple low-level mistakes of the enemy generals. *********
Sun Tzu's Art of War begins with a clear meaning: "Soldiers, the major affairs of the country, the place of death and life, and the way of survival, must not be ignored." "Throughout the 5,000-year history of human development, it is actually a history of human war.
In alternate historical novels, the description of war often occupies a considerable amount of space, especially if you want to overthrow the old rule and gain the authority to implement the author's concept of governance, it is even more wars and conquests. The quality of the depiction of war determines to a large extent the quality of an alternate history novel, as well as the degree of popularity.
Next, I will take the battle examples in the "Heroes of Mountains and Rivers" created by the more vulgar brother as the title, and analyze the author's advantages and disadvantages, gains and losses in the description of war and the design of war examples. Of course, adhering to the consistent style of 98, there are not many good words, and bricks are smashed. It is not only a commentary, but also a little discussion and reference for other readers who like to study military affairs, including the author.
The introduction, analysis and evaluation of the battle examples in the "Heroes of Mountains and Rivers" in this article are subject to the content before the "Battle of Fuzhou" in Volume 9, and if there are inaccuracies in the content and information of the subsequent chapters and materials in my comments, please understand.
On the whole, the war description in this book gives me a better feeling than most similar works, the war in this book is basically "won by intelligence", compared with the "weapon-only theory", "force-only theory", "will-only theory", "morale-only theory" in other similar works, the random appearance of childish war descriptions such as one enemy and a thousand to win a hundred is undoubtedly much better, but it does not mean that the war description in this book is impeccable.
First of all, let's talk about the overall flaws in the book's depiction of war.
First, even after Xu Ruyu established his own forces and armed forces, he still did not have a description of the establishment of the intelligence department and the establishment and development of the intelligence system, which is a big problem.
"The way of conquest, military intelligence first", without intelligence, what kind of strategy to talk about, what to talk about to win a thousand miles? Although I am very disgusted by the omnipotent, omniscient super intelligence system in some books. But without an intelligence system, it can only be said that it is even more unimaginable.
Second, the author's description of the war is too flat and straightforward, without ups and downs.
The flat and straightforward narrative here is not to say that the author did not conceive a clever plan and write the enemies as idiots. Rather, the course of the war in the book is always developing according to the predetermined plan of both sides, and the enemy is always executing according to the predetermined plan, without changing tactics in response to changes in the situation. In the course of the war, there is a lack of variables (or accidents) that often occur in actual wars, as well as the corresponding tactics and countermeasures of the protagonist's side, and they always continue to develop according to the protagonist's pre-planned plan until victory.
Third, when the author writes about the enemy, we and the enemy always formulate strategies according to a preconceived development model, and never make a second plan or backup plan.
This is also quite unreasonable, the ancients had a cloud: "more wins, less calculations do not win", and the cloud: "do not think about winning, first think about defeat". Those who worry about the winner will lose all the time despite a hundred victories, and those who worry about the defeat will be able to make a comeback even if they are defeated.
Why do both sides wishfully think that things will go their way, and never think about what to do if something happens?
Because of the existence of the above three problems, the result is that Xu Ruyu in the book predicts the enemy's battle plan with a single brain movement (instead of extracting and analyzing from detailed intelligence); frowned and thought about it, and immediately took it into account and planned a complete set of combat plans; The plan was so perfect that it took into account all the developments, and the whole development of the war was planned (because nothing happened), and the result was, of course, a great victory without exception.
This kind of description gives me the feeling that Xu Ruyu can only say that Xu Ruyu is "wise and close to a demon, and he is good at calculating almost a god".
Let's put aside the above shortcomings and analyze and evaluate the specific combat examples in the book one by one.
1. The Battle of the East China Sea
1. Brief description of the process:
The Puji bandit Gongliang Youqin planned behind his back, and used the puppet Baishi Xu Bodang in the Ming Department to conspire with Yongyang Mei Tiecao and Qingzhou Yi Zhouwu in the East China Sea, but the ultimate goal was to seize Yongyang (Tianxia Jianchengye).
Xu Ruyu analyzed the interests of all parties in the alliance after the war, and predicted the strategic intentions and main tactical means of Gongliang Youqin (driving the people of Siyi into Yongyang, and then trapping them), and took the lead in laying down grain reserves in Yongyang City.
Xu Ruyu sent a message to expose the conspiracy, so that the East China Sea could deploy in advance and avoid huge losses suffered by a sudden attack. But in terms of the big picture, the opportunity to break the game has yet to emerge.
