549 Suffering Losses and Taking Advantage (Medium)

"In a few years, will the people of the Ming Dynasty look at us with the same eyes, are they willing to accept such an outcome?" In the face of the old man's question, some people still seemed to be unconvinced, but this was difficult to answer after all, and it was not until a long time later that someone whispered: "As long as we are strong enough", why care what they think? ”

But this time, Professor Li shook his head very clearly and said no: "No, young man, you are wrong. Our situation is completely different from that of those Western countries: In the 12th century, Western countries had their own countries and nations, and they did not depend on China at that time. However, we are not the case, we only have more than 100 people, "our survival, continuation, and future development must absorb the manpower and material resources of the Central Plains Dynasty." ”

Taking a deep breath, the old man nodded to everyone: "No matter how advanced our technology is", we are still descendants of China, and we can't get away from the Chinese civilization on the mainland after all" It's like a tree can't do without roots, and a fish can't do without water. Sooner or later, we will merge with the vast masses of people on the Central Plains Continent. The difference is only in how much we can influence them~ Therefore, their perception of our group is by no means dispensable, but a major event related to our future development and prospects! We must not treat the Ming Empire the same way that the developed countries of the West treated the then "China" countries a few years later, and we are completely capable of doing better than those countries! ”

No one spoke, and the chamber fell silent for a long time.

Professor Li's words were like a sharp scalpel, cutting through the shell that had long covered the hearts of many people in one fell swoop. So that something that they had only vaguely felt for a long time became clear in an instant......

First, what about the future? What about mastering advanced technologies and concepts? They are still a group of Chinese people, and they themselves are only more than a hundred people! These two points determine that they can neither break away from the big tree of Chinese civilization, nor can they reproduce into a new population alone, so whether they actively or passively conquer or be conquered, they will sooner or later live with their ancestors on the continent and merge into a group.

And even if they use violent means to "take the initiative to conquer the land on the mainland, and drive the Ming Dynasty people as slaves", this result will not change. At most, it's just a little faster to merge, a little more fierce resistance in the middle, and a little more likely to fail in the end.

Will they fail too?

Absolutely. Whatever advanced technology or knowledge,

As long as you live with the people of this era, "sooner or later, it will spread." However, the inheritance and context of Chinese civilization is long and long, and its strong adaptability and assimilation ability have made this ancient civilization go through thousands of years of ups and downs, but it has never been interrupted.

For a long time, in this group, on the issue of policy towards the Ming Empire, there were always some people who felt that the decision-makers were too weak, and why did they always insist on taking the peaceful line when they had the knowledge, concepts, and technical equipment that were many years ahead of the other side? Isn't it easiest to solve it with violence? Why is it easier than easy?

And the most important factor supporting them to hold this idea is undoubtedly the Manchu dynasty, which has just risen between the white mountains and black waters, but has only been in power in the Central Plains a few decades later. There is no reason why even the Manchurian barbarians can do it, but when those young men who advocate taking the violent route care about the good life of the princes and Baylors in the Qing court drama, they never thought about the final fate of those invaders in history.

Historically, Mongolia and Manchuria successively entered China, and Mongolia refused to change itself and adapt to China, so the Mongolian cavalry, which had dominated the world and was invincible in Europe and Asia, was driven out of the Central Plains after just 80 years, and has been in a state of collapse ever since. The Manchurians, on the other hand, skillfully changed themselves to adapt to the culture of the Central Plains, so they enjoyed the world for three hundred years. However, the adaptation of this nation was so thorough that when the world rose up a few years later to "change the dynasty", they could no longer even use the so-called "retreat outside the border" that had been prepared for hundreds of years. And once it loses the aura of the ruling class, in addition to the term "Manchu", even its own language has been forgotten.

But for the murderous crimes they made when they seized the world, even if many years later, the dynasty they established has long since collapsed, and they have long been integrated into the Chinese nation and become one of them, but they are still criticized and scolded by countless angry young people like Xiao Lang on the Internet, and they will never be able to turn over......

