Chapter 892: Washington Conference (24)
In the room, a diplomat from one delegation was motioning for a waiter to pour coffee into his cup, while another was leaning forward as if he was listening.
Seriously, Li Liang's two methods just now are actually not very good. As I have just explained, the former option is simply too expensive. After all, it was a complete overthrow of a country, and if such a thing had been put on hold ten years ago, it might not have been a problem for the countries present to unite once. But now, the cost is simply too high, even so high that the countries present are already somewhat unaffordable.
The most important point is that as mentioned earlier, the current anti-war situation in various countries is relatively intense, and at this time, jumping out to say that there will be another war to destroy the country, it is conceivable whether the people of various countries will agreeββββββ obviously, it is absolutely impossible to agree.
Therefore, such a thing, no matter which country it is on, is very stressful.
Agreeing to such a thing, no matter who it is, it will be very stressful.
As for the second method, this seems to be more operational, but first of all, the effect is too poor. The only way to block it is by land, but there is little that can be done by water, after all, the Dardanelles is under the control of the Turks.
Moreover, both Soviet Russia and Turkey belong to the Black Sea countries, and the two countries can reach exchanges within the Black Sea.
To put it simply, it's useless to block one end, at least the other side.
What's more, there is another point, Li Liang has already said it very clearly just now. If it does. Then in the future, the Nationalist government in the Caucasus and Soviet Russia may have a long time to use to argue. If that were the case, then the pressure on the government would be understandable, and therefore the government would not need anything else. All you need is some cash or something...
If it was only a part of the cash support, of course, it would be nothing, and it would be difficult for countries now, but it would be fine. However, it is clear that now that the Communist government has opened its mouth, they will need more than just a little cash.
And this is obviously a little unacceptable for countries that are shy in their pockets.
Of course, more importantly. No one knows exactly how much time this support will take...
If it's just for a while, of course there's not much of a problem. But if it takes a long time, the problem is bigger.
Don't say anything else. If the Commune government demanded that countries always provide financial support for the defense line in the Caucasus, would the governments not be able to agree? Undoubtedly, apparently impossible ...
After all, in that case, this will become a big hole that will not be filled in 10,000 years.
Even after silently thinking about it in the bottom of my heart. Delegates felt that this was the case. The cost may be even higher than directly sending troops to destroy Soviet Russia.
It is also for this reason that they pay so much attention to the third method in Li Liang's mouth. It's just that no one obviously thought that the method proposed by Li Liang would be this.
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"Bring the Turks over?"
Hearing Li Liang say this, Balfour on the side asked in a puzzled tone, and while asking, Balfour put the coffee in his hand on the table.
"What do you mean?"
The British have a say in this matter. Not surprisingly, after all, the British have great interests in this region. Americans, on the other hand. Despite its strength, it can be called a superpower of this era. However, there is basically no interest in this regionββββββ which is very different from that of later generations, and you must know that in the Middle East and Near East in later generations, the greatest interests are the Americans.
Even later China and other countries did not have as much interest in this area as the Americans.
As for North Africa, that is, on the Libyan side, it may be somewhat unexpected. Although on the surface it seems that the most domineering people there are the Americans, in fact it is the French who have the greatest interest in North Africa.
Of course, this refers to later generations, North Africa has always been the traditional sphere of influence of the French, and the most powerful there are the French. In a way, a considerable part of North Africa can be said to be under the control of the French. It can even be said that one-third of the entire African region was under the control of the Frenchββββββ but Libya during this period actually belonged to the Italians, but later the Italians participated in the Second World War, and as a result, although they temporarily jumped camps, the Italians still paid a lot.
But in a way, it's also the Italian who are smarter.
For example, in the First World War, just before the war, there was a sudden change of camp, and as a result, it turned out to be a defeated country to a victorious country.
In World War II, when his country was about to be defeated, he changed sides again, and became the victorious country againββββββ although it was only half.
It can also be seen from this how cunning the Italians really are...
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Hearing Balfour ask, Li Liang smiled slightly and said. "What I mean is actually very simple, since Soviet Russia can win over the Turks, then of course we can also win over the Turks in turn."
"But..."
