Chapter 241: The Ming Dynasty People Are Too Advanced to Play the Navy
"Slave and maid understand...... Actually, Qin Yaozu didn't understand anything at all, and his mind was blank.
"Also, your Fisheries Supervision Department is involved in fish in the sea and disaster relief in the hinterland, so I have to find you a convenient place for transportation and location to facilitate management, so that your Fisheries Supervision Department is located in ...... Located in ......" Yang Reform couldn't remember what that place was called for a while, so he turned his head and asked Xu Guangqi: "Master Xu, what is the name of the place where you are from?" It seems to be the mouth of the Yangtze River. ”
Xu Guangqi was also shocked by the emperor's words, still digesting the emperor's words, and when he heard the emperor ask himself, he hurriedly replied: "Back to Your Majesty, Songjiang Mansion, Shanghai County." ”
"Yes, yes, that's the place, one side is connected to the sea, and the other side is the Yangtze River waterway, so the fishery department is set up in Shanghai County, so that you can collect fish and meat and send it to Shaanxi." Yang Gengai also set the office location of the Fisheries Supervision Department.
Qin Yaozu has been confused from just now to now, neither understanding what the emperor asked him to do, nor understanding why the emperor did this, but he probably also understood that his task was really arduous, perhaps, he should not have promised the emperor's second choice just now, he should have chosen the first one, and directly became the palm seal eunuch of the internal official supervisor, so that it would not be so hard.
"The slave obeys." I don't understand it, but I still have to say it.
"Otomo, which department is in charge of the salt for this pickled fish?" Yang asked Gengai.
"Back to Your Majesty, this Shanghai County is under the management of Songjiang Prefecture, Songjiang is a place of salt production, and there is a Songjiang Transshipment Division under the Liangzhejiang Transshipment Division, if Your Majesty wants to allocate fish and salt, it should be transferred from this Songjiang Transshipment Division." Wang Chengen replied.
"Okay, let's transfer it from here." Yang Reform finalized this matter again.
Zhang Jiude felt that he had come here, and there was almost no opportunity to speak, and after thinking for a long time, he finally decided to speak, showing his existence, and said: "Your Majesty, there is a matter that the minister doesn't know whether to say or not." ”
"Oh, what's there, just say it."
"Your Majesty, this Tianxia River Mooring is somewhat similar to the Fishery Administration Department established by His Majesty, can there be a subordinate relationship?" Zhang Jiude has been dealing with the river all the year round, and he is relatively clear about the things involving the river.
"What is a river mooring?" Yang asked Gengai.
"Back to Your Majesty, the river berths are the places where the fish tax is collected, and there are more than 200 places in the country where there are rivers and lakes in our dynasty." Zhang Jiude replied.
Yang reform is also a line, it turns out that the Ming Dynasty also has a fishery policy, Yang reform has always thought that there is no fishery policy. However, after thinking about Zhang Jiude's words carefully, I found that this is probably still different from his own fishery department, this Hebo probably collects the fish tax of freshwater fish, and his own fishery department is in charge of the fishery administration in the sea, there is still some difference, thought about it, and said: "This, it doesn't matter much, now the fishery administration and supervision department is still in the grass, it is not appropriate to complicate the relationship, don't implicate these two." "Yang Genghe decided not to merge these two together for the time being, this relationship is complicated, but it is not good, and it is a waste of energy.
…… After discussing the fishery matter, the matter is over, Xu Guangqi plans to leave, he still has countless things waiting for him to be busy, but Zhou Yanru is still kneeling there, Xu Guangqi is not leaving, not leaving, he can't stop glancing at Zhou Yanru.
Zhou Yanru felt that he was really unlucky, and knelt down by himself, but the emperor never called himself up, he knelt for a while, the emperor seemed to forget that he was still kneeling, he didn't tell him to get up, he didn't dare to get up, so he had to kneel there all the time, and what was even more unfortunate was that the emperor's words just now were too shocking, so that when he pinched his thigh, he didn't notice it when he used too much force, and now that the strength has passed, Zhou Yanru feels that the place he just pinched is hot and painful.
