452 Plenary Session (4)
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452 Plenary Session (4)
Seeing that no one took the initiative to respond, the old man's eyes were focused on the military team. To read the latest chapters, please lock in Aishang Novel Network biquge.info Tang Jian and Wang Haiyang are not there, and the only regimental commander among the members of the military group present is to relieve the seat, and Beiwei can also be competent, so the old man directly asked the two of them to express their opinions.
Neither of them advocated sending troops, so they both shook their heads:
"Mobilize two or three regiments, set out from Shandong, land at Ziyingkou, play a surprise attack, and take Shenyang...... If the planning and execution are perfect and nothing goes wrong, and the heaven-given good fortune is on our side, we may be able to do it. It's just that the only thing we can do next is to retreat before we run out of ammunition. That place can be taken, but it will never be defended. β
The dismissal was quite polite, and on the matter, there was nothing good to say about Beiwei, so he only sneered:
"Whoever wants to be tired of living and wants to commit suicide, even if he jumps into the sea, don't expect to drag thousands of soldiers to be buried together. Is it true that the Manchurian soldiers are two fools, and they can't even cut the supply line of more than 180 kilometers on their own territory? β
Although some of the officers of the "Young Zhuang faction" below supported Xiao Lang, they also knew that the plan of "attacking Shenyang" was too unbelievable and completely unfeasible.
Just as he was talking about this, Ling Ning, who had been in charge of naval transportation, also stood up:
"By the way, in order to support this Shandong operation, the Navy has invested the vast majority of its transport forces. Even if the Weihai base is established in the future, the support capacity of the fleet will not increase much -- after all, most of the supplies will still have to be departed from Hainan Island. With the current number of ships, the number of sorties we can guarantee is almost only about one regiment. β
Since the navy said that it could only guarantee one regiment, it was obviously even more impossible to attack Shenyang, and the venue was quiet for the time being. But after a few moments another lad stood up and said:
"It's not realistic to wipe out the Manchurians at once, but it shouldn't be difficult to send troops to attack and harass, and the coastal areas there are very empty. Or occupy the Port of Arthur, the area around Dalian Bay, and build a fortress there, these are all feasible means. β
Pang Yu looked at the young man who had mentioned that he wanted to occupy Lushunkou when they were drinking together the last time, and it seemed that this thought had been hovering in his mind for a day or two.
Last time, I was too lazy to talk to him at the wine table, because what I said was just drunk and drunk, so I only reminded him a little. But now that he has formally proposed it at the plenary meeting, it is necessary to analyze it with some words.
"The means are doable, but what about the ends? What is the purpose of our attack on the Liaodong Peninsula and the opening of a new base at Lushunkou? β
"Yes, of course...... In order to weaken the Manchurian Army, build an outpost there, and at the same time train our soldiers and develop their ability to adapt to the local environment. β
The young man was not stupid, and after only hesitating for a moment, he immediately put forward a few ideas, which could not be said to be unreasonable. It's a pity that these ideas he put forward have been discussed many times within the staff group and have been refuted one by one. So Pang Yu just shook his head slightly:
"Weakening the enemy's forces by means of attack is a tactic used under the premise that it is impossible to win on a frontal battlefield. Similarly, the establishment of outposts requires soldiers to adapt to the local environment...... These means are only means to increase the probability of victory when the assault force is insufficient and it is difficult to solve the opponent at one time. β
"But the dismissal has just said: If we concentrate most of our current armed forces and rush forward at any cost, we can take Shenyang. What is really a headache is the ensuing occupation and security problem - and the means that you have proposed: raiding, building bases, training soldiers, do not solve this fundamental problem - how do we maintain the occupation there? β
Stunned for a moment, the young man straightened his neck and argued:
"No, it is precisely because it is difficult to occupy that I do not advocate attacking Shenyang, but only to carry out some raids and disturbances near the coastline. At the same time, it is not difficult to control the port of Arthur, the southernmost tip of the Liaodong Peninsula, with our maritime supply capacity. β
"And then?"