First, maybe it's just because they subconsciously don't want to repeat the old mistakes of those Manchurians, and they don't want to be infamous for a thousand years in later generations: maybe because in their minds, the Ming Dynasty belongs to the category of "their own people", even if it is not now, it will be known in the future. From then on, this group of modern people would always adopt peaceful means in their exchanges with the Ming Dynasty, using the exchange of interests to deal with the Ming Dynasty, rather than adopting more straightforward and violent methods, even if it seemed conservative.

For those young people who are young and vigorous and are not afraid of heaven and earth, they may be able to use "Who cares about the flood after I die" and "As long as I am happy, I don't care if others live or die"...... And so on and so forth, to face the problems they encountered. However, literati with a strong atmosphere of traditional scholars and doctors, such as Professor Li Mingyuan, Xu Hui, Huang Jiancheng, Pang Yu, and other down-to-earth engineers and technicians, and even people with rich social experience such as Xie Xiana, could never have allowed themselves and the group to act arbitrarily with such an irresponsible attitude.

As long as conditions permit, they certainly hope that they can do better, rather than falling into the cycle of chaos that changes the dynasty.

Since it was such a group of people who made up the majority of the more than a hundred time-travelers on the Qionghai, and were dominant in this group, at least for the first year or two of their battle with the Ming Empire. As a result, "the Qiong Navy, with them as the main decision-makers, after initially repelling the attack of the Ming Empire, in the subsequent exchanges with this old empire, which was already at the end of the dynasty, showed extreme gentleness and patience, even though the other party showed ignorance and arrogance and greed in many aspects, they still insisted on using peaceful means to communicate with the other party."

"But...... We have signed an agreement after all! "Some people tried to use the agreement between the two sides as a last resort", but in this regard, Mr. Li just understated it and laughed: "Speaking of the agreement...... In our time, the Treaty of Nanjing, the Treaty of Xincho

It's also an agreement, signed in black and white, but who thinks it's valid?

Of course, we didn't go to such extremes, but you have to know that "an agreement is only really followed when both parties feel that it is relatively fair." When we signed an agreement with the Ming Dynasty earlier, "the two sides had different perspectives on this agreement, different things they valued, and the level of negotiation between our personnel and Ming officials was very different." But the people of the Ming Dynasty were not stupid, "with the passage of time, various interests gradually emerged", they will still understand after all. ”

When he said this, the old man sighed softly: "To say something not very kind here, when Zhu LĂŹ negotiated an annual tribute of 20,000 yuan for us, it was for the collective to try to win the benefits of the sprout, and from the perspective of her negotiator, it was a complete victory."

However, from the overall situation, it is not conducive to our further development of relations with the Ming Empire. When the Ming people found that we could benefit a lot from the exchanges between the two sides, but they did not get much benefit, their attitude towards this agreement can be imagined. Perhaps Qian Qianyi himself was willing to continue to implement the agreement in order to maintain his credibility and reputation, but the other political forces in the Ming Empire did not have this obligation, and they would definitely not be willing to suffer this loss all the time. It may not be obvious at the moment, but if the situation between the two sides continues, there will certainly be more and more similar incidents in the future. ”

"So, old man, this agreement we signed is just a piece of waste paper? The people of the Ming Dynasty said that if you tear it up, you can tear it up? We agreed to their demands this time, and we will not let them take what they want in the future! ”

Xiao Lang said angrily with red eyes, but the old professor shook his head slightly: "Of course not, but our relationship with the Ming Empire, from the initial hostility to mutual cooperation, to the beginning of mutual cooperation, and may be more closely connected in the future, this is a gradual process." This agreement was signed at the time when our two sides had just ended hostilities, and its most important content was on the political front, which has been effectively implemented. And as our mutual understanding and trust deepen, "the economic cooperation is increasing, and the economic provisions of the agreement, which were not valued by the Ming Dynasty, have become increasingly important." And the Ming Dynasty found that they had not thought it through in this regard at the beginning, "It is also natural to try to make up for it, and there is no need to make a fuss." ”

In this process, the two sides must test each other. This time, let's take a step back: "Next time, we will go a little further elsewhere: if we suffer a little loss here, we will try to find it elsewhere, this is the normal state of negotiation and exchange between the two sides." If you insist that you can't afford to lose anything, and see the agreement as the final result of the relationship between the two sides, "sacrosanct", then there will be no exchange. ”