Seeing Balfour's hesitant appearance, Li Liang interrupted him. "I know what you want to say, but we have to admit that Turkey is still important to us at the moment. Especially in the current situation, if we do not take some more actions, it is basically impossible to avoid the possibility of Turkey being co-opted by Soviet Russia. And sending troops directly to Turkey, as I said earlier, is obviously not supported by the countries here. β
"Since we can't destroy each other from physical to mental, why don't we just do it another way..."
"What do we need to pay for bringing the Turks over? It's just promises. It's just a matter of reducing the losses of the Turks and the benefits we may gain, but we can get an ally. One could intercept the allies of Soviet Russia from the other direction. β
"With this ally, we can completely contain Soviet Russia in Eastern Europe. But on the other hand, if we continue to persecute the Turks now, we will have to force the Turks to the side of the Russians in the end, which is extremely disadvantageous to us, because it means that there is a big hole in the encirclement, and in case the Turks are also thrown into the camp of the Russians..."Having said this. Li Liang said in an almost categorical tone. "This is a huge failure for us!"
In fact, Li Liang himself knows one thing very well in his heart, that is, things are not as evil as he said at all. Because according to the judgment of the national government, especially Yan Shao's think tank. The Turks are Jedi and will not fall into the arms of Soviet Russia.
There's only one reason...
The Turks are almost religious, and what is the difference between throwing them into the camp of Soviet Russia and directly killing them all?
At least for those Turks, it is absolutely impossible to get them to renounce their faith and throw themselves into the arms of Soviet Russia!
Even for Soviet Russia, which had no faith at all. The Turks are probably resisting and even hating from the bottom of their hearts. It's just because of the current environment in Turkey that it has to come into contact with Soviet Russia.
But...
As long as the Turks feel that Soviet Russia has no use value, then I believe that with only a blink of an eye, the Turks will completely abandon the ββββββ religion of Soviet Russia, even in later generations, it will be very demagogic, especially in the Middle East, almost all of them are crazy.
That is still in the Hereafter. It was a time when religious belief was relatively liberal and atheism was also rampant. This was still the case in those days. What's more, in this era that is still very ignorant, you must know that even in the United States in later generations, there are many people who are still teaching students that the so-called world was created by God, and the whole world is only a few thousand years old, and so on...
It can be seen from this that in any case the Turks could not really want to cooperate with Soviet Russia.
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After listening to Li Liang's remarks, almost everyone present fell silent, and then thought carefully about what Li Liang had just said.
I have to admit that what Li Liang said just now is indeed very reasonable.
"Indeed...", Balfour had to nod his head and admit Li Liang's judgment. According to what Mr. Prime Minister said, we can indeed solve the problems that are happening in Turkey at a relatively small cost, and we can even join forces with Turkey to encircle Soviet Russia in the existing position and jointly build an epidemic prevention circle specifically for Soviet Russia. β
"And in the process, all we have to pay is some of the benefits that we were intended to get from the Turks," added the representative of the French government, who was standing on the sidelines. Personally, however, I think that if the Turks can join the alliance, then even the benefits of this part seem to be nothing..."
"The most important thing is that the Turks can't pose any threat to the countries at all, let them go, the interests of the countries here will not be too much loss, and there is no need to worry about a strong Turkey will compete with the countries here, correspondingly, a slight concession can be exchanged for an important ally, why not?"
"And the most important thing is that, judging from the current situation of the Turks, I am afraid that I am also uneasy in my heart, if it were not for this reason, I believe that the Turks would not be able to unite with Soviet Russia at all, and if we take the initiative to extend an olive branch to the Turks at this time, I believe that the Turks will surely wake up and devote themselves very happily to the truth on our side."
"In this way, with the blockade of all the countries present here in Europe, as well as the blockade of the Turks and our country in Asia, there is no need to worry about the spread of Soviet Russia for many years to come. Even if Soviet Russia really intends to make a breakthrough in the direction of the weaker one, that is, Turkey, in the future, our country can fully support the Turks to a certain extentββββββ several provinces of our country in the Middle East are located in the south of the Caucasus, that is, below the Caucasus on the map. Moreover, the Iraqi provinces are also bordering Turkish territory, which is very convenient to support, whether it is weapons and equipment or direct military support. It is even possible for our country to transfer to the Turkish government some of the ships that are currently being decommissioned and that are about to be dismantled under the treaty, and help the Turkish government to block the Dardanelles..."