Pang Yu heard that the other party didn't understand his words, so he smiled and continued to ask questions, which made the young man a little confused:
"And then?"
"Yes, let's say our raid operation is very successful, the Manchurian Army is weakened, and we also succeed in capturing the Port of Arthur and establishing an outpost there, then what next?"
"What's next...... We can build a fortress and ......"
The young man also began to lack confidence, after all, he couldn't think so deeply for a while. However, the staff group has long considered the overall strategy clearly and thoroughly:
"The core content of your mention is nothing more than this: asking us to enter a state of war with the Manchurians. At the same time, a certain military presence was maintained on the Liaodong Peninsula. But as I said to you that day, war can be provoked unilaterally, but it can never be ended unilaterally at its own discretion. It's easy for us to start a war against the Manchurian Houjin, but how to end it in the future, have you thought about it? In other words, after we landed in Liaodong, where the offensive line would end, have you ever imagined? β
As the core personnel of the staff group, and even the chief of staff of the Qiong Navy, Pang Yu has long thought about the future movements of their army, and he is cautious with every step, which is understandable to a group of hot-headed young people.
"War is a continuation of the government, and any strategy is ultimately to serve the goal of the government - we are not capable of destroying the Ming Dynasty at present, so the previous wars with the Ming Empire were all aimed at finally reaching a peace agreement with the Ming Dynasty - everyone knows the difficulties in the meantime...... The European colonizers came from afar and were foreigners in Southeast Asia, so we had no scruples about them, and we fought them whenever we wanted, and expelled them from Taiwan and Luzon. Even if they wanted to retaliate, they would have to come from afar halfway around the world. We have home advantage and we are not afraid of their retaliation...... And the Shandong rebels are located in a remote place, which is a tree without roots, so the bottom line of our war against them is also very clear - to eliminate them. β
"But for the current Houjin Manchuria, everyone knows very well - even if Shenyang is captured, it does not mean the fall of the Houjin, there is not enough population to fill it, and the white mountains and black waters in Liaodong can make them rise again everywhere, and in turn carry out attack tactics against us...... So if we go to war against Manchuria with our current forces, it is doomed to be an unwinnable war - at least not for a short time. Why should we take the initiative to start this kind of war with no results in sight? β
Turning his head and pointing to the large map on the wall, the part of the Liaodong Peninsula, Pang Yu continued to analyze:
"It is indeed easy to throw troops into the Liaodong battlefield and capture the mouth of Arthur - but will the war be stopped because of this? Could it be that Emperor Taiji of Tiancong Khan or his successor, Dorgon, would control the mouth of Lushun in the same way that the Ming Dynasty allowed us to control Hainan Island? I don't think anyone here would dare to think so, right? The price for us to gain control of Hainan Island from the Ming Empire was to accept Zhao'an, at least nominally become a courtier of the Ming Empire. Is anyone willing to keep braids in order to get the Port of Arthur? β¦β¦ I guess no one wants to, and besides, we're still short-haired, and we can't keep it if we want to. β
ββ¦β¦ Since we can't talk about it, then we can only continue to fight, of course, it is easy to defeat them with our weapon superiority, at least in the first few battles. But so so so -- since the strategic conditions do not allow us to continue to attack the interior of Liaodong, we can only passively defend, and the initiative in the battle will be in the hands of the other side! They can choose to play at the most favorable time, retreat after a loss, learn their lessons, improve their equipment, and then continue attacking the next time they are more sure. β
"When it comes to adapting the soldiers and absorbing combat experience, the so-called 'adaptation' is mutual, our soldiers can grow up through guΓ² fighting, won't the Manchurian soldiers on the other side be? We are just gradually adapting to fighting in the cold climate conditions of the north, anyway, in front of the rifle the Manchurians' cavalry and archery skills and the Ming army, the rebels are not much different. But what will the opposing side learn - how to fight troops armed with breech guns and artillery; how to properly use gunpowder in war; If they're lucky, they might even get their hands on a sample of a rifle or grenade...... When we were in Shandong, we won every battle, and every victory inevitably controlled the battlefield, and even then we still lost a few rifles. In Liaodong, this is also a possibility, and it only grows as we spend more time thereβso how long will we stay there? Who can give a specific time limit to the comrades who advocate sending troops? β
Pang Yu looked at the group of young men from the "Young Zhuang faction" who were still advocating sending troops just now, and sure enough, they all fell silent. He sighed - the strategic thinking of these young people had yet to be honed.
