41. Trip to Soviet Russia VII
On June 15, 1923, Skryansky, deputy chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Soviet Union, finally found time in his busy schedule to meet Chiang Kai-shek and Luo Yaoguo, and the real talks began today.
The talks were held in a building belonging to the Revolutionary Military Council, and after a few pleasantries between the guests and the hosts, Chiang Kai-shek first went straight to the point, saying: "The central mission of this delegation is in the military aspect, and the delegation should in fact be a military delegation, so I attach the most importance to the discussion with the military authorities of Soviet Russia." The main tasks of the delegation's visit to the USSR were as follows:
1. It is hoped that the Soviet and Russian sides will help build a steel plant and help rebuild the existing arsenal in Guangdong. Due to the distance between Guangdong and the Soviet Union, all transportation could only be carried out by sea, and unfortunately the control of this sea area undoubtedly belonged to the third largest navy in the world. If the Chinese Revolution touched the interests of the Soviet Union, the navy could easily cut off the Soviet Union's shipping to China, so Mr. Nakayama hoped that the Soviet Union would help us build the most basic military industry, so that we could produce cannons, machine guns, rifles, and a considerable amount of ammunition. This point was important for the victory of the Chinese revolution and for opposing the common enemy of China and the Soviet Union.
2. We hope to jointly explore China's combat plan. At present, the Kuomintang has taken control of Guangdong, Guangxi, Fujian, and half of Hunan Province, and in the south the Kuomintang has gradually won victory. However, China's political center has been in the north for thousands of years, and the Kuomintang in the north is still very weak, so the Kuomintang hopes that the Soviet Union will support the Kuomintang's military activities in the north. It would be better to allow the Kuomintang to establish a base in Mongolia, train and arm the army, and then flank the Beiyang warlords who occupied the center of China from north to south. To this end, the Kuomintang could agree that the GCD and the Kuomintang would jointly lead the revolutionary army in the north, and now Mr. Zhongshan has appointed Comrade Mao ZD, a member of the GCD Politburo, as chairman of the Northwest Military and Political Committee.
3. It is hoped that the Revolutionary Military Council of the Soviet Union will be able to send personnel to Guangdong to help train troops and personnel, mainly to help train troops and personnel for the Northwest military program. To this end, Mr. Nakayama has agreed to establish a Northwest Military and Political School, which will be jointly headed by the Generalissimo's Camp Staff and the Northwest Military and Political Commission. ”
Skryansky replied: "The plan to establish a base in Mongolia is not in fact feasible, the Mongols are afraid of the Chinese, and the Kuomintang should not conduct military operations there in any case, which would cause serious misunderstandings." The proposal of the Revolutionary Military Council was to find Kuomintang supporters in remote areas of northern China in order to establish base areas, for which the Soviet side was willing to provide all necessary support in terms of personnel, funds, weapons and ammunition.
The Soviet Union agreed in principle to help build steel mills and help the Kuomintang to rebuild arsenals, but because the Soviet Union itself had just experienced a brutal war, it did not have much spare power to support the Kuomintang's industrial construction, but the Comintern could mobilize the working class and intellectuals of Western Europe to participate in this aid construction, and the Soviet Union would also send some experts to participate. However, in terms of funding, the Soviet Union was able to provide very limited help, and could only provide a loan of 3 million gold rubles at an annual interest rate of 3%, and this loan had to be used for the purchase of industrial equipment produced in the Soviet Union.
The dispatch of personnel to help train personnel for the Northwest Military Plan should wait until a feasible Northwest Military Plan is available, and the Revolutionary Military Council of the Soviet Union will do everything possible to help the Kuomintang establish a revolutionary base in the Northwest of China. ”
At that time, the gold ruble, also known as the Chervin bank note, was secured by 25% gold and 75% of the commodity, and the theoretical gold content of a Chervin bank note was 7.742 grams of gold, which was almost equal to 5 US dollars. Of course, this is only a theoretical value, in fact, because of the lack of gold content, it is not very recognized in Western countries. The 3 million gold ruble loan given by Skryansky was theoretically equivalent to 15 million US dollars, more than 40 million silver dollars, which at that time would have been able to build a 100,000-ton steel plant, including a special steel mill. The bottom line given by Kamenev is 5 million gold rubles, which is equivalent to nearly 70 million silver dollars, so that not only steel plants, but also nitric acid plants, sulfuric acid plants, gunpowder factories and even copper smelters can be built, so that the most basic military industry can be built.