Give?
In fact, this is completely a favor~
The reason is also very simple, anyway, those warships have been used for many years and are behind the times. It's time to dismantle the old warship. Then it's perfectly okay to give it to others~
To be exact, it is a completely unfortunate thing, otherwise there would be only one fate left for those warships. That would be to dismantle it into scrap metal, but would that be beneficial to the national government? Not necessarily, I'm afraid
After all, there may not be too much drill bit in the business of dismantling warshipsββββββ of course, there must still be some profits...
But that's just money. And it's not necessarily enough.
But what if you give away a warship?
Know that the present and the future are different. In this day and age, weak and small countries abound. Also in this day and age, it is a sin to urinate weakly on a large distance.
It is for this reason that the countries of this era attach more importance to armaments.
Leaving aside the arms race in Europe, as well as the Great White Fleet built by the United States and the huge shipbuilding program during World War Iββββββ this Great White Fleet is not a big white scrape on the wall.
Speaking of the arms race in South America in the early years, Brazil, Argentina, and Chile were three countries. In later generations, there was basically nothing famous except football, let alone any special products, and the strongest of them was Brazil. But in the eyes of the world, it is just an ordinary second-rate country, at most it is stronger than an ordinary second-rate country.
But in some of the world's rankings. The country has never been in the top 10.
Especially when it comes to ranking the military capabilities of some countries, this country has always been in a state of neglect...
However, it is such a country that in later generations has an aircraft carrier that even many countries do not have. In this era, in order to compete with its neighbors in South America, some battleships were purchased from the British, and even the famous multi-turret god relics of later generations were built by the British at the behest of the Brazilians.
In addition, there is Japan, and the pressure on the Japanese side for the ordinary Japanese people is almost a bit perverted. However, the Japanese government has never stopped this practice, and one of the biggest reasons for this is undoubtedly because the Japanese government attaches great importance to armaments.
It is obviously a very financially strapped country, but the Japanese government also has a very large armament program. Even in the case of its own finances, which are far inferior to those of Britain and the United States, Japan itself maintains a very large, almost world-third strongest navy...
Finally, there is Turkey, the protagonist of this time, which was such a country that also bought two battleships from Britain during the First World War. One of them was the multi-turret Cult Relic that had to be put up for sale due to the financial crisis and, most importantly, the depreciation of rubber at the time...
In order to buy this battleship, even the Turkish elementary school monks donated money to the government, and it is conceivable that the country wants to expand its armamentsββββββ and it is precisely because of this that the Turks will appear so angry and annoyed when the British unconditionally seized the Turkish battleship under some nonsensical pretext...
In the end, it even turned out to be an incentive for the Turks to join the war...
Of course, in the end, the fate of the Turks was obviously more miserable, the whole country was basically dismembered, and in the end there was only a small piece of land left to make a fortuneββββββ no, it should be said that it was much bigger than that, because in fact, the place where the Turks really made their fortune was not much bigger than Hong Kong or Singapore.
It's not surprising, since it's a fortune, then the territory is really not too big.
By the way, the so-called Great White Fleet, as just said, naturally cannot be a big white scraped on the walls. The Great White Fleet is a common nickname for a combat fleet in the history of the U.S. Navy. During the period from December 16, 907 to February 22, 1909, the Great White Fleet was carried out under the command of President Theodore Brown. Roosevelt's order. Completed the round-the-world voyage.
The Great White Fleet was divided into two squadrons, consisting of 16 battleships, as well as various escort ships. [1] [2] Roosevelt wanted to use the guΓ² fleet to demonstrate the rapidly growing military power of the United States and the strength of the American blue-water navy. Driven by a desire to strengthen the enforcement of international treaties and protect overseas holdings, the U.S. Congress allocated funds to build U.S. maritime power. This naval unit started with only 90 small ships. More than a third of them consisted of wooden ships, but it quickly grew into a fleet that included new, modern steel combat ships. As for why this fleet is called the Great White Fleet, it is because the hulls of these ships are all painted white, hence the name "Great White Fleet".