Xu Ruyu trained troops in the East China Sea, reformed the military system, taught the battle formation (cavalry formation: Qinghe scattered star formation, infantry formation: Dayan several arrays), improved the combat effectiveness of the East China Sea army, and trained a strong army - Qingfeng Cavalry Battalion, repeatedly defeated the coalition army, and gradually introduced the war situation into the delicate situation designed by himself, the war entered the stalemate stage, and the first phase of the East China Sea War came to an end.
Xu Ruyu left a book for some reason, left the East China Sea, and entered the main battlefield of the next stage of the war - Yongyang City.
The situation developed as Xu Ruyu expected, and when the Yongyang army and the forces of the Xi tribe in the East China Sea fought under Tairu City to defeat both sides, they were attacked by the Baishi army, and only more than 10,000 of the 50,000 troops were defeated back to Yongyang; At the same time, the Yongyang naval army was also defeated by the Puji naval division, and the exiles of the four fields fled into the city one after another, and the 100,000 combined forces of Puji and Baishi trapped Yongyang City to death. The Qingzhou army dragged down the Eastern Navy to the death, making it impossible to rescue Yongyang, and it was only a matter of time before the city was broken.
Xu Ruyu's pre-stockpiled grain played a key role, stabilizing the hearts of the people in the city and delaying the time of the city's destruction.
Xu Ruyu went to Qingzhou and assassinated Yi Zhouwu, the lord of Qingzhou, as soon as Yi Zhouwu died, the Yi clan had no owner, and the Xiao Wall was chaotic, and he went to a strong enemy in front of him, and the East China Sea finally took a major turn for the better.
The grain and grass of the Puji and Baishi coalition armies gradually ran out, and Gongliang Youqin defrauded the food, and then used the retreat as bait to plot against the families in Yongyang City again, and assassinated Xu Ruyu; Xu Ruyu saw through this plan in advance, and planned to cheat to death, inducing Gongliang Friend Qin Bing to take the risk and take out all the hole cards to make a last fight. In the first bloody battle of Yongyang City, the Puji Army lost tens of thousands of elites, and the most elite Biaofeng battalion was also wiped out, and it still failed to capture Yongyang City.
When the Puji and Baishi coalition forces were exhausted and retreated, they suffered a surprise attack from the flank of the East China Sea elite cavalry, the whole army was scattered, and the East Korean Navy pursued and killed for hundreds of miles, and the Puji and Baishi coalition forces fled in a hurry.
At this point, the Battle of the East China Sea ended.
2. Analyze and review
From the beginning of the enemy's strategic deployment, this battle was quite atmospheric, with intermittent, rebellion, alliance, defection, raid, starvation, siege and other schemes, the design is quite wonderful, even if you guess the opponent's intentions and deployment, it is still difficult to solve this deadlock.
Some people may ask, why doesn't the enemy consider destroying the East China Sea first and then trying to Yongyang? I estimate that Yongyang is Yangzhou, and it is of much greater significance to occupy the entire territory of the East China Sea by taking control of the waterway from Yangzhou to the mouth of the Yangtze River, connecting the overseas Puji (Zhoushan Islands), Yongyang (Yangzhou), and Baishi (estimated to be the area of Xubang), taking Yue County (Zhejiang) in the south, Jiangjin in the west, and the East China Sea (northern Jiangsu) in the north. And Yongyang is a strong city in the world, once it gets a chance to breathe, it is difficult to try again, so starting from scratch, attacking the East China Sea is a bait.
Xu Ruyu's series of countermeasures in this battle were also quite exquisite, preparing food, and directly targeting the most poisonous point of Gongliangyouqin's plan, "drive the people of Siyi into Yongyang, and then trap them, and when their food is exhausted, the city will be in chaos." As a result, not only did the city not lack food, but it was replenished by troops from the people of Siyi who were driven into Yongyang, so that Yongyang persisted until the moment when the tide of the war turned around. This is a deep fit with the way of "going to the army and strategizing" in the art of war.
When there was no good way to break the enemy, Xu Ruyu's countermeasure was to hold the East China Sea steadily, delay time, and treat the enemy with his own unchanged.
When the battle situation turned to the situation envisioned by Xu, Xu Ruyu's clever trick was to assassinate Yi: first try to make Qingzhou change generals, transfer the brave and resourceful eldest son Yi Hanwen to the front line to control the army, and let the poor second son Yi Chongwu return to Qingzhou. After the assassination of Yi, Yi Chongwu ascended the throne, Yi Hanwen supported the army and respected himself, the brothers fenced the wall, and the alliance was self-defeating. This is in line with the way of "secondary fighting" in the art of war.
As soon as the alliance was dissolved, Gongliang Youqin had already fallen into a strategic passive situation, either retreating from the army, or he could only take risks and fight to the death. Gongliang Youqin used the strategy of rebellion and assassination, but it was just the last struggle, and the result was that Xu Ruyu was calculated, and Gongliang Youqin almost ended up with the annihilation of the entire army, and the 80,000 army was wiped out.
