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Why do we have to fight to the death with the Ming Empire, we can first occupy T and then develop southward, gradually move south along the islands of Southeast Asia, and finally reach the New World Australia. There will be wars along the way, mainly against countries such as the Netherlands and Portugal, and we will not have a psychological burden - what do you think of this road? ”

Ling Ning was still obsessed with the Australian kangaroo, and at this time he simply mentioned the same old tune again. However, as on previous occasions, there were few people who supported him.

"The islands of the South China Sea are not so easy to get to, and without cinchona and quinine, we would not be able to cope with a single illness. Maybe our people are more resistant, but we have to send the locals to that environment...... I'm afraid there is only a survival rate of more than 10 percent. ”

Old Jack rarely spoke, but if he did, he would have been sure. As the only foreigner in this group, he naturally had the most contacts with foreign captives such as Andrew, and also learned a lot about the actual situation of the Age of Discovery.

The terrible plague was one of them, and if one of the sailors on board fell ill in those days, it would be possible to reimburse the entire ship. Therefore, getting sick at sea is extremely dangerous, and even if it is not a serious illness, it can be thrown into the sea by overly nervous companions.

"Developing a desert island is not such a simple thing and requires a lot of manpower and material resources. If I'm not mistaken, just two years ago, in 1628 AD, Zheng Zhilong took advantage of the famine in southern Fujian to recruit a large number of residents from Zhangzhou and Quanzhou to go to Taiwan to pioneer the land. At that time, he offered three taels of silver for one person, and one cow for every three people, and almost bankrupt his family for this. ”

"At that time, tens of thousands of people were recruited, but they still could not fully control Taiwan - now the Dutch and the Zheng family have one side on each side. If we want to rely on immigration to develop and control the South China Sea Islands, it is impossible to do it without a population of hundreds of thousands, let alone Australia......"

Looking at his good friend, Pang Yu shook his head slightly helplessly:

"Your construction can be considered as a long-term goal in the future, but without the support of human resources on the Central Plains Continent, it is unlikely that we will be able to do this...... Unless we plan to use the Japanese. ”

Pang Yu knew that his good friend hated Little Japan the most, Ling Ning really stopped talking immediately, but Wen Desi spoke again:

"The Ming Empire's ban on the sea has never really worked, and it was a trick of the Manchurians to move the border and ban the sea, and it couldn't be done at all with the execution ability of the Ming Dynasty. There has been too much smuggling these days. Didn't the Zheng family start it by this? With our strength, armed smuggling is certainly much stronger than them. ”

-- It seems that smuggling by bypassing the government is also a way. But this time, it was Lin Feng himself who shook his head:

"By their economies of scale. Smuggling is indeed enough to meet the need. But we're different. Establishment of relevant channels. Market share of ...... All of this required the Ming Dynasty to completely open the market to us. Allow us to enter legally. Otherwise...... Policy risk has historically been the biggest risk. Increased risk means higher costs. Taking the illegal route can only be petty fighting. After all, it's hard to get bigger. ”

Although it is denied. Wen Deji was not angry. Instead, he laughed:

"That's hard. It was only after two Opium Wars that Britain forced the Qing Dynasty to open its markets. We don't have the ability to emulate. ”

After a general consultation. Everyone was a little dismayed to find out. They have all development plans. They still can't get away from big resources.

Professor Li Lao put forward his views from another angle:

"All along, the history we are most familiar with is the history of this continent; Most of the historical figures we know are generals and officials of the Central Plains Dynasty; And the mineral resources and topography that we know are all located there - the Central Plains continent, not the South Seas and Australia. ”

The old professor stood up, pushed open the window, looked in the direction of the strait, and sighed:

"Our roots are in that land after all. Times have changed though...... I don't know what you young people think, but personally, although I know that this place must be completely unfamiliar, although I know that there can be no miracles, but in my lifetime, I still hope to return to Beijing City to see it......"

Picking up the proclamation of the Governor of Liangguang and looking at it again, Professor Li smiled faintly:

"Although this admonition is harsh and arrogant, it is a line, a thin line that holds us together with the mainland. As a last resort, we still don't take the initiative to cut it off. ”

The old professor's words made everyone fall silent, and other young people may not have experienced the idea of "returning to the roots" unique to the elderly, but when they dreamed back at midnight, a faint thought called "going home" also haunted their hearts to a greater or lesser extent.

It seems that the home in time can't go back, but what about the home in the same space? Or, at least, that will be the place of your own home in the future......

After a long time, it was Osayan who spoke, breaking the silence:

"It seems that the negotiations with the Ming Empire can't be bypassed after all, let's discuss how to negotiate the conditions."