"Therefore, no matter how strong the fortress of Lushunkou is, it will not be a good deal for us - this fortress will not be as useful to us as it is to the Manchurians. Under the premise that strategically we cannot attack inland, we must maintain a military presence in Liaodong, which is simply to help the Manchurians train their troops! It's the same with the coastal areas, they are really empty on the coast, because they don't have any major cities there, so what can we do if we are invincible in the coastal areas? It's just a matter of breaking down a few earthen enclosures and exterminating a few slave owners, and it won't have a big impact on them at all......"
"According to you, can't we do anything at all? Occupy the Weihai base, but can only watch the Manchurians on the other side show off their might? β
Xiao Lang sneered and said, probably a little angry. Pang Yu hurriedly shook his head - he didn't want to get into a battle of will with this fanatic:
"Of course not, just ignore it at this stage. At present, our development momentum is very good, as Master Huang and Xiao Wu said just now, as long as we bury our heads in development for a period of time, our industrial and agricultural foundation will be greatly improved. Since time is on our side, there is no point in rushing to provoke a war - let alone a war that cannot be ended in a short time! β
"But some troops were mobilized to launch a limited surprise attack on the Houjin forces in Liaodong...... There's no harm in doing this, right? β
This time, it was Wei Aiwen who also spoke, and Pang Yu smiled helplessly - Xiao Wei is sometimes extremely stubborn and refuses to listen to anything.
ββ¦β¦ On the other side of the river there is a fierce beast that doesn't notice you right now. And you know you can't kill it yet, but you have to stab it with a stick - it doesn't hurt, because the beast can't cross the river. But what's the point? It's just a matter of letting it guard against you from now on. β
"War is not a game, Xiao Wei. When we take soldiers out of their hometowns and send them into battle, we have to have a plausible reason. Just saying, 'There's no harm,' is not a reason for the soldiers to die. β
Wei Aiwen was really stubborn, thought about it and added:
"It can still cause damage to some of their castles and rescue some Han slaves who have been plundered. The Manchurian Army is our enemy, and we should strike at the enemy in every way. β
No matter how clever the eloquence is, there is no way to meet a tendon, Pang Yu shook his head helplessly:
"Weakened...... Damage...... I think many of us may have been too deeply influenced by the military thinking of the first country back then, always thinking about guerrilla tactics, weakening the opponent, and accumulating small victories into big victories...... But we forget that our superiority is exactly the opposite of that of the time - that we have a generational advantage in weapons relative to any army of our time. Therefore, the most suitable tactic for us is not to attack and harass, build fortresses, etc., but to fight as much as possible. Try to attract the enemy's main force together to fight a large-scale battle, and the battle will be decided! β
I was too lazy to bother to say anything, Pang Yu nodded to the map of Liaodong on the wall and made his final summary:
"As for the Manchurian Houjin forces, the establishment of the staff group is: When we are not yet capable of destroying them, it is better not to startle them too early, and let them still be immersed in the so-called 'Jurchen cavalry and shooting invincible' fantasy. And when we have enough strength, we will organize a large army to launch a general attack and directly smash their hearts......"
Fingers turned into fists and slammed on the map, the location of Shenyang:
"Knock them to death with a stick!" ββ
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