Of course, in terms of the size of the fleet, the Great White Fleet is undoubtedly very strong, and the entire fleet can also be said to be completely based on the powerful industry of the United States. But on the other hand. With the birth of the British 'dreadnought', it can be said that not long after its birth, the Americans' Great White Fleet has been completely outdated.
But despite this in the face of the 'cannon' revolution caused by the battleship Dreadnought. The lead ships of the Great White Fleet are outdated, but provide enough information about their behavior at sea to affect future construction. For example, in terms of seaworthiness, outside the calmest sea areas. All capital ships of the fleet will be flooded. This guide zhì subsequent American battleships had their bows cambered, freeboard increased, and spray measures reduced to eliminate anchors and protruding gun mounts.
There is no doubt that this information is one of an extremely important kind...
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Unlike later generations, if the needs of later countries for armaments have been relatively rational, then in such a chaotic era, strong armaments are the needs of no country. Especially in the event that such a casual possibility of a large-scale war. This is especially true of this.
It was like the Cold War period in later generations, because of the arms race between the United States and the Soviet Union. As a result, Soviet Russia was dragged down by the United Statesββββββ economically.
This is also why Yan Shao agreed with the relationship between the Washington Naval Treaty, and although he looked crazy when expanding his armaments, no matter how great the financial pressure was, he did not think of solving the problem by drinking doves to quench his thirst by opening a knife to those enterprises that had already formed in China.
After all, the current domestic economic development is really healthy, and the best way for Yan Shao is to let them develop more healthily. As for the rest, wait until the domestic economic development reaches a similar level to that of Britain and the United States.
But even at that time, it is difficult to say whether Yan Shao will go under the knife.
After all, the present is different from the ancient dynasties in the past, which were perennial natural and man-made disasters in ancient times, and these disasters could not be solved with the technology and productivity at that time. As a result, there are often peasant uprisings or something, and the imperial court must need money to suppress these things.
In addition, there are some large-scale projects such as canals, and the maintenance of some facilities every year also requires a very large amount of expenses, in addition to military expenditures, which occupy a considerable part of the total, it is almost impossible not to oppress the common peopleββββββ not to mention that in addition, it is necessary to feed the corrupt officials all over the country.
But Yan Shao's side is different, although some natural and man-made disasters and the like almost never stop. But those things, such as the lack of food, can be transported from all parts of the country by various other means, such as railways, and at the same time, thanks to the modern system, Yan Shao and the Guoshe government basically don't have to worry about things like peasant uprisings...
Even if the whole of China suffers a natural disaster, there is no need to rush at allββββββ well, it is impossible not to hurry.
However, compared with ancient times, the national government obviously has more ways to deal with it, that is, it can purchase from abroad to alleviate the problems faced at home.
All in all, basically the cost of the national government is indeed very large, but it is not as tight as in ancient times, and it is not as strict as Japan's masochistic tendency, and the current national government may be financially tight, but it is definitely not to the point where it is necessary to open some private enterprises and ordinary people in the private sectorββββββ not to mention that the most money spent in the government is actually some engineering projects, and not all of these projects are necessary. Something could have been stopped for a while...
In other words, if the government feels that its finances are struggling, it can stop these projects for the time being. You know, these projects account for a significant portion of government spending. As long as this part is suspended, then the finances of the national government will be very large at once, of course, the national government will never do this if there is no need, after all, these facilities usually have a great effect on the domestic economic construction, light yì can not be stopped, not to mention in the past years, the national government has never encountered the need to suspend domestic projects...
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Anyway. Now China is already a great power, and it does not look very closely at the weapons and equipment that have been completely outdated.
But in this day and age, it is undoubtedly more difficult to survive. Of course, there is no problem with China, after all, China is no longer the bear-like of the pre-Qing Dynasty. Even if something happens, at least self-preservation is absolutely fine.
But compared to China, there are many countries in the world that are not in a particularly good situation. These countries are also basically small countries...