3. Pick thorns
This battle is the first battle in the book, and it is estimated that the author has carefully scrutinized and designed it in advance, and it is difficult to find problems. The only problem is that Jiang Lingtian has stored 500,000 stone of grain in Yongyang, why was it not discovered by the other party? Yin Weixiu, the heavy general of Baishi, once entered Yongyang in person, and it is naturally impossible for the Puji and Baishi coalition forces to have no spies in the city, so why don't they know anything about it? Even if the Su Gang hid the grain outside the city first, the big deal of 500,000 stone may also be seen from the fluctuation of grain prices in the market, why would a shrewd person like a good friend turn a blind eye? After all, food is one of the core links in the entire strategic deployment, and there is zero chance of being ignored.
I think it's a bit of a problem, but I can't think of any good way to make up for it.
4. General Comment: The Magnificent Battle - 90 points
2. The Battle of Shangnan
1. Brief description of the process:
Xu Ru foolishly went to Shangnan and found that the Xiangfan congregation, which had an old relationship with him (he gave a great help when he was assassinated), was hiding in the Funiu Mountain, and was in a very difficult situation and would be destroyed. Xu Ruyu decided to help the Xiangfan congregation escape from danger.
Shangnan has a special geographical location, and its commercial value and strategic value are extremely important. None of the major forces dared to occupy it easily, and it was tacitly accepted that this place would become a place jointly managed by the major forces.
Mingli**, the identity of the horse gang that secretly belongs to the Xiangfan Society is gradually exposed, and the Xun family, who controls the area of southern Henan and has a deep enmity with Xiangfan, plans to take the opportunity of strangling the horse gang and the Xiangfan Association to send troops to Shangnan and occupy this strategic place.
Xu Ruyu skillfully took advantage of the situation, led the Ma Gang to flee from Nanyang at their own risk, slowly retreated into Shangnan, and revealed the news that the Xun family wanted to monopolize Shangnan, causing the other major forces in Shangnan to join hands and dispatch troops to prevent the Xun family from dominating Shangnan, and successfully resolved the crisis faced by the Ma Gang and Xiangfan Society.
Xu Ruyu launched the plan to open up the "Shangnan Trade Road", in which Yongyang's support was the key, and Xu deliberately transferred 200 soldiers from Yongyang to show his actual control over Yongyang. Due to the huge economic interests and strategic value of Shangnan Tradeway, all parties gave up confrontation and actively participated in the negotiation of the distribution of interests. The Fenyang Xun family also quickly changed their stance and gave up their plot against Shangnan and the strangulation of Xiangfanhui.
In the entire transaction, only the Zhang Dong remnants, who threatened the safety of the trade route, were completely betrayed and would be wiped out by the joint efforts of various families. Zhang Dong's widow is the enemy of Xu Ruyu's father, Wu Chu, the original ally of the Xun family, occupies the main trade routes, and makes a living by raiding and plundering the Quartet. Xu Ruyu avenged his father-in-law without much effort.
As part of the deal, Xiangfan would withdraw safely from the southern Henan region, smoothly out of danger, and the battle of Shangnan ended.
2. Analyze and review
Except that on the way back to Shangnan, Xu Ruyu killed more than a dozen people to stop the pursuers, this was a thrilling battle with almost no war.
This battle focused on the wonderful use of "combining vertical and horizontal", Xu Ruyu and Xiangfan would be weak, and it would be futile to engage in any form of armed confrontation with the Xun family. Therefore, Xu Ruyu skillfully took advantage of Shangnan's special status and used the power of other families to balance the Xun family. In the end, he used huge profits as bait to turn the tide of the battle in one fell swoop and win a complete victory.
In addition, the idea that "there is no eternal enemy in politics, only eternal interests" embodied in this battle is quite smooth and reasonable compared to some blunt passages in other works.
3. Pick thorns
The viper lacked skill and failed to pick out any thorns in this battle.
4. General Comment: Vertical and Horizontal Battle - 95 points
3. The Qingjiang Water War
1. Brief description of the process:
Xu Ruyu led the Qingyan Army, the first armed force he built, and led the Xiangfan Association to Xuancheng, a deserted city in Qingjiang Prefecture, Yue County, to establish his own new base. The Qingyan Army carried a large amount of grain and a huge amount of money, including sixteen hundred warships (disguised as merchant ships) with the secret help of Yongyang, and nearly forty merchant ships carrying grain. Although the combat power of the 16 hundred-tip warships was strong, due to the serious shortage of sailors and fighters, the actual combat power that could be exerted was less than one.