After listening to Qu Ming's translation, Lu Ming, who was in charge of the construction aid negotiations, put forward his own opinions, saying: "First of all, on behalf of the Kuomintang and Mr. Zhongshan, I would like to thank the Soviet Union for its generous assistance, but there are two points that we hope to be determined in advance: First, how much machinery and equipment can the Soviet Union provide, and what is the quality of these equipment? 2. It is hoped that the Soviet side will be able to determine the method and time of repayment, because the actual gold content of the Chervin bank notes is only 25%, so we cannot repay the loan in gold or silver. We want to be able to repay in advance in terms of commodities and gold and silver that we need to repay, and we want to be able to repay in silver and commodities instead of gold, because our gold production is very small. ”
Skryansky had a headache as soon as he heard about gold, silver, commodities, and so on, he was a proletarian revolutionary, this kind of money thing is really not very good, and this Chinese with round eyes and a shrewd look is estimated to be either a capitalist or a manager, this kind of person is better left to the Ministry of Foreign Trade to deal with, this is their specialty, the revolutionary who made up his mind nodded and replied: "My opinion is that this kind of detail problem should be discussed with representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Trade and the bank, and we want to determine the general direction." How about the Revolutionary Military Council arrange for comrades from the foreign trade and banking departments of the USSR to discuss the specifics with you? ”
Lu Ming nodded with satisfaction after listening to Skryansky's answer, and added: "The machinery and equipment provided by the Soviet Union, we also hope to send supervisors to participate in the production in order to determine their quality." ”
"Okay, so be it. The Revolutionary Military Committee hopes that you will come up with a new military plan for the northwest as soon as possible, and then we will discuss in detail the details of the aid and how to implement the military plan for the northwest. Now, on behalf of the Revolutionary Military Council, I would like to invite your delegation to a welcoming banquet hosted by the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Revolutionary Military Council. "Well, it's not eating and drinking at public expense, it's entertaining foreign guests, please don't get me wrong, the Soviet revolutionaries of that era were still very pure.
"Ziyan, is 3 million gold rubles enough? I think there seems to be room for the Soviets to increase their attitude. In the bathroom of the banquet hall, Luo Yaoguo turned on the faucet to the maximum, wasting precious water resources, while discussing official business with Lu Ming.
Lu Ming smiled faintly and said: "If the Soviets allow us to use these gold rubles to purchase German or American machinery and equipment, of course, the more the better." However, if you can only buy Soviet machinery and equipment, I think 3 million gold rubles will be about the same. I think the Soviet coke ovens, blast furnaces, Martin furnaces and so on can still be used, and they should be able to help build refractory factories, and the electric arc furnaces are suspended, and the forging machine and extruder and other precision equipment I suggest that we pay for it to buy German ones. Most of the equipment used in the Soviet Union today was also bought from France during the Imperial Russian period.
So 3 million gold rubles is enough, and we have to determine with the Soviet Union on the issue of repayment, our country has more silver and less gold, so we should use 25% of silver plus 75% of the goods, I recommend using textiles, there are many large textile factories in Shanghai, in addition to rubber, rubber is a strategic resource, the Soviet Union itself can not produce at all, our Hainan Island now attracts a lot of Nanyang businessmen to open rubber plantations, and these rubbers can be sold to the Soviet Union in the future. ”
"Well, your idea is good, we can't repay with too much produce, and we don't have enough of our own produce. Textiles and rubber can be considered, but I don't think Soviet textiles are very good, and we have to find a way to occupy the Soviet market. "Luo Yaoguo's memory in his previous life seems to be a socialist country, except for the kind of socialism with the characteristics of a certain country, it is generally lame industry, heavy industry is developing extraordinarily, and light industry is not developing at all.
After Lu Ming left the toilet and went back to have a big meal, Chiang Kai-shek began to "diarrhea" with Luo Yaoguo again, wasting the water resources of the Soviet Union by the way.
"Fuwen, it seems that the Soviet Union will definitely not return Mongolia." Chiang Kai-shek's face was ugly, it was estimated that he really had a bad stomach, and the caviar didn't seem to be very fresh.
Luo Yaoguo looked indifferent, he said: "Jiegong, this matter is expected, we don't have to worry about it." Now the Soviets are willing to give 3 million gold rubles to help build our heavy industry, and our purpose of this trip has been successful. I estimate that the Soviet side is satisfied with our new "Northwest Military Plan", so it will agree to aid the construction, well, then we will come up with this plan, by the way, I ask the Soviet Union for 2 million gold rubles of aid for the Northwest Military Plan, I estimate that it is not a big problem to ask them for 1 million gold rubles in cash for the purchase of arms from Yan Xishan. ”
Hehe, ask Yan Xishan to buy arms! Uh, you can't let Mao ZD buy it, right? He has no way out of the old man's house, and Yan Laoxi doesn't sell it. The Kuomintang is now having a big face, and most of this deal is to be held accountable to the General Staff. Rebates or something, as usual, 5% to 10%, about 50,000 to 100,000 gold rubles! Almost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Thinking of this, Luo Yaoguo's face was already full of joy, as if the silver silver money was beckoning to him.
"Well, that's up to you then, remember, do it nicely." Luo Yaoguo's mind couldn't hide from Chiang Kai-shek at all, but Chiang Kai-shek was not very interested in anti-[***] or something, although he himself was not very [***], but he was obviously too indulgent to his subordinates.
"Jiegong, I know." Luo Yaoguo showed a bright smile and respectfully gave a military salute to Chiang Kai-shek. Well, the meaning of being beautiful is that you can't monopolize it, basically take a thirty percent, and give the rest to Chiang Kai-shek and let him distribute it.
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