Zhou Yanru couldn't wait to slap his mouth, he shouldn't have talked too much just now, the trouble came from his mouth, he didn't say anything wrong, he didn't say a good word, he was scolded by the emperor, ......, but why did the emperor and Xu Guangqi talk about speculation like this? You asked me to answer, you said that I discussed, and such a major event was simply decided, it seems that this emperor still has a few brushes! It seems that he will have to learn more from Xu Guangqi in the future...... "Zhou Aiqing, you get up, don't bring the words of the Heavenly Empire to your lips like this in the future, I warned you before, you should care more about the people, care about the people, and go to the grassroots to understand the actual situation, understand?" Yang Gai looked at Zhou Yanru, a very young deputy ministerial-level substantive official, and kindly educated him.
"The minister obeys the order, thank Your Majesty for his teachings, and the minister will keep it in mind." Zhou Yanru stood up as usual, only to feel that the place where his thigh was just pinched was not an ordinary pain, and in this Wenhua Palace, he couldn't lose his etiquette, so Zhou Yanru had to grit his teeth and hold on.
Xu Guangqi saw that the emperor had asked Zhou Yanru to get up, so he took his leave.
When he went out, Zhou Yanru limped with one leg as if he was lame. Yang Gengai also felt strange when he saw it, so he knelt down for a while, and he couldn't do it? This guy is so young, can't he be physically?
Xu Guangqi and his entourage resigned, and Yang Reform left Qin Yaozu alone.
"Qin Yaozu, the matter of this fishing boat is over, you can talk about these types of ships of yours, what are the advantages and disadvantages of various warships, and when the styles of various warships are set, go to Master Xu to report for duty." Yang Gengai shifted the focus of this matter to the construction of warships.
Qin Yaozu's mind was full of mud just now, and after this period of adaptation, he finally had a certain understanding of his new position, that is, he might have to fight at sea, so his opinion on this warship has changed dramatically.
"Yes, Your Majesty ......"
“…… Your Majesty, the slave maid thinks that to build a ship, it is necessary to build a big ship, especially a big ship, so that it can sail on the sea for a long time; To build a ship, you should build a powerful one, so that the ship can be strong and can withstand the wind and waves at sea; Artillery weapons must be sharp, so that the enemy can be suppressed...... "Qin Yaozu saw that his position had changed from an internal official supervisor to a fishery admiral, and he had to deal with the ocean every day, and the previous attitude of building ships for others, it didn't matter how he built them, changed and became a loyal supporter of big ships and giant artillery, because only big ships and huge cannons can guarantee the safety of people at sea, if he set up a sampan to go to sea, Qin Yaozu would never do it.
Yang Gai sounded a little weird, but he still let him continue.
"The minister thinks that in a fleet, it is best to have a treasure ship to be the commander ship, as the core of the whole fleet; Then this kind of big fortune ship is used as a ship [the full name of the ship is a battle ship, a large warship], which specializes in combat, can effectively strike at the enemy and destroy the enemy, and this kind of large ship can also be used as a handsome ship of the detachment; Then build a few smaller Fu ships, as warships, and as the main force of the sailors, specializing in combat; Then build several horse clippers, which can be used for water battles or to transport military supplies; Then there are several ships with water, so, Your Majesty, a relatively complete fleet is completed, this kind of fleet is suitable for long-distance voyages, and can travel thousands of miles with sufficient supplies...... "Qin Yaozu is now a complete supporter of big ships and cannons, and while talking, he also picked up different ship models and compared them to the emperor, when he first said that when he said treasure ships, he took treasure ships, and when he said that when he took a boat, he took the kind of big lucky boats, then smaller lucky boats, then horse clippers bigger than small lucky boats, and finally water boats, which are also very large ......, Yang Gengai compared the composition of this fleet with the yellow croaker ships behind, it was impossible to see, it was all giant ships.
Yang Gengai looked at the composition of the fleet recommended by this guy to himself, and felt that this fleet was very different from Amdo's fleet, the Western fleet, but there was no logistics ship dedicated to transporting supplies, and Qin Yaozu's fleet, there were armed transport ships that could transport materials in battle, and there were also water ships that specialized in transporting grain and fresh water.
"Qin Yaozu, this fleet of yours is too luxurious, how can it be equipped with so many grain ships and water ships?" Yang Reform was also depressed, this kind of fleet is not a fleet specifically responsible for combat, and the gap between it and the fleet of Westerners is also too big.