Old Ao held up the governor's proclamation, which he had studied every day for the last few days, and had almost memorized the words on it—even if it was

Wen.

"The two items of restricting residence and handing over ships must be a dream, but the first one, I listen to what that brocade guard means, maybe it is just a matter of throwing someone out as a stand-in - deceiving the official conventions."

"Stand-ins don't work, we don't need their forgiveness at all. You must not admit that you are a thief in name, let alone show weakness to the Ming Dynasty, otherwise the other party will only gain an inch. ”

Xie Xi has a very thorough view of this aspect and is very resolute.

"We can't accept the conditions of this proclamation at all, not any of them!"

Ao Sayan shook his head helplessly:

"If you refuse them all, you won't have anything to talk to them about."

"Not necessarily."

Comrade Zhao Lide, who had been silent since the meeting, finally spoke, and as soon as he opened his mouth, he spoke extraordinary:

"I don't understand why people just stare at a piece of paper, and they can't read a word when they die. But those two messengers, along with their retinue, were all big living people, and with a little effort, they would have gotten much more information than on this piece of paper! ”

Turning his head to look at Xie Xi Pang Yu and the others, Ade unceremoniously accused:

"You are also inexplicable - if you have locked people up, how can you still be locked up together? Let them consult with each other and encourage each other? Don't even know the most basic separate detention and incommunicado interrogation? ”

Ade's words were really polite, but Xie Xi and the others could only blink their eyes, and they were speechless. After a while, Pang Yu explained with a wry smile:

"I sent them to prison in the first place, but I didn't want that group of brocade guards to run around the country. I didn't want to arrest them, after all, they were emissaries......"

"Petropolitan! Now that the coercive measures have been put on it, what kind of treatment are you talking about? Anyway, these people are bent on treating us as bandits and robbers, so why do we have to hold up the frame of civilized people? ”

was sneering, but in the end, Ade waved his hand very arrogantly:

"I'll take care of this, and I'll be in charge of dealing with those messengers."

Everyone has no opinion, in this regard, Ade is definitely the authority of the authorities, since he is willing to take the initiative to take over, it is naturally the best.

However, Professor Li added an additional sentence:

"In the future, our exchanges with the mainland are likely to be carried out through them. So the way you take...... It's best not to let them have too much resistance. At the very least, you can't hurt the two envoys. ”

"Are you worried that I'm using torture to extract a confession? Don't worry, I don't need to do such a non-technical thing when I was in the detention center. ”

Ade smiled, revealing a mouthful of small white teeth:

"I can't guarantee that they won't be hurt in the slightest, but I can assure you: they don't blame us!"

The discussion of the envoys of the Ming Dynasty came to an end for the time being, and everyone agreed: put it off for a while, see what Ade can squeeze out of the envoys, and then decide on countermeasures.

However, the meeting itself was not over, Professor Li Mingyuan took out a handful of shiny little things from his pocket and threw them on the table, which immediately attracted the attention of the attendees.

The brothers from Lingao obviously knew what it was, and they all laughed and said nothing. But Lao Xie and the others saw it for the first time, and they scrambled to pick up a few each, and their faces immediately became extremely exciting.

It was a couple of coins, but it wasn't any of the original coins of the era, but a brand new silver coin. The size and face value are slightly different, but the characteristics are the same - the casting is very exquisite and gorgeous, and at a glance you can tell that it is not possible to complete the casting technology of this era.

On the reverse of the largest coin, an ugly portrait of a long horse with a crown of cupola and a round-necked robe is engraved in bas-relief, with a number of marijuana seeds on the face deliberately highlighted, which is very eye-catching. Any gentry and bureaucracy in the Ming Empire must be able to recognize this face -- it is the standard statue of the old man Zhu Yuanzhang issued by the government of the Ming Dynasty and specially used for hanging sacrifices in various places.

Around the avatar is a circle of text, which is obviously written in printed italics: Daming Hongwu Tongbao. Underneath is the Arabic number 30, with several dragon motifs on the very edges.

In the middle of the obverse is the word "One Yuan" in the flat Song font, and there is a slightly smaller font of the same font below: "Fold Half and Two", and between the gaps of these words, there is an Arabic numeral "1" running through the coin, which is really a combination of Chinese and Western.

The smaller auxiliary coins are divided into three denominations, namely Wu Jiao, Erjiao and One Jiao, and the reverse pattern of Wu Jiao is much simpler, with only one ancient tripod shape; The second horn is the same, it is a shovel-shaped ancient money pattern; As for the corner, it is simply a bare board, without a pattern.

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