When they reached Liyang and were about to enter the Qingjiang River, Liyang Shou demonstrated to the fleet with fifteen large-wing warships of the Liyang Water Battalion, and set out to kill Xu Ruyu. Xu Ruyu concentrated his main combat power on the lead ship and put on a tough attack posture, which made the opponent misjudge the true strength of the fleet. And the threat of the powerful Yongyang naval army behind Xu Ruyu made the opponent even more fearful, and the fleet easily frightened away the Liyang water camp, and made other forces have a greater illusion.
After the fleet entered the waters of the Qingjiang River, the Qingjiang bandit warships began to follow, and the warships came from five different bandits, with a total of 48 warships, including 36 fighting ships and 12 Mengchong warships, about 3,000 soldiers.
When the fleet was about to reach its destination, Xu Ruyu judged that the enemy would not give up and might launch an attack to test his own reality. Xu Ruyu came to an anti-guest and put on a posture of taking the initiative to attack, intending to scare the enemy back.
Cheng Jing, the boss of the Qingjiang Society among the Qingjiang bandits, did not believe in evil and showed his intention to attack (to seize the advantageous position upstream), Xu Ruyu made a quick decision and used the most powerful ship, captured the thief and captured the king first, sank Cheng Jing's ship, killed Cheng Jing and the strategists sent by Nanping County, and supported until the arrival of 500 reinforcements from Xiangfanhui.
The rest of the bandits were frightened, and they didn't dare to twist Xu Ruyu's tiger whiskers anymore, and retreated gloomily.
The fleet successfully arrived at its destination, and the battle of the Qingjiang River ended.
2. Analyze and review
This is the first water battle in the book, and the author's description of water battle warships, water battle formations, and water battle tactics gives readers a new war experience.
Xu Ruyu's fleet seemed to be strong, but in fact it was vulnerable, and in the face of the Liyang Water Camp and the Qingjiang Water Bandits, he had to sing the empty city plan twice, taking the virtual as the real and hiding the virtual with the real before he got through the danger.
In the Liyang section, the real scruples of the Liyang Water Camp are not entirely in the strength shown by Xu Ruyu, the threat of the Yongyang Water Master is fundamental, if there is no certainty of killing with one blow, Liyang will not dare to start the battle lightly. In the eyes of outsiders, it became a proof that Xu Ruyu's fleet had enough strength, which made the Qingjiang water bandits suspicious and jealous, and provided a basis for the Qingjiang water bandits not to attack easily in the future.
The Qingjiang bandits were improvised patchwork, and there was no trust between them, and although their combat power was strong, they could not work together. So much so that under the strong oppression of Xu Ruyu, he did not dare to attack, and sat back and watched Xu Ruyu capture the king in a battle and kill the enemy.
3. Pick thorns
The author's conception and description of this battle are not detailed and perfect, and there are some problems.
1) In the Liyang section, the gap between the performance of the enemy generals is too large, and it feels unreal.
The enemy general Zhu Tongshan first concluded that as soon as Xu Ruyu entered the Qingjiang River, he would be troubled in the future, so he led his army to fight and decided to besiege Xu Ruyu rather than violate the orders of the head of the family, showing a shrewd, decisive and unswerving character; But later, as soon as Xu Ruyu bluffed, the enemy general was immediately shocked, hesitated, and misjudged again and again, which was very different from the previous performance.
If it is changed to the head of the Zhu family to have this judgment and secretly order him to act cheaply, the enemy general will put up a killing array, and later he was deceived by Xu Yi, and the square inch is chaotic, and the misjudgment is frequent, this plot will be more real.
2) The performance of the Qingjiang water bandits was also unsatisfactory. As soon as the fleet entered the Qingjiang River, a large number of warships of the water bandits began to follow, and when they arrived at Xu Ruyu's destination, they did not make any active attack.
Although this behavior can be explained by the fact that the bandits have their own evil intentions, are suspicious of each other, and no one wants to come out easily, from some details described by the author, it can be concluded that the Qingjiang water bandits reached an alliance and determined the command very early. In this case, it should be shot early to avoid long nights and dreams. In fact, the result of the delay was that Xu Ruyu waited for reinforcements from the Xiangfan Society, and the water bandits had no chance of winning.
Here we should add a reasonable reason for the bandits to wait - for example, the geographical advantage, the water conditions of a certain section of the river near the mouth of the Lishui River are not conducive to the combat power of Xu Ruyu's side; Or a ploy, the bandits set up an ambush somewhere near the mouth of the Lishui River, planning to attack Xu's fleet by land and water.
Of course, the result was still recognized by Xu Ruyu and used back.
4. General comment: The battle between fiction and reality - 75 points
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