Qin Yaozu now can't wait for his Fishery Administration and Supervision Department to use treasure boats, so that it is safe, and when he saw the emperor asking, he immediately replied: "Back to Your Majesty, as the saying goes, the soldiers and horses have not moved, the grain and grass go first, this fleet has traveled far away, and there is no supplement, isn't it distracting the army?" Therefore, in the fleet of slaves and maids, there are horse clippers and water boats, which can not only transport military supplies, participate in battles, but also transport horses, and when they arrive at a certain place, they can put down their horses and become cavalry, so that the ocean-going fleet can have deterrent power,......" Qin Yaozu was very confident when he talked about his fleet.
Yang Reform was also thundered, isn't this the Marine Corps? is still a marine cavalry, this ......, the thinking of the Ming Dynasty people, there is really a big gap with themselves! Or is it that the thinking of the people of the Ming Dynasty, beyond several centuries, began to play the navy directly from the nineteenth century?
"Qin Yaozu, I ask you, who told you the ratio of your fleet? How did you come up with the idea. "Yang Reform is very curious, what does Qin Yaozu's brain think, the thinking gap between the East and the West, is really not ordinarily large, today's Western warships, just the King of the Sea, there are more than 800 sailors, and the Ming Dynasty fortune ships of about the same size are only more than 300 people, this is obvious, the Western sailors are not as good as the Ming Dynasty soldiers, at least in space, the Ming Dynasty has more soldiers.
"Back to Your Majesty, the slave maid is very stupid, there is so much understanding, the slave maid also asked some old people, some old officers and soldiers, and learned from them that the three guarantees eunuch Zheng He went to the West back then, and the fleet was like this, and the slave and maid just copied the fleet of the three guarantees eunuch Zheng He, but the number was less......" Qin Yaozu said very modestly, and he was also very honest, because Zheng Huaizhong repeatedly warned him that he had something to say in front of the emperor.
......, Yang was speechless, and sure enough, this Ming Dynasty man started playing the navy in the nineteenth century, which is too advanced. Directly skipped the Westerners' kind of one, several warships to fight naval battles, play the way of the navy, as soon as you get on the horse, it is the pattern of aircraft carriers, large warships, small warships, armed transport ships, logistics ships, and there are marine cavalry in the navy...... "Then you have to match a lot of non-combatants in your fleet." Yang asked reform.
"Back to Your Majesty, indeed, if you follow the configuration of the three eunuchs, in this fleet, in addition to the official army, there are also flag troops, warriors, generals, people, compradors, scholars, as well as household officials, yin and yang officials, teachings, medical officers, internal officials, ......" The dream in Qin Yaozu's heart flared up, and the eunuchs now regard Zheng He as their own goal, and they are very familiar with everything about Zheng He. Because of Zheng Huaizhong's various explanations from the internal officials and eunuchs, the emperor was very interested in this Western Ocean, and the emperor's interest was naturally the interest of the eunuchs. Qin Yaozu happily reported the staffing of Zheng He's fleet.
Yang Reform was completely speechless, according to Qin Yaozu's configuration, he directly skipped the seventeenth century and the eighteenth century in the history of naval development, and directly started to play from the nineteenth century, and even, maybe from the twentieth century, Yang Reform remembered that only in later generations did there be a fleet of ships with all kinds of functions, but now, it is only the early stage of the seventeenth century.
What makes Yang Reform even more entangled is that Zheng He of the Ming Dynasty began to play like this in the 15th century, more than 200 years earlier than now, and the time is even longer from the 19th and 20th centuries of later generations.
What makes Yang Reform entangled the most is that Zheng He's navigation information is missing, and now even if he wants to start playing from the Zheng He era, he can't do it, and now the naval divisions of the Ming Dynasty are really not powerful, all of them are small boats, and they can only fight offshore.
"Alas......, I know that you are talking about the time of the eunuch Zheng He of Sanbao, and now, it is different from that time, so don't talk too far, let's talk about something reliable. In the fleet, don't have too many idle people, etc., the fleet is still mainly to ensure combat effectiveness, the fleet, for the sake of fighting, exists......" Yang Reform was entangled for a while, feeling that it is not possible to take Zheng He's kind of road now, first, the shipbuilding technology has not been settled, and second, the West has gradually risen, the West's kind of warships built purely for combat have a certain threat to this kind of large and complete fleet, if he purely follows Zheng He's old way, I am afraid it will not work.