Thereupon. It will happen that countries like Brazil are constantly buying new battleships. There is also a situation where Turkey wants to buy warships by smashing pots and selling iron. Naturally, there are also cases in Japan where the daughter-in-law becomes a mother-in-law.
But there is no doubt that since they are not the kind of super-first-class powers, the finances of these countries are also relatively worrying. At least one thing is certain: with the economies of these countries, it is basically impossible to build on their own. And if you want to buy through guΓ², it seems that the pressure is too great for these countries...
So this time. Buying a second-hand warship is undoubtedly a good option.
So, here's the problem.
That is, in recent history. Is there ever such a thing as a gift of warships?
Theoretically, there were, for example, during the outbreak of the First World War, because the hope of returning home was largely cut off. Eventually, Austria-Hungary gifted a cruiser stationed at the Qingdao Fortress, along with some small warships that the Germans had at that time in the Qingdao Fortress, to the Wehrmacht Navy.
But after all, it was a situation that only happened in extraordinary times, and it certainly didn't happen in ordinary times.
So if the government really plans to give something, it is likely to be the first time in the world. At least for the first time in an ordinary stateββββββ after all, even the British at the beginning asked for half the price when they returned the battleships they had purchased from several countries in South America.
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Although China has become a great power, it is actually far behind Britain and France in the international community. You don't need to look at anything else, you just need to look at the difference in territory between China and countries such as Britain and France.
You must know that the overseas colonies of the British can be said to be almost all over the world, and although the French are slightly worse, they still have a lot of colonies in a considerable part of the world.
But what about China? Today's China is now a bare-bones commander.
And there is no doubt that if you want to be a strong country, a big country, a respectable country, then you must have some support to save zΓ i.
In the past, it was called a vassal state, but in this day it was called a colony...
Of course, the Nationalist government obviously has no way to compete with people in the colonies, so it can only really find some countries that can help some people, that is, some useful allies.
France is naturally one of the choices, after all, the relationship between the national government and the French is still very close. But another problem also arises, that is, first of all, although the relationship between the national government and the French is close, the French are also one of the great powers in the world, and the interests of the national government are unlikely to coincide with the national government in many things.
Therefore, it is difficult to say whether there will be a fall out between the two countries at some point in the futureββββββ from a certain point of view, the possibility of such a situation is definitely not small.
After all, France is also a great power no matter what. Unless, like Hitler during World War II. Turning the whole of France into a puppet, becoming something to maintain France or something, otherwise the French would never have been able to obey China's words.
And because of this. Yan Shao mainly aimed at those players who had a little strength, could play a role after a short period of training, and also had further cultivation value.
For example, Turkey or Iran or something like that...
Not long ago, the government of the Nationalist Republic of China presented some warships to the Iranian government, and although they can only be regarded as second-hand warships, they also make the Iranians happy. Because even these warships can only be regarded as scrap metal for a country like China. But for the Iranian government, there are other governments. But it still belongs to the treasure levelββββββ which is probably the difference in values, which is like comparing a millionaire with an ordinary person.
For a millionaire, 10,000 dollars may be just what he spends for a day.
But for an ordinary person. This 10,000 yuan may be all the money he can earn in his lifeββββββ which refers to the monetary unit of this era.
10,000 yuan, to be honest, is not a small amount even for ordinary symbols, but it is obvious. For ordinary people, there will only be more.
After all, the military of this era. The military salary is only 10 yuan a month, 120 yuan a year, 1,200 yuan for 10 years, and 12,000 yuan for a hundred years. 10,000 yuan is basically equivalent to the income of an ordinary soldier for more than 80 years. But there is no doubt that there will never be anyone who has been a soldier for more than 80 years. It's like a person's salary hasn't risen in more than 80 years...
For the national government, these are basically things that should have been retired from the Wehrmacht. Basically, there is not much value anymore. But these things are precious to ordinary countries, otherwise Iranians would not be so rare. So...
If you use these things to hook up with other countries, what will be the effect?
Maybe it's going to be great...
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The so-called collusion of the national government is actually very simple, it is to find a way to use the excuse of guΓ² support to donate the weapons and equipment equipped by its own country to these countries mentioned above, such as Iran, Turkey, etc., which have some potential.