Qin Yaozu thought for a while and said: "Then Your Majesty, according to the slave maid, it is best to have a treasure ship as a handsome ship, if there is no treasure ship, you have to use this kind of large fortune ship as a handsome ship, and you must also use a large fortune ship to take a boat [battle ship, large warship], a small warship can use this kind of small fortune boat, even the Haicang ship can also be used, this horse clipper can be equipped with less, not a horse, more ordnance and gunpowder and military supplies, and the water boat can also be less equipped with a few things, on this ship, except for the medical officer, the others can be omitted, so that a lot of people can be saved... Qin Yaozu also knew that it was impossible to build Zheng He's treasure ship now, so he made a simple version of the fleet.
…… Yang Gengai originally thought that the warships of the Ming Dynasty would all be aligned with the Western warfleet, purely considering the battle as the warship, but after thinking about it, listening to Qin Yaozu's words, and thinking about it again, the division of labor of various ships is also the trend, so he decided to retain the tradition of the Ming Dynasty today, or in other words, try to integrate with the 21st century.
"Well, okay, it's up to you, the treasure ship is built first, with the treasure ship as the flagship, the big fortune ship as the ship, as the big warship, the small fortune ship as the combat ship, as the small warship, the horse clipper as the armed transport ship, responsible for food, ordnance, gunpowder, military supplies, etc., no need to transport horses, water boats, ......, add a communication ship that is specifically responsible for communication and transmitting messages, that's roughly it, look at the proportion of these ships, how many are each?" Yang Reform decided to retain the traditions of the Ming Dynasty and retain the characteristics of the Ming Dynasty, as for whether the pure warships of the Western Ocean are more suitable for the current market, or whether the cooperation between various ships of the Ming Dynasty is more suitable for the world, this has to be tested by time.
"Yes, Your Majesty,...... The slave maid thought that a fleet should be equipped with a handsome ship, at least five large ships [the full name of the ship is a battleship, a large warship], ten small warships, three horse clippers, two water ships, and communication ships, about two or three. "Qin Yaozu is also half a bucket of water about this matter, and he won't know much more than the emperor, but since the emperor asked, let's say it, Qin Yaozu estimated and said the fleet in his mind, this kind of ratio is completely compared to the previous Yiren's fleet ratio, everything is a little more than him, in order to say that the record of this fleet in the future is better than that of the Yiren's fleet, Qin Yaozu kept a careful thought.
Yang Reform walked down and carefully looked at the ship models that Qin Yaozu picked out and formed the fleet, there are five or six kinds of ships, the largest is the treasure ship, this kind of ship has not yet landed, and it is not easy to say whether it can be built or not.
The slightly smaller one is the one that Qin Yaozu held in his hand and Andobi at the beginning, which is a big fortune boat, a smaller one is a small fortune boat, then a horse clipper, a water boat, and finally a communication boat.
Yang Gai picked up the kind of boat that Qin Yaozu and Amdo were competing with at the beginning, and said, "This kind of boat is the Dafu boat." ”
"Back to Your Majesty, exactly. This kind of ship is the Daifuku ship, which can be used as a boat, with eight Hongyi cannons, forty thousand-pound Buddha machines, and other firearms, which is considered a powerful warship. Qin Yaozu said.
"Well, this is good, are you all making these boat samples according to the actual size of the ship?" Yang Reform also has a bit of a headache now, and Yang Reform doesn't understand the various data, crew, firepower, and endurance of this ship.
"Back to Your Majesty, yes, except for the treasure ship, the others are made according to the actual size of the existing warships of our dynasty as a sample, otherwise they will not be called ship samples." Qin Yaozu said that he was very proud, this official and eunuch in the inner court is not a dry meal, there are all kinds of skilled craftsmen in the world.
"So, very good, it's up to you, build five or six of this kind of big fortune ships first,......" Yang Gai picked up the large fortune ship and said, this kind of blessing ship has eight long-range Hongyi cannons, and a little closer to forty thousand-pound Buddha franc machines, which can be regarded as ferocious, not to mention other small firearms.
Then he picked up the smaller fortune ship and continued: "This kind of small fortune ship, used as a small warship, as you said, build ten. "The gun emplacements on this side are much less, about half of them compared to the previous one.
Then he picked up an armed transport ship like a horse clipper and said, "There are only two of these horse clippers." ”
Then there was the water boat, Yang Gai thought for a long time, and said: "This kind of thing, don't want it, it's not to go to the ocean, his function is in the horse clipper." "In the end, Yang Reform still didn't ask for a water boat, this is a fleet for combat, not a fleet for Zheng He.
Finally, he picked up the ship that was temporarily used as a communication ship and said, "Let's build two or three of these communication ships." "A fleet, finally formed.
(To be continued)