Basically, after seeing the donated equipment, these countries will naturally have a certain favorable impression of China, which is undoubtedly very good for the plan of the national government.
After all, for the national government, as long as it has these favorites, then it can do more things in the future, and when the favorability is cultivated to a certain level, it can even directly become an alliance.
In this way, there is naturally a helper...
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It can be said that the potential allies that Yan Shao chose are basically the ones that are very useful.
For example, Thailand is basically the strongest country in Southeast Asia, right? At least this is definitely the case in this eraββββββ because in this period of Southeast Asia, apart from China, there is only one independent country left.
And if you have the help of the Thai government, you will definitely be of great help to the actions of the national government in Southeast Asia.
In addition to this, Iran also counts as one.
Although Iran's strength is slightly inferior, with Iran's existence, the Persian Gulf can be completely controlled by the national government.
There is no doubt that the importance of the Persian Gulf is clear to absolutely everyone.
Then there is the unique location of Iran, a country right next to India. And India is like meat to the British...
Basically, as long as they choose to attack India, even if the British have a big temper, it is useless. So if China and Britain turn the other cheek, they can flank India with the Iranian army, and if necessary, even let the Iranian army go with it.
In addition, Iran is located in the Indian Ocean, and it would be more or less useful for the Communist government to select two naval bases there.
As for Turkey, on the one hand, if the national government attacked Turkey, it would mean that the national government would also step into the Mediterranean. In addition, through GuΓ² Turkey, it is also possible to control the Dardanelles, especially the somewhat troublesome Soviet Russia.
After all, the Nationalist government was still unusually wary of Soviet Russia...
And with the help of the Turks, if you deal with Soviet Russia, I dare not say that it is foolproof, but at least the problem is not very big.
In addition to Thailand, Iran and Turkey, the government has chosen countries such as Brazil and Argentina in South America. Although the strength of these countries is slightly inferior, it is still enough compared to Thailand and other countries, especially Brazil, Argentina and Chile, although some of the battleships have been sold to Yan Shao.
However, when they first purchased warships from Europe, these countries did not just buy battleships in Europe and the United States, but some ordinary ships were also completely stored. For example, ordinary destroyers, cruisers, heavy cruisers, etc...
With these, countries such as Brazil can barely be called one of the great powers, and they have stepped into the ranks of powerful countries.
Of course, there are also some operational details. For example, Turkey, if it is given to Iranians or Thais, these two countries can be said to be poor from a certain point of view, and at the same time, they have basically not seen any good things. Then after seeing the second-hand weapons and equipment given to them by the national government, it is almost inevitable to be happy.
But what about Turkey, Turkey and Iranians and Thais are different.
You must know that in any case, they are also the closest countries to Europe, and they must be more convenient than these two countries in terms of communication, and they can be regarded as one of the more extensive ones.
What's more, it can be said that at that time, people also maintained a very large navy, at least in the world at that time, in addition to countries like Britain and the United States, well, there were also navies like Japan and France, and the navy of the Turks was already very good.
You know, the relics of the Multi-Turret Cult were all made by the Argentines, although they were built in the UK...
It is precisely because of this that the Turks can be said to have seen the world. In such a country, a small gunboat or cruiser, which is common every year, is basically difficult to get into the eyes of the Turks.
How to say, even if it is completely ruined, even if there are few large warships left in their own country, some of which are even sunk in Turkish seaports. But unlike other people, after all, the Turks are also the kind that raises the flag and has a high vision, and it is absolutely impossible for an ordinary warship to make the seedlings react like this...
Therefore, under normal circumstances, you must use a more ruthless guy.
Fortunately, the current Turks are completely downcast, and the kind of attention that was there has basically disappeared without a trace.
It is also because of this that ordinary things are still eyed by Turks, and if it were not for this, I am afraid that the national government, especially Yan Shao's think tank, would not have proposed such a approach.
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Of course, there is a problem with this, and that is that according to the Washington Treaty, unless the content is unanimously obtained at the conference, he would never have returned to China, but now...
To put it simply, unless it was already agreed at the meeting, those additional warships would have to be dismantled, and if it weren't for that, the British wouldn't have needed to dismantle a large number of warships... (